 hello123454Delaware FIOSPremium
join:2002-02-02
Wilmington, DE
kudos:1 | I don't get it.... Comcast's 300 Mbps won't equal Verizon's 300 Mbps....
Both companies are going back and forth on numbers when in reality Verizon has much more leverage with how their network is setup.... |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
 ·KCH Cable
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| nice Wish I could get even 25Mbps via my little cable co.
Going from 25 to 50 is very nice.
...only problem is that now a cap means you get even less TIME available to use your connection per day (at full speed). From another perspective, it could also save time by downloading larger files in less time.
Funny side-story. The installer for my cable said "you got the 10Mbps plan, why would you ever want more than that?" - to which I replied, "because I do.. and if you ever get it, let me know."
Silly small town cable company, with no website... In some respects, at least Comcast is fairly consistent with their company, and what they offer in most areas. |
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Xfinity Platinum Internet comes with a bundle of services » www.marketwatch.com/story/comcas···12-07-24Xfinity Platinum Internet offers the most-advanced digital homes download speeds of up to 305 Mbps and upload speeds of up to 65 Mbps. These customers will also receive at no additional charge: Xfinity Signature Support (a $9.95/month value), providing customers 24/7 tech support from experienced and knowledgeable specialists; a wireless gateway to create a fast, efficient and secure home network; a dedicated Personal Communications Consultant to support their high-speed Internet needs; and the Constant Guard(TM) Security Suite, the most comprehensive online protection services available from any major ISP. Sounds like the kind of service a business gets with a SLA. I'll bet the price for this is pretty high. --
»www.mittromney.com/s/repeal-and-···bamacare
»www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care |
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 Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA
·Comcast
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·Comcast Digital ..
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Re: I don't get it.... said by hello123454:Comcast's 300 Mbps won't equal Verizon's 300 Mbps....
Both companies are going back and forth on numbers when in reality Verizon has much more leverage with how their network is setup....
Oh? You don't think each 300 the companies put out will match? Do you have FiOS with the 300 speed and can test it out and post some screenshots? |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
1 edit | Where's my double scoop? Their BIG LIST of markets, shows how limited, this is, so far.
I want to know when those of us west of PA will be treated like citizens.
Send a few upgrades out west and quit playing such a verizon centric expandsion game. |
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | reply to hello123454
Re: I don't get it.... said by hello123454:Comcast's 300 Mbps won't equal Verizon's 300 Mbps....
Both companies are going back and forth on numbers when in reality Verizon has much more leverage with how their network is setup....
Correct... Comcast's plan is 5 Mbps faster. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | I kinda wish Verizon would just bump the provisioning on its tier to 306 Mbps...just to tick off Comcast. Two can play at the one-upmanship game. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | reply to Linklist
Re: Xfinity Platinum Internet comes with a bundle of services That's been my thought is that 305 is a showpiece, but won't be practical/affordable for many.
The bumps for lower tiers are actually going to draw more customers and be a higher revenue source overall. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
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Wireless gateway is included on all tiers at or above Blast, for new customers anyway.
Constant Guard? Included with all of Comcast's plans. Yes, it's a free copy of Norton 360 for everyone on the connection, but you don't need to pay for that stuff anyway.
As for Signature Support, that isn't an SLA. It's just a somewhat-guarantee that you won't have to be transferred five times before speaking to someone competent on the phone (though of late I've had decent experiences with Comcast phone techs). |
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Re: I don't get it.... While I don't have the 300Mbit plan I do have the 150, and there is no way Concast is going to match the 70Mbit upload speed with there existing setup, they also wont be able to get the low pings that FiOS can achieve due to the overhead in docsis networks. Lastly, what good is 300Mbit on Concast when they purposely oversubscribe there backbone links to over half the internet causing 500ms+ pings during peak hours.
* Speedtest's flash program cant handle the upload speeds, its a known bug that they have fixed but the people running the test sites haven't bothered to upgrade yet. |
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Re: Where's my double scoop? You won't be included. In anything.
That's why Comcast and Verizon are colluding, these are the only places left without monopolies.
These are the only places we're going to pretend to have a competitive marketplace. |
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| Upload Wow, I'm really surprised they confirmed they are doing 65mbps on the upstream. They are really going to be pushing it close to offer that kind of speed given the small amount of spectrum that is available for upstream. (5-42mhz) If my math was correct isn't not unreasonable to estimate upstream for the entire node as ~125mbps (5 6mhz 64QAM channels) plus a few other legacy channels available for older modems. Perhaps they might also be testing out 256QAM or another solution for upstream in those markets....
Downstream shouldn't be an issue as they should have a ton of available channels from the digital transition. |
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| What modem will they use? I am curious what modem they will use to deliver these speeds? I know the SB6121 only supports channel bonding up to 160 mbps down and 120 up. Does comcast plan to duck tape two of these bad boys together or is there a newer model?
Thanks! |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| That upload channel... I'm very surprised that Comcast is launching with the sameupload speeds as FiOS, considering that I haven't yet seen a cable system in the US that has more than three upstreams available to bond, one of which is at a lower modulation on a smaller channel width versus the others. The result: around 70 Mbps of upload capacity, for that entire branch of the cable system. As a result, it's almost undoubtedly more expensive for Comcast to serve up this tier than for Verizon (who, by the way, could up their speeds tomorrow to 400/100 and put Comcast back at square one), since they're dedicating eight donwstream channels (38 x 8 = 304) and nearly three upstream channels to one customer.
I'm curious about the upload speeds on the lower-end packages after the speed doubling. Will they hit 15 and 20 Mbps up, respectively (so basically taking over the old higher residential tiers) or will they be lower?
One thing's for sure: Comcast will have to have the most advanced cable plant in the U.S. in order to pull this tier off...compared to what's now old news on the FTTH front (GPON). |
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
·Comcast
 ·Verizon Broadban..
| Just noticed upstream channel bonding I came home from vacation and noticed that I had upstream channel bonding on my modem. This is in Springfield, MA (which is nowhere near FiOS turf but was one of the first Comcast markets upgraded to D3). Maybe the upgrades are just around the corner. The 30/5 tier is fine for my needs (Twitterbook, YouTube, light gaming, DSLR, Online Newspapers, E-Mail, online banking, and various other things) but I'll gladly take the 50/15 upgrade. |
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Re: What modem will they use? I'm guessing the wireless gateway will be one of their Arris modems that offer 8 channel downstream and 4 channel upstream bonding - more then enough for 300mbps. |
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Any of the other 8x4 modems they already have or the 24x8 devices coming from Intel Puma6 thing or whatever? Current 8x4 modems can do 343/100Mbps max theoretical. Getting 300Mbps should be more than possible in production then. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
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Re: That upload channel... Just read over in the forums that Blast is getting 50 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up, sustained. So a bit of a downgrade (in some cases anyway, depending on your area) from Extreme 50 (I love me some 15 Mbps uploads), however it's on the order of $45 cheaper per month, so honestly 10 Mbps uploads instead of 15 are reasonable. Particularly since Comcast has to have /some/ reason to upsell folks to Extreme post-upgrade, what with the big price delta and all (not that there wasn't a huge price delta between 50/15 and 105/20 before).
On the other hand, Extreme 50 is getting pushed to the full 105/20 that was Extreme 105. Not a huge upload boost to be honest, but it sounds like folks are getting above-advertised speeds on the tier anyway so it's still a nice upgrade.
If I was in an area that had these tier upgrades in effect, I'm honestly not sure which path I'd take. Even 50 Mbps on the downstream is more than enough for me. However I like fast uploads, so the conundrum would be whether to still pay $115 per month and get another 5 Mbps of upload speed, or pay $70 and drop 5 Mbps. |
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 djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:1
·VOIPo
·Verizon Wireless..
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T U-Verse
| reply to flashcore
Re: I don't get it.... said by flashcore:While I don't have the 300Mbit plan I do have the 150, and there is no way Concast is going to match the 70Mbit upload speed with there existing setup, they also wont be able to get the low pings that FiOS can achieve due to the overhead in docsis networks. Lastly, what good is 300Mbit on Concast when they purposely oversubscribe there backbone links to over half the internet causing 500ms+ pings during peak hours.
Judging from the chart linked to this story
»FCC Report: ISPs Still Struggling to Deliver Advertised Speeds
Comcast is doing a remarkably good job of keeping their performance consistent during "peak" hours. Their line is almost as flat as Verizon's. Verizon over-delivers (I suspect largely due to the "fluff" you get when you order TV) which puts them higher.
I don't think anybody's going to argue that FTTH is the best tech out there. But it's not available to all of us, and it's a good thing that Comcast is at least trying to step up to the plate. Any competition is good competition.
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AT&T U-Hearse - RIP Unlimited Internet 1995-2011
Rethink Billable.
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | reply to iansltx
said by iansltx:I kinda wish Verizon would just bump the provisioning on its tier to 306 Mbps...just to tick off Comcast. Two can play at the one-upmanship game.
Just marketing tricks but hey it works for Comcast... if Verizon wanted to make sure no MSO could match their speeds they would offer high uploads like a 300/300 Mbps but they didn't why?
Besides in the near future in markets where Verizon can't offer anything respectable (all of non FiOS markets) they'll be offering the next best thing to fiber... cable's (Comcast, Cox, TWC, BrightHouse) DOCSIS3.x  |
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