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kudos:5 | RE:US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even hands free Nanny government at work once again. There is absolutely no lengths the gov't won't go to to save "JUST ONE LIFE". Of course the insurance industry is a big driver of this attitude. But there will always be a government bureaucrat or elected nonentity that will be willing to remove our freedoms to save that 1 life.
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"No call, no text, no update, is worth a human life," Deborah Hersman, chairwoman of the National Transportation Safety Board, said at a news conference in Washington.
Besides calling for government action, the NTSB also urged consumer electronics manufacturers to figure out a way to "disable the functions of portable electronic devices within reach of the driver when a vehicle is in motion" while at the same time being able to turn themselves back on in an emergency.
And what drove this NTSB recommendation? 2 dead.:
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The recommendation comes following the NTSB's investigation of an August 2010 accident in Gray Summit, Mo., involving a pickup truck, two school buses and several other vehicles.
Driving and texting: msnbc.com cartoonists weigh in
The accident was blamed on the 19-year-old driver of the pickup, who sent or received 11 texts in the 11 minutes before the pileup, which killed two people and injured 38 others.
Other studies question the NTSB study and recommendation:
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But similar studies linking cellphone use to poor driving have been challenged, most recently by researchers at Wayne State University in Detroit, who concluded last month that some earlier studies were seriously flawed.
The report, published in the journal Epidemiology, examined to earlier studies that examined crashes in which cellphone records showed that the driver had used a cellphone. Those studies "likely overestimated the relative risk for cellphone conversations," the researchers said, because they improperly assumed that the drivers were actually in motion when they were on the phone — in other words, they didn't factor in such so-called part-time driving.
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kudos:5 | RE:Is the Kindle Fire going to crash and burn? »www.nytimes.com/2011/12/12/techn···=general
Jakob Nielsen, a usability expert, denounced the Fire, saying it offered “a disappointingly poor” experience. For users whose fingers are not as slender as toothpicks, he warned, the screen could be particularly frustrating to manipulate.
“I feel the Fire is going to be a failure,” Mr. Nielsen, of the Nielsen Norman Group, a Silicon Valley consulting firm, said in an interview. “I can’t recommend buying it.”
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| US calls for near total in-car phone ban even with bluetooth  The proposal by the NTSB recommending a total in-car phone ban and a proposal by the law makers listed below to allow robocalls to cell phones, demonstrates that the government and particularly those lawmakers are morons. While the NTSB recommends a total in-car phone ban we have the following lawmakers cosponsoring a bill to allow robocalls to cell phones:
Cosponsors:
Marsha Blackburn [R-TN7]
John Gingrey [R-GA11]
Leonard Lance [R-NJ7]
Blaine Luetkemeyer [R-MO9]
David McKinley [R-WV1]
Mick Mulvaney [R-SC5]
Pete Olson [R-TX22]
Michael Rogers [R-MI8]
Edolphus Towns [D-NY10]
See this article on the MSNBC website:
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On the other hand all concerned parties should be required to watch the movie It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. Particularly the scene where the loud mouth mother in law Mrs. Marcus played by Ethel Merman wackes J. Algernon Hawthorne played by Terry Thomas in the back of the head while he is driving which causes him to lose control and damage the vehicle he is driving. There were no cell phones in 1963 when the movie was released.
Any driver caught texting while driving should have their cell phone shoved up their stupid ass. On the other hand there are always distracted drivers. In one case many years ago before children were required to be strapped in, a mother reached for her child to prevent it from falling off the seat and lost control of her car causing a horrendous accident. |
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| Ironic? US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even with bluetooth [MSNBC.com]
FAA approves iPads in the cockpit [zdnet.com] |
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Chesterfield, MO | FAA approves iPad for all phases of flight OK -- did they add special shielding to the cockpits or iPads or do the airlines revel in holding the power to annoy a Baldwin brother resulting in hilarious SNL skits?
Isn't it time to question the airlines archaic electronic device policies?
I'd argue that LightSquared's planned LTE network has a better chance of crashing a plane than airline passenger electronic devices. |
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Camden, TN | reply to Linklist
Re: RE:US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even hands free said by Linklist:Nanny government at work once again. There is absolutely no lengths the gov't won't go to to save "JUST ONE LIFE". Of course the insurance industry is a big driver of this attitude. But there will always be a government bureaucrat or elected nonentity that will be willing to remove our freedoms to save that 1 life. So I guess you're mad there are drunk driving laws too then? You do NOT have the freedom to text and drive. Driving by the way is a PRIVELIDGE not a RIGHT.
What you think people should just do whatever they want and ANY laws are bad? That's anarchy. And sorry anarchy is not freedom. I'm sorry but even in a free society there are rules and laws that must be adhered too. If you do not wish to be "ruled" then LEAVE and find a secluded island somewhere.. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to Whatever
Re: Ironic? said by Whatever :US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even with bluetooth [MSNBC.com]
FAA approves iPads in the cockpit [zdnet.com]
HUGE difference. Most planes today fly themselves. |
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Re: RE:US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even hands free Writing new laws is what legislatures do, freedom or sanity be damned. A kid somehow drowns in MA and his guilt-ridden father gets a law passed to get kids to "swim" in life-vests at camps. |
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Re: Ironic? The pilot's maps and charts are on the ipad now. It's more convenient to carry one ipad rather than 20 pounds of paper. |
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That's what LS is doing. They don't have any standing to try and make "deals" with the FCC. They knew what they were getting, and in fact can use their licenses now - no questions asked - if they use them as stipulated when they got them.
I simply don't understand what LS's problem is. The license is very specific - it's for satellite communication in that band. If they choose not to, then they should either turn the licenses in or sell them off. Sorry it doesn't fit in your business plan, but maybe you should have thought about that BEFORE you made the investments.
They're acting like a three year old child. Ask the same question 100 different ways trying to get their parents to change their minds.
I also don't understand the people here who defend them. This is not a "bait and switch" nor are these frequencies "owned" by LS to be used however they'd like. When you win a frequency (or block of frequencies) at auction, the FCC is very specific with what you can do with them. It's not as if LS spent all this money and then the FCC said "Oh, by the way, you can't do that!" They knew the limitations when they got the licenses.
Caveat emptor.
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kudos:5 | reply to BF69
Re: RE:US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even hands free said by BF69:said by Linklist:Nanny government at work once again. There is absolutely no lengths the gov't won't go to to save "JUST ONE LIFE". Of course the insurance industry is a big driver of this attitude. But there will always be a government bureaucrat or elected nonentity that will be willing to remove our freedoms to save that 1 life. So I guess you're mad there are drunk driving laws too then? You do NOT have the freedom to text and drive. Driving by the way is a PRIVELIDGE{SIC} not a RIGHT. I didn't say anything about drunk driving laws at all. But even there the idiots in government take things too far. First it was .10% BAC, then .08% BAC; and in some states even lower than that. The idiots want to take it to a point that you couldn't wash your mouth out with an alcohol containing mouthwash or you would be prevented from even starting your car by an interlock system.
Hands free cell call is not causing accidents any more than arguing with a passenger would(some studies agree; some don't). So, where does it end? I'll tell you - the Google dream of a machine driven car with ZERO human control after plugging in the destination. And all in the name of trying to remove ANY human risks at all from life. Like I said - oppressive nanny government run by those who want to control your every waking moment.
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Camden, TN | said by Linklist:I didn't say anything about drunk driving laws at all. Basically you did. You said any laws are just the naanny state taking away your freedom. The fact is texting an drive is as bad or worse than drunk driving. There is PROOF of that. Thuis is drunk driving is illegal and you're ok with that then you shouldn't have an issue with a ban on texting. If you do you are either obtuse or a hypocrite. Not trying to offend you but logically you'd have to be one of the two is you're for one law and not the other. |
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"This most recent leak ... is a part of the multi-million public relations/lobbying campaign being coordinated by GPS manufacturers, who have a financial interest in the outcome of this debate."
As if Lightsquared didn't have a "financial interest" in the outcome of this debate.
Lightsquared's assertions about the motivations of the GPS manufacturers doesn't hold water, in my view. It seems to me the GPS manufacturers win either way. For example: If Lightsquared gets their way, their trashing of the GPS system will surely result in millions of dollars of new sales for GPS makers, no? |
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Mechanicsville, VA | reply to Goldman
Re: Ironic? said by Goldman:The pilot's maps and charts are on the ipad now. It's more convenient to carry one ipad rather than 20 pounds of paper.
I don't think that was his point at all.
His point was that airlines require all electronic devices to be turned off by passengers due to they may interfere with the plane's systems. Yet an iPad in the cockpit where all the instruments are actually located, mysteriously will not cause any interference but the ones belonging to those pesky passengers will.
And I really cannot believe that dropping 33.5 pounds off a plane will save over 1.2 billion dollars a year. Seems like some creative math there. |
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BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to Wilsdom
Re: RE:US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even hands free said by Wilsdom:Writing new laws is what legislatures do, freedom or sanity be damned. A kid somehow drowns in MA and his guilt-ridden father gets a law passed to get kids to "swim" in life-vests at camps.
So texting and driving are cool with you. Like getting high or drunk and driving are cool with you too? |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to BF69
said by BF69:said by Linklist:Nanny government at work once again. There is absolutely no lengths the gov't won't go to to save "JUST ONE LIFE". Of course the insurance industry is a big driver of this attitude. But there will always be a government bureaucrat or elected nonentity that will be willing to remove our freedoms to save that 1 life. So I guess you're mad there are drunk driving laws too then? You do NOT have the freedom to text and drive. Driving by the way is a PRIVELIDGE not a RIGHT. What you think people should just do whatever they want and ANY laws are bad? That's anarchy. And sorry anarchy is not freedom. I'm sorry but even in a free society there are rules and laws that must be adhered too. If you do not wish to be "ruled" then LEAVE and find a secluded island somewhere.. now remember he does not support no laws at all. he does seem to back up draconian anti-piracy laws that support the MAFIAA.
somehow ICE being allowed to steal domains illegally without a court order or any body of proof a site is in the wrong is not taking away rights, but banning driver usage of a cell phone is taking away rights.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Whatever
Re: Ironic? Guessing the FAA can trust the pilot to shut off the radios more than a passenger. I bet its impossible to detect an operating iPad outside of a shielded lab when all its radios are off. if you where to set an ipad in this room I am in all radios off I bet any detection gear would pick up the motor in my ceiling fan first.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Linklist
Re: RE:Is the Kindle Fire going to crash and burn? well I think many people also expected too much from the Fire. they went in expecting a cheap ass Ipad/DroidPad.
really its a super fancy Kindle that does a few other things but not very well but its cheap and attempts to fill a niche.
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Troy, NY | reply to Mr Matt
Re: US calls for near total in-car phone ban even with bluetooth On the upside, if you ever get a call from a politician, you can just say loudly "I CAN'T TALK NOW, I'M DRIVING" and hang up.
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Re: RE:US calls for near total in-car phone ban, even hands free said by Linklist: I didn't say anything about drunk driving laws at all. But even there the idiots in government take things too far. First it was .10% BAC, then .08% BAC; and in some states even lower than that.
They made it illegal to drink & drive with .1% BAC or higher. That apparently was not low enough. Driving is not a right, nor should it be. Driving is dangerous and as such we need to have laws to minimize any unnecessary risks that happen behind the wheel. How anyone would be against this is truly mind boggling. What good reason does a person have to drive and not concentrate completely on the road? If you can come up with one, you shouldn't be driving in the first place. |
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