 mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | Wooooooooooooow And sadly almost all CEO's of ISP's want to see this kind of pricing to access content on their pipes, are you kidding me? These people need to get over themselves, start kicking people off the network, and provide and actual good 100GB - 200GB per month service instead of just trying to add so many people that basically get nothing........
Matt
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
 ·Comcast
| No suprises there Satellite represents the worse possible economic model for broadband.
INCREDIBLE high sunk (ok launched) cost which means extremely expensive bandwidth, which must immediately be populated to the point (and beyond) of 100% plus overbooking at rates well above terrestrial competitors, and starts with "let me sell you a dish, and lock you into an expensive contract".
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | So for semi-real internet in rual areas one needs
Excede 35 GB tier $220
HomeFusion 30 GB tier $120
Verizon data only plan for USB dongle. 30 GB for $200
So 95 GB for "only" $540 a month. Meanwhile those that just live a few miles away can pay $50 for 250 GB and higher speeds. That's fucked up. |
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| Yep, but they've got these people by the balls. If they want any semblance of "high speed internet" then their options are limited until someone builds to them, or they move somewhere that is actually populated. |
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 DrModemPremium
join:2006-10-19
USA
kudos:1 | Pointless speed They give you 12/3, then cap you so low that it's too expensive to use any services that need such speed.
Too bad people like me are stuck with these nuts. |
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| Gen4 Hopefully Hughesnet Echostar 17 will get successfully launched and in place for Gen4 to be implemented. Would love to tell Viasat what they can do with their service! They do have people over a barrel and I certainly hope other options (such as Gen4) become available so people can tell Viasat what they can do with Exede. Exede... 1,000,000 customer capacity...with no customers....lol. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
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Re: So for semi-real internet in rual areas said by BF69:one needs
Excede 35 GB tier $220
HomeFusion 30 GB tier $120
Verizon data only plan for USB dongle. 30 GB for $200
So 95 GB for "only" $540 a month. Meanwhile those that just live a few miles away can pay $50 for 250 GB and higher speeds. That's fucked up.
But the high price is what eventually drives wireline providers to cover and area...once the population (potential customer) density reaches X and the cost per person for bandwidth equals Y it becomes practical to overbuild the existing low rate telephone system (it's still an overbuild even if the same company replaces/upgrades copper pairs with coax or fiber)
Satellite is a temporary stopgap for low density or remote areas (yes it is still remote even a few miles out of town) |
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| paying out the a$$ Exede 12/25 subscriber myself.. The technology works quite well for me. I get well over the advertized up to 12Mbps with sometimes getting over 24Mbps.
But this pricing they have come up with is complete and utter BS!!
Who are these asshats at ViaSat that think 25GB or even 60GB after paying $370/Month is reasonable?!? $150 now for 25GB and an additional $220 for 35GB more?? WTF?!? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to BF69
Re: So for semi-real internet in rual areas Are you volunteering to start an ISP that offers something better than VZ+VZ=exede?  |
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@centurytel.net | reply to OldSatUser
Re: Gen4 Echostar is going to be less expensive? Probably not. Hopefully a little competition will help drive down cost but until the equipment, substations and the cost to build satellites drop the subscriber costs will continue to be undesirable. At least it is better then Dial-up and previous satellite based internet systems. Anyone that says different doesn't remember dial-up or hasn't had to deal with it. |
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| :O I am so glad I pay 59$ for Time Warner's 50/5 uncapped. |
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Re: So for semi-real internet in rual areas Yeah, but, in most areas, the wireline providers are the phone company and the cable company. The phone company would be in the best position to build out into these areas, since they already have copper there, but Verizon and AT&T are already pushing wireless specifically because it's more profitable to do so. It's in their best interests not to extend wired broadband into those areas, since it would cut into their wireless business. As for the cable companies, most of them seem content to service the areas they have, only expanding into an area once it's turned into a densely-populated suburb. I once had a friend whose apartment building was only partially served by Knology, who was overbuilding the incumbent cable company. And when I say partially served, I mean that their service stopped at the apartment across the hall from him, and they absolutely refused to cross the hallway to reach his place. Not a large exterior landing or breezeway, but an interior hall, and a narrow one at that. If that isn't laziness, I don't know what is. |
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mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | reply to BF69
said by BF69:So 95 GB for "only" $540 a month. Meanwhile those that just live a few miles away can pay $50 for 250 GB and higher speeds. That's fucked up.
It's blunt, but so true, now if we can just hear the news media start saying this over the air live to America's shock, maybe a lot of these problems will be fixed
Matt
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mmay149qPremium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48 | reply to iansltx
said by iansltx:Are you volunteering to start an ISP that offers something better than VZ+VZ=exede?
If I could get the funding, I more than certainly would, but I'd also be the major stock holder, and if the other stock holders didn't like what I had to say about how the company is run I'd attempt to buy them out and replace them with non-douchebags...
Matt
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by mmay149q:If I could get the funding, I more than certainly would, but I'd also be the major stock holder, and if the other stock holders didn't like what I had to say about how the company is run I'd attempt to buy them out and replace them with non-douchebags...
Matt
If you could get the funding? From where? A bank? And they would then own your butt. Guess what, people don't lend you money without expecting to be paid back and with interest. And they don't lend money without strings attached.
And the Venture Capitalists have even more strings than a bank.
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 dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO | so wait... if the expense of launching a bird into space results in $10/GB overage... what is the excuse the cellcos are using for $10/GB? |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
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Re: So for semi-real internet in rual areas said by ISurfTooMuch: If that isn't laziness, I don't know what is.
It could have been a legal aggrement with the building owner or only being allowed to "wrap" one side of a building. Hard to know without details.
As far as telcos pushing wireless, it's true it is easier, faster, cheaper and higher priced...which is part of the formula that will eventually make it worthwhile (profitable) for cable-other wrieline or other better technology to build out.
Cable companies very much want/need to build out into new markets IF they can see a positive return on it. existing markets are saturating on standard products (HSI,CATV ,VoIP) but nobody can afford to sink money into areas that will have a negetive return for the forseeable future weather it's low density or excess competition, or gov't price controls.
Any program that alters that balance temporarily (gov't incentive usually) may speed build outs, but will create other problems if the incentive ends before actual market forces reach the balance point. You can see the effect as Gov't begins to ease out of universal phone access leaving a telco plant that can't support operational costs let alone next gen upgrades.
It 'is time for gov't to consider how much cost shifting from profitable areas to unprofitable rural areas ratepayers can and will practially support over the VERY long term required to pay of newgen plants. and even more important does supporting current nextgen plant expandtion, potentially cripple upcoming possibly better solutions of 10's of years. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
·Comcast
| reply to mmay149q
said by mmay149q:... about how the company is run I'd attempt to buy them out and replace them with non-douchebags...
Matt
Or they might force you out and be a profitable and ongoing bunch of douchebags, but at least providing alternete service |
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| HughesNet is better I rather take Hughesnet IF i cant get cable/dsl/wisp in my area. |
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westdc
join:2009-01-25
Amissville, VA
kudos:1 | Let The Raping Begin |
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