| Intranet vs. Internet Public Knowledge seems to not understand why Comcast's own content doesn't have caps even though caps really don't fix the undersupported infrastructure of Comcast's Internet lines. |
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| THERE IS NO REASON FOR THESE CAPS
they have 8 downstream chanenls |
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| Last I checked Comcast subscribers didn't subscribe to the "Comcast Intranet" package. Please send me a link to where that exists.
How do television only subscribers get access to this content? Through your imagined Comcast Intranet right? No.... wait.... they have to be subscribed to INTERNET service.
Looks like you don't get it. |
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Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | Good I hope they win this, caps are stupid and just a money grab from people who want alternatives from TV tiers, it's another way of saying "You're going to pay me for TV if you watch it from me or not" /sigh we'll see what the future has to bring.
Matt
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Re: Intranet vs. Internet The Xfinity on demand pay per view content already exists on network as the content doesn't exist on outside of the Comcast's internal network (aka the Internet). Think of it like a large Local Area Connection.
I'm heavily against caps as I already said before they don't solve Internet congestion. I just find it a poor argument to argue on this. If Netflix has its content within Comcast's internal network, then there's a problem.
Content hoarding and licensing will be a large problem to solve. If only competition existed to force companies to improve their infrastructure... |
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Re: Good Comcast has the most money. and this group just needs more $$$ to support their "interests". And Comcast defines their network in their TOS. |
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LinkP
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San Jose, CA | Olympics coverage too Seems to me that NBC's requirement that one subscribe to a cable/sat service to view the streaming Olympics coverage is also an example of the negative effects of the NBC/Comcast merger, as it leaves broadcast viewers out in the cold. |
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| This Might Be the Least of COMCASTs Problems There is indication that some of their infrastructure is having problems and being replaced. This cannot help the bottom line. Rumor is that some of the recent digital cable system components are being replaced prematurely. Specific comment was "traps being replaced with Motorola units by independent contractor." Have any of you heard of similar discussion? |
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 RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03
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kudos:2 | Yawn When was the last time that cable followed through on ANY regulatory promise? |
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mmay149qPremium
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kudos:48 | reply to 25139889
Re: Good said by 25139889:Comcast has the most money. and this group just needs more $$$ to support their "interests". And Comcast defines their network in their TOS.
That doesn't mean there can't be a victory here, I'll admit that money wins lawsuits 90% of the time, however really all of this is just proving how anti-competitive caps are, or at least caps under 500GB a month. Now yes I know, most people don't even reach 250GB, however if they don't have the opportunity to try, then how will they ever know? And with ever expanding video options on line, really the caps will have to be modified eventually, especially when we'll be able to stream Blu-Ray quality movies straight to our PC.
Matt
P.S. this isn't meant to sound like an argument, just the flip side of the coin 
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kudos:1 | This could go the wrong way.... Comcast: "Fine, then we'll just charge for all video services the same way. Comcast/NBC streams are henceforth INCLUDED in the cap."
Ouch. Unintended result.
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| Comcast and the other cable companies Pay the FCC good money to allow them to ignore rules and agreements. The FCC will ignore the complaint from Public Knowledge. |
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Re: Intranet vs. Internet I thought that the last mile is where all of the congestion occurs and that is why caps are necessary? Isn't the last mile a part of Comcast's internal network? |
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Camden, TN | illogical thinking OK I get that people want NO caps whatsoever but Comcast CAN do that. That being the case having Comcast exempt their own stuff is actually better than having to count their own stuff. If they have to count their own stuff people will hit their caps faster and are more likely to incur overages. Which means people are MORE likely to drop things like Netflix which I'm sure is the exact opposite of what Netflix wants. If they think by forcing Comcast to count it's own stuff that they'll just drop the caps or raise then well that's just naïve thinking. Some people want to cut their nose to spite their face. |
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| I find this a very strange argument So let's see. You WANT Comcast to impose caps and overage fees on THEIR OWN CONTENT delivered and managed on THEIR OWN LOCAL NETWORK? Just because it happens to be delivered in IP packets as opposed to proprietary protocols? WTF????
several things wrong with this:
(a) just because it's IP doesn't mean it's Internet
(b) why would you, a putatively "consumer-protecting" organization, call for Comcast to charge its customers MORE for the SAME CONTENT, because of some principle?
(c) -- (a) and (b) together indicate that only an idiot, or someone with a hidden agenda, would make this argument.
So, assuming they are not idiots, what's the hidden agenda?
CAPS R BAD, M'K?? -- there it is in a nutshell |
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Re: illogical thinking I vote with my wallet so I would drop comcast, I know what is said next about other choices not available. But as soon as comcast pulls this more often, other companies will emerge. |
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said by BF69:OK I get that people want NO caps whatsoever but Comcast CAN do that. That being the case having Comcast exempt their own stuff is actually better than having to count their own stuff. If they have to count their own stuff people will hit their caps faster and are more likely to incur overages. Which means people are MORE likely to drop things like Netflix which I'm sure is the exact opposite of what Netflix wants. If they think by forcing Comcast to count it's own stuff that they'll just drop the caps or raise then well that's just naïve thinking. Some people want to cut their nose to spite their face.
And some people will say anything, as long as they get paid............. |
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Re: I find this a very strange argument Well, the truth is there is no need for caps, other then protecting old revenue streams. I have said it many times before, "In reality the cost of a GB actually gets cheaper all the time. Internet service can be provided profitably for pennies per gigabyte in the absolute worst case scenario." |
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | reply to MyDogHsFleas
said by MyDogHsFleas:(b) why would you, a putatively "consumer-protecting" organization, call for Comcast to charge its customers MORE for the SAME CONTENT, because of some principle?
So, assuming they are not idiots, what's the hidden agenda?
Without reading what Public Knowledge has said, I'm guessing that the hidden agenda is that customers using Amazon (costs extra), Netflix (costs extra), Roku (costs extra) or other services that compete with StreamPix (costs extra) have to pay the Comcast overages or deal with the cap restrictions. StreamPix customers don't have to deal with the fees/restrictions.
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Re: Olympics coverage too said by LinkP:Seems to me that NBC's requirement that one subscribe to a cable/sat service to view the streaming Olympics coverage [...]
There is no such REQUIREMENT.
Anyone can view it. Pick any provider from the list, enter a dummy address such as hfdsfjhgsdj@jhdfdhfghjdsfjhdsgfhjds.com to get your pass and watch freely... |
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