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Comments on news posted 2012-03-19 16:32:45: When you've got companies like AT&T dumping all voice and data traffic unfiltered into the NSA's lap (pdf) for perusal without pesky warrants or regard for law, there's an awful lot of data that needs dissecting. ..

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PToN

join:2001-10-04
Houston, TX

Wasting more $$$

I think this is totally unnecessary for a country in deficit...


vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA

It's a matter of national security. If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to fear. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. It's for the children.

Ok, I think I've covered all the usual platitudes.



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

where was this "nsa" before 9-11? This is all post 9-11 stuff. It's all infringing on our freedoms and rights.



Corehhi

join:2002-01-28
Bluffton, SC
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Cold war???

So what's the difference between the old Soviet block countries keeping their citizens under surveillance and especially wire tapping phones and the US today??? Decades and a huge amount spent on a cold war and the US government isn't any different. Oh the BS is piling up high now....

brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

reply to PToN

Re: Wasting more $$$

We should hire the Chinese to monitor us then we can cut the price to $1 billion.


phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?

join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ

reply to mikedz4

said by mikedz4:

where was this "nsa" before 9-11? This is all post 9-11 stuff. It's all infringing on our freedoms and rights.

We have no freedoms or rights in this country since the new dictator took over.


Linklist
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5

Data farm will be HUGE

It is big enough so that they needed to start using a little known term for how much data it will store - yottabytes.

It needs that capacity because, according to a recent report by Cisco, global Internet traffic will quadruple from 2010 to 2015, reaching 966 exabytes per year. (A million exabytes equal a yottabyte.) In terms of scale, Eric Schmidt, Google’s former CEO, once estimated that the total of all human knowledge created from the dawn of man to 2003 totaled 5 exabytes. And the data flow shows no sign of slowing. In 2011 more than 2 billion of the world’s 6.9 billion people were connected to the Internet. By 2015, market research firm IDC estimates, there will be 2.7 billion users. Thus, the NSA’s need for a 1-million-square-foot data storehouse. Should the agency ever fill the Utah center with a yottabyte of information, it would be equal to about 500 quintillion (500,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of text.

Is this the much predicted exaflood?
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ohnoes

@sbcglobal.net

WHAT

ARE YOU SAYING THE NSA IS COLLECTING SECRET COMMUNICATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY? *shocked*


Linklist
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5

reply to vpoko

Re: Wasting more $$$

said by vpoko:

It's a matter of national security.

Security forum here had a long discussion about this:
»Wired article explains NSA decrypting plans & new facility

amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America

reply to brianiscool
Who do you think is manufacturing 99% of the actual hardware that will end up in the guts of this beast?



vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA

reply to phxmark
I've got some news for you, the new dictator has been doing more of the same thing as the last several dictators. Certainly there was a post 9/11 executive power grab but that mostly happened under Bush. Not that it wouldn't have happened under Clinton or Obama, it's just when the opportunity presented itself.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

reply to brianiscool
I wonder if ZTE got the networking contract.


MaynardKrebs
Premium
join:2009-06-17
kudos:4

Show me the money!!


According to the precepts of Ed “Nobody gets a free ride" Whitacre, the NSA should be paying us for accessing our data.


AJ5TT

join:2003-08-17
Friendswood, TX

reply to vpoko

Re: Wasting more $$$

I am an old fart who remembers the cold war and during that time thought how horrible to live in a society where the KGB kept watch over their citizens. Proud of the rights and freedoms we have in the USA. Today, not so much.


vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA

reply to Linklist
I never did trust AES because of it being the official cypher of the US government. If they're encouraging general use, it means they have a way of breaking it. Use Twofish, Serpent, Rijndael, or even a some combination of them, and don't skimp on the bits.



AlphaOne
I see
Premium
join:2004-02-21

I really don't mind

the NSA reading my LOL texts/SMS.

I don't mind sharing the pr0ns movies I'm watching either.
Oh, they can keep the voicemails left by the telemarketers in my mailbox.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

If someone wants to test an EMP weapon

... this is the best target in the world, bar none.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to vpoko

Re: Wasting more $$$

said by vpoko:

It's a matter of national security. If you've got nothing to hide then you've got nothing to fear. You're either with us or you're with the terrorists. It's for the children.

Ok, I think I've covered all the usual platitudes.

You left out Copyright Infringement
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to Corehhi

Re: Cold war???

[Knock Knock]

There's a big black sedan in the driveway and some men at your door.

Nice knowing you, Comrade.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

It's a violation of the Constitution at every level

... therefore, an illegal, criminal facility.

Which means that we should be able to do illegal and criminal things to said facility to decommission it.

Uh oh. Now they're watching me.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

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