 GbcueP.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:8 | Sonic.net Where's Sonic's gigabit service? |
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| Where is At&t? Verse gets decent speeds... are they seriously slower then earthlink? |
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| DSL users brinigng down VZ The reason VZ is so low on that has to be because its including both FIOS and DSL users... too bad they couldn't separate them.
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this study is worthless
but what can you expect from PCrag magazine...
had they used the test results from the FCC & Sam knows to get a true accurate picture this so called study from PCrag would be quite different.
speedtest.net is unable to distinguish between DSL and Fiber?
these test results are inaccurate IMHO. Thought VZ used different IP blocks for DSL & Fiber?
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Fios isn't nationwide... nor is verizon for that matter...but i gues none of the ISP's listed are truly nationwide right? hmmm... "Fastest ISPs Nationwide"...what an odd list! |
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Re: Where is At&t? They're not grabbing the top 5% of all users, but taking an 'average' of all users.
AT&T's Uverse internet starts out with 3Mbps/1Mbps and charges extra. If they add in the ADSL users, many never make it past 3Mbps (2.4Mbps after ATM overhead).
TWC (and most cable providers) first bundle in +10Mbps/1Mbps (they'll charge more for a 1.5Mbps if you wanted to downgrade in a bundle!), 'then' they add on 'Boost' to fluff the numbers with a 20-30Mbps download rate for the first 10-20 seconds.
Eg. My '10/1Mbps package'
said by pcmag :
Who scored the lowest? Folks in Alabama, South Carolina and Mississippi appear to stumble thanks to AT&T South (formerly Bellsouth). All had an index of well below 5.0 (Alabama's AT&T speed is the lowest on the chart, with an index of 2.56.). The District of Columbia comes close, with Verizon getting an index score of 3.19 (despite the fact that FiOS is available in D.C.).
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Re: DSL users brinigng down VZ Beyond that.... most cable results are fluffed with 'Boost' and many DSL lines (AT&T) are killed with ATM overhead. |
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| ?? Surely the don't include power boost in this, right? That would make the whole thing pretty worthless. |
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| Mediacon honors last place Along with outrageous service and prices. I get during peak hours 1mb/s of 12mb. Even att 3g is faster than this s***t. |
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| Nice to see WOW on there Nice to see WOW on there. most comparasions I never see them listed. |
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| Might as well rank them alphabetically Comparing capped and uncapped services is ridiculous. In terms of the value and real functionality of the service to subscribers, Potemkin ISPs like Cox and Comcast can't even be ranked. |
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con100
join:2011-08-03
Westlake, OH | reply to Metatron2008
Re: Where is At&t? I used to have Uverse and it was slow. Got slower speeds then what I paid for. |
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| not helpful at all... This is really more about how fast the average plan speed is...If you get the cheap-o 1mbps plan, you'll have slow internet. if you pay the $100/month and get the 50mpbs you'll have faster...
What would be more helpful is how well the ISPs deliver closest to advertised speeds. If you pay for 15megs down, do you get it? |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | It's not supposed to be helpful, as much as it is controversial. I sincerely wish this was just left as a link. |
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 BHNtechXpertBHN StaffPremium,VIP
join:2006-02-16
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:79 | PC Mag had it right...Oookla had it wrong... I'll catch all sorts of hell for this but I know I'm right and it needs to be said. PC Mag had the general idea right to begin with, Ookla was wrong and they have always been wrong.
First of all the online user experience should NOT be measured by web browsing alone because being online is far more than just surfing nowadays.
There are two major types of measurements that should be made when you are benchmarking the quality of your internet connection.
1) Application Speed and Quality - The absolute maximum speed and quality of service obtainable through a single socket test. This is important because streaming, voip and similar applications in most cases are NOT multi-socket but are in fact single socket. That said this form of testing is critical in evaluating the real quality of an internet connection because for example if your subscribed tier is 40/5 and your single socket application test results rates you at 5/1 with a QoS of 37% you are going to have serious problems with certain applications.
This happens a lot with certain providers and yet very few benchmarking sites help users diagnose these issues when this is what people should be looking at. For most windows based systems the above referenced connection will top out somewhere around 12-15/4.8 with a QoS of not less than 90% when running a single socket TCP test to be considered a good connection. There are ways to improve this depending on your operating system, distance between test site and obviously the quality of your network connection.
2) Capacity - This is more like the traditional speed tests which first calibrate based on connection speed, determining at what datarate the connections starts to drop packets and then open a specific number of sockets based on the calibration speed for the duration of the test. This test should ideally also measure QoS (or the connections ability to maintain a steady datarate for the duration of the test). This is the test that essentially behaves like modern browsers would.
It's critically important to know the results of both tests before making an evaluation of the connection quality and Ookla doesn't offer you both of these tests so any results they provided PC Mag would have been only marginally useful.
PC Mag was on the right track to begin with...they just did an awful job of explaining it to the public and press who apparently hassled them over it and apparently caved this year to the pressure...sad really because they had an opportunity to properly educate the public on internet connection benchmarking and blew it. |
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| Charter? Holy cow!!
Charter and speed mentioned in the same sentence!!
Actually,
My Charter connection is and always has been quite good.
On the 12/1 plan:
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Re: DSL users brinigng down VZ said by houkouonchi:The reason VZ is so low on that has to be because its including both FIOS and DSL users... too bad they couldn't separate them.
Well, then there's just one thing to do then... DOUBLE THE SPEEDS FOR FREE!! That should shut Comcast out... |
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
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Re: Where is At&t? said by en103:They're not grabbing the top 5% of all users, but taking an 'average' of all users.
I didn't think so:
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Re: Charter? Its not bad here at my uni
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| Ookla is a bad choice. Ookla's Speedtest.net is not accurate and tends to give extra high speed readings which is why a lot of companies like Qwest use it. It would give me a speed of 1600k on my1500k DSL line that was only running about 640k. It gives insanely high readings on Virgin Mobile too. Speed.io is more accurate. |
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