| Isn't a DVD sale still a sale? Wow, so the studios don't want Redbox and others buying DVDs retail, just consumers? What idiocy.
A sale is a sale is a sale. Who cares who buys it as long as it gets bought and the studios make the money?
Sure Redbox then rents that DVD out, but consumers aren't likely to buy movies they haven't seen in the theaters or via rental so even if the consumer goes to Redbox first, it might promote a sale if the movie is worth it (or the consumer is interested in the extras that don't typically come on teh rental discs).
If monkeys ran our government and our corporations I think we'd be better off. When will Planet of the Apes occur again?
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| said by UhWhat :Wow, so the studios don't want Redbox and others buying DVDs retail, just consumers? What idiocy.
A sale is a sale is a sale. Who cares who buys it as long as it gets bought and the studios make the money?
The studios won't make as much money. |
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andyrossPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL | Netflix doesn't want DVD's and doesn't care Basically, NF bends over for TW and the studios because in the streaming world, the studios have 100% control. Unlike the physical world, there is no First Sale law for streaming or even downloads.
NF wants to get rid of DVD's as soon as it can. That means it cannot do anything that will anger the studios. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to fifty nine
Re: Isn't a DVD sale still a sale? said by fifty nine:The studios won't make as much money. That's the thinking of the studios but I think we all know that Redbox would be a new retail customer for DVDs, as most people who use Redbox and other services like these are not buying DVDs to begin with, nor would we buy DVDs simply because we could not rent them.
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| I would perfer a retail DVD/Blu-ray The rental disks don't have the extra content. So I would perfer a retail DVD/Blu-ray. |
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| Restricting purchases Trying to restrict purchases won't work, not really. Sure, they can try, but there are so many retailers selling DVD's that it won't matter much. RedBox will simply spread purchases out among several retailers and get all they need.
These idiots really don't understand how most people choose what to watch. I don't know of anyone who will, if they can't find a movie available to rent, run out and buy it, unless they can find it in the bargain bin for not much more than the rental price. If they don't find a title they were looking to rent, most will simply choose another one, or, if they can't find another one they like, they'll either watch something they already own or simply find something else to do.
These executives have spent so much time and money telling us that their shit is gold that they've actually started believing it themselves. |
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join:2003-07-06
Hampton Bays, NY
kudos:7 | reply to AstroBoy
Re: I would perfer a retail DVD/Blu-ray said by AstroBoy:The rental disks don't have the extra content. So I would perfer a retail DVD/Blu-ray.
id rather rent the disc that doesnt have the extra content and download/view the extra content from the internet to watch it than buy an overpriced disc with the extra content that im only going to watch once and not again for a quite a number of years.
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 DrexBeer...The other white meat.Premium
join:2000-02-24
La Place, LA
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Re: Isn't a DVD sale still a sale? said by UhWhat :If monkeys ran our government and our corporations I think we'd be better off. From what I've seen with the government, I think they already do.
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 mix
join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI | reply to ISurfTooMuch
Re: Restricting purchases No kidding. They could probably open a few Amazon accounts and buy from them and no one would be the wiser. |
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Re: I would perfer a retail DVD/Blu-ray I am referring to the article. So I am looking forward to getting retail disks from RedBox. I do like the extras, sometimes. |
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Re: Isn't a DVD sale still a sale? said by pnh102:That's the thinking of the studios but I think we all know that RedBox would be a new retail customer for DVDs, as most people who use RedBox and other services like these are not buying DVDs to begin with, nor would we buy DVDs simply because we could not rent them. Can't RedBox get into legal problems by buying retail DVD's and then renting them for profit? AFAIK, retail DVD's are for customer's own private viewing. RedBox might be thinking like the majority of us: once you paid for it, it's yours to do as you please, but according to studios, that may not be the case. Now, it's impossible to police when regular Joe Schmoes like us are lending them to our friends, but when a company like RedBox officially is rents them for profit, it's different.
Not that I am a big fan of what studios are doing with these delays, but IMO the only way to rent it the legitimate way is on their terms.
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Re: Restricting purchases Amazon, Buy.com, Best Buy, Newegg, Walmart, GoHastings, Fry's, DeepDiscount.com, J&R, and many more that I can't even think of at the moment, not to mention all the local retailers. |
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mogamer
join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI | Sue WB? If WB tries to restrict the amount of product a retailer can sell Redbox, then Redbox should sue WB. Maybe under RICO? I don't know the law, so I'm sure about that one. But one would think that WB would be violating at least one law dealing in restricting trade. |
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 NickDPremium
join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ
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Re: Netflix doesn't want DVD's and doesn't care This might be an opportunity for a rogue website in another country to make a profit. Start a subscription service similar to Netflix, stream any movie and ignore the C&D's. People will think it's legal because they're paying for it. If they're in the right place (such as a third world country) they won't get shut down unless the US declares war on that country. Plus they can advertise their service as being available worldwide, which Netflix can't do. How does the Pirate Bay stay up so long despite being the target of every copyright enforcement agency in the world?
Hollywood would lose a lot of the Netflix money and would have to change their terms to allow Netflix to compete with the illegal site. Right now, every movie in the entire Netflix catalog is able to be pirated for free. But people pay for Netflix for the ease of access and integration with multiple devices, as well as the fact that it's legal and affordable. If a new website pops up that has the exact same service as Netflix, except that it has many more movies available for streaming and it's illegal (but the site claims it's legal), people will switch to it. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to Pirate515
Re: Isn't a DVD sale still a sale? said by Pirate515:Can't RedBox get into legal problems by buying retail DVD's and then renting them for profit? No.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale···einstein
The warnings against renting printed on DVDs mean nothing.
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| Yeah right. This won't drive anyone else to piracy who doesn't already know how to pirate. No one is going to spend the time waiting on a disc to arrive from Netflix or driving down to the store to go grab one out of a big red machine when they can just download it for free within minutes.
The only people who are upset about this are butthurt Netflix subscribers who are too incompetent to pirate and know they're going to have to wait or *gasp* actually pay a reasonable sum of money for their media that cost the studios millions to make!
If everyone rented and no one bought home video wouldn't exist. People who only rent leech off of buyers who actually support the studios. They make pennies from people who rent and hundreds of times more from just a single person who buys a $20 disc. When you rent you fork over your money to a middleman like Netflix, not to the people who actually made the shit you're watching. |
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Re: Sue WB? how? WB can restrict the wholesalers with no problems. If the wholesaler does not wish to comply WB can pull their supply and contract from them as well. |
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Re: Restricting purchases said by mix:No kidding. They could probably open a few Amazon accounts and buy from them and no one would be the wiser. Better yet, have their employees make purchases for them using their personal accounts (either on Amazon or wherever they find best deals) and then reimburse them for the cost. They should have plenty of inventory if every employee buys 2-3 copies. Plus it's next to impossible to track where each individual shopper is employed. Most reputable B&M and online retailers don't ask anyway as it's none of their business.
And as an extra-added bonus, once the popularity of any given title dies down, they sell most of the copies as used and make some money back.
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IllIlIlllIllEliteDataPremium
join:2003-07-06
Hampton Bays, NY
kudos:7 | reply to AstroBoy
Re: I would perfer a retail DVD/Blu-ray said by AstroBoy:I am referring to the article. So I am looking forward to getting retail disks from RedBox. I do like the extras, sometimes.
if they plan on carrying the discs that have all the features and extra content without the stupid 10 minute coming attractions and "how piracy is bad" commercials, then that is a big plus since most newer home disc players wont let you skip that sh_t to begin with and youre forced to wait it out.
all the more one reason why i prefer streaming over renting, because of the annoying 10 minute coming attractions and advertisements you cant skip (on newer players) before you can even get to the dvd menu to start the movie.
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 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | reply to mogamer
Re: Sue WB? Redbox can make a quiet arrangement with Walmart, for example, to buy 2x the number of copies they'd normally buy for movies that Redbox specifies. The movie studios may threaten to cancel sales to Walmart, but they won't.
Why does Walmart care if a Redbox employee buys (40) copies of the same movie for $16.99 or (40) individuals buy a single copy for $16.99. In fact, Walmart probably prefers the BULK sale ! |
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