| TWC did this a long time ago in Texas. They later killed the idea when TWC in most areas became Comcast. I am surprised they haven't teamed up with Bingo or iPass yet for roaming $$$$$. |
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 dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on holdPremium
join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ
 ·Verizon FiOS
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| The one thing I've missed since switching to FiOS .... The one thing I've missed since switching to FiOS has been Cablevision (Optimum Online)'s OOL WiFi service.
It's just about everywhere I go in NJ/NY. An excellent benefit/perk for cable customers.
Verizon supposedly has a Wi-Fi service, but you need Windows-based client software, and that's a non-starter for me. I just use my MiFi LTE device in that case.
Good stuff though - Cablevision really offers a superior (Internet and phone) product, and to say they've blanketed NJ & NY with WiFi is an understatement. A job well done. |
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 ·Millenicom
 ·AT&T Southeast
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| Cable Industry Provides Cross-Carrier Wi-Fi They really need to work with their business subscribers about creating more WiFi locations. Discounts, no cost equipment installation, or added services at no charge may be needed to convince business owners to create guest access. I know my community would have at least a 100% increase in hotspots if the cable companies could figure out how to get the business owners to support it. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
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Re: TWC "most"?? I wouldn't call swapping markets (TWC got Dallas, Comcast got Houston) "most areas became Comcast". Though I don't think that the swap did anything to consolidate either company's markets (the Golden Triangle area is still TWC...heck, Houston is the only Comcast market in Texas). |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | reply to dennismurphy
Re: The one thing I've missed since switching to FiOS .... Looks like Michael Powell wasn't completely wrong  That's a pretty nice perk, what are the drawbacks of WiFi compared to a cell phone data plan? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
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Re: Cable Industry Provides Cross-Carrier Wi-Fi Agreed. Or just start handing out routers like Illiad (Free.fr) is doing with their STBs...the cable modem is a wireless router with an SSID that's accessible by cable customers, is sectioned off of the rest of the network, and doesn't impact the speed of the business user when guests are online.
To be fair though, the equipment that CV has beployed in the NYC area is high-end stuff, such that they can offer something like 15 Mbps down, 2 Mbps up over WiFi reliably (wish TWC or Comcast did that in their areas). |
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 BootesPremium
join:2005-01-28
Palo Alto, CA | reply to dennismurphy
Re: The one thing I've missed since switching to FiOS .... Verizon WiFi is terrible. Requiring Windows makes it useless for me, but I haven't even seen any hotspots they offer that aren't free anyways. Optimum WiFi is the one thing making me consider switching back to Optimum. |
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BootesPremium
join:2005-01-28
Palo Alto, CA | reply to axus
said by axus:Looks like Michael Powell wasn't completely wrong That's a pretty nice perk, what are the drawbacks of WiFi compared to a cell phone data plan?
Cell phones still have better coverage and can be used well in a moving vehicle. The Wifi is great if you're sitting stationary somewhere. |
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Re: Cable Industry Provides Cross-Carrier Wi-Fi Wont happen, new security standards for most business does not allow this to happen at all. |
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·AT&T Southeast
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The problem with just handing out WiFi capable routers is that many business manager or owners will stick it in any old spot they have with no thought to signal coverage. A good installation that provides adequate signal coverage for a particular structure may require multiple access points. I would rather the owners pay the wholesale costs for equipment and have any labor cost at no charge. A good installation technician who can run cabling to multiple APs, set signal levels, and check coverage is the most costly element. And it is the one with the most variables. |
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bklassPremium
join:2012-02-06
Canada Reviews:
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| Not a surprise Cartel behaviour ... this is the "free market" in operation. Isn't Verizon trying to ditch its open access spectrum blocks ... made possible by cableco's selling back their closed spectrum to Verizon. In return? Bundling their Wi-Fi with Verizon services. I thought the only modicum of competition we were supposed to have in North America was between cable and telco's ... how can there be competition when all these companies are in bed with each other? |
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·AT&T Southeast
·Verizon Wireless..
| The cable companies that thought they were going to build cellular networks or fixed based wireless broadband got a rude awakening. In order to get the geographic coverage that would satisfy customers enough to make an adequate profit, they were going to have to spend an enormous amount of money. In order to provide good customer service for wireless, they would have to spend another mountain of money they did not have. They quickly decided to find a legal way to get rid of the spectrum that might be profitable for them. The solution is not beneficial to the average cable subscriber, but it avoids a fight with stockholders over capital spending. |
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Re: Cable Industry Provides Cross-Carrier Wi-Fi Ouch. Read the reports. Hot Spot Squatting is on the rise. The last thing any business wants is to add a public hotspot. They have to use a hook at my local coffee spot.
If these guys keep lowering caps, you will have people driving all over the place to get their fix and if this correlates to public businesses this can mean either MORE business or squatting. Depending upon the location this may be good or bad.
And what's to stop these guys for charging for this..You know that's coming. |
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Re: The one thing I've missed since switching to FiOS .... said by axus:Looks like Michael Powell wasn't completely wrong That's a pretty nice perk, what are the drawbacks of WiFi compared to a cell phone data plan?
Wifi has no data caps. if your phone is 3g its faster, if 4g then 4g is faster then wireless (as of right now since cablevision limits their ap's to 15/3) |
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Re: Cable Industry Provides Cross-Carrier Wi-Fi They do not need business owners approval at all. The AP's are on the poles connected to the HFC network. They run on their own frequency on the coax that is different then the cablemodem and stb frequencies.
Its just a matter of the cablecompany taking the AP and hanging it on the pole. |
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Re: Not a surprise This has NOTHING to do with the verizon deal. Cablevision has been doing this for 3 years or so . They have been sharing the wifi with comcast and timewarner for 2 of those years. This deal ads brighthouse to the deal and combines all the ssids into one.
Cablevision who started this is Not in that Verizon deal. Cablevision started this as a perk for their customers that verizon does not have. |
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Re: Cable Industry Provides Cross-Carrier Wi-Fi There are hardware, software, and communication ways to deal with squatters. Yes, you can connect here. No, we do not have any power outlets in the customer area that work. The manager at one coffeehouse disconnected the electrical outlets for one of the most popular areas of seating in the establishment. It was near the order pick up area. The squatters needed electricity, but they would have to go away from the self-serve coffee and drink refill areas to get it. Some days there is no power at any outlets in the customer seating area. Squatters like reliable sources of electricity and she is not going to give it to them. I have read about sophisticated electrical control systems that can be programmed to stop or start the flow of electricity to outlets based on a schedule the
owner can set up. No outlet electricity during busy times when table turn over needs to be as fast as possible. Electrical power available during slack times.
I think one of the reasons the cable industry is doing this is the ridiculous AT&T and Verizon positions that businesses that are provisioned with a typical 3.0Mbps DSL circuit are really offering a great WiFi experience for a business's many customers. AT&T and Verizon have got some minor positive PR for their WiFi programs. The cable companies want some of that also, and know that if they do it correctly, they can probably get even more positive public relations out of WiFi sponsorship. Think about an 8 bonded channel down, 4 bonded channel up, DOCSIS 3.0 connection compared to a 3.0Mbps down, 0.375Mbps up DSL connection for a 100 seat coffee house. All else being equal, which is going to deliver a better WiFi experience?
Could they charge for it? Yes. But here's something I think they are looking at. It is a big giant advertising campaign for the cable industry, with the local cable company's logo displayed somehow alongside the national WiFi HotSpot logo. Most likely it is less expensive than other ways of trying to make a despised industry look good. They also want to try to get more people who do not subscribe to cable broadband, in areas with existing cable plant, to sign up. If you can support a bunch of 100 seat coffee and sandwich shops, certainly you must be able to provide good service to my home. |
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| never worked the cablecos have been advertising inter-op login for wifi but it has never worked. even if you use userid@cablecohere.com as the login id...
believe it when I see it.. |
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Re: The one thing I've missed since switching to FiOS .... didn't VZ have Wi-Fi in the city before and scrapped the project? |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | reply to tmc8080
Re: never worked While this round might actually work, and the access speeds are far superior to that found via Boingo / Starbucks et al, who actually uses Cable Wifii?
In our town, where they're "spending $15 million" to deploy thousands of access points, the signal is usually not close enough or strong enough to be relevant. |
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