 mobOn the next level..Premium
join:2000-10-07 | Yes! People can safely know that they will be price gouged for only the newest tech. |
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| The ITU made themselves irrelevant They put the U.S. carriers in that position. They have no one to blame but themselves. |
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | So what's the going price.... To buy off the ITU? Anyone know? |
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 MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
1 edit | Woot! Yay for semantics! As long as the product has the keywords I'm looking for, I'll buy.
edit: Spelling. Thanks WernerSchutz  |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to mob
Re: Yes! said by mob:People can safely know that they will be price gouged for only the newest tech. Telcos didn't need the ITU's blessing in order to price gouge. |
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Re: Woot! Symantec was not involved in this semantics over 4G issue. |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:6 | Now they're over-reacting in the other direction Overall, a good move by the ITU, but it takes more than a substantial capacity (speed) boost to make it a next-generation. It should have also evolved, somehow.
Essentially, today's so-called 4G deployments are evolved over 3G, so all is well. However, I disagree with the notion put out by the ITU that anything that is much faster is next generation.
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to kingofdsl
Re: The ITU made themselves irrelevant said by kingofdsl:They put the U.S. carriers in that position. They have no one to blame but themselves.
4G was always a marketing term anyway. It never was a technical term. The ITU made a mistake when they made a stink about 4G ads in the 1st place. |
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Re: So what's the going price.... probably... "that'a boy!" |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to ptrowski
Irrelevancy and the desire to not be? |
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said by ptrowski:To buy off the ITU? Anyone know?
The ITU is an arm of the UN. You know that, right? |
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join:2001-04-21
San Diego, CA
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1 edit | does it really matter what we call it? They where calling handsets with max speeds of 3.6Mbps 3.5G a few years ago. Now that HSPA+ has moved to 21Mb connections, i would clearly say it has improved 3g technology. Hell, even my t-mobile 3g connection went from 600kbps down to just under 7Mbps down.
And to be honest, i can really care less what they call it. Call it panther speed. whatever. lol Just like i don't care what comcast calls it's docsis 3 tiers. Tell me the details tell me the latency, the max speed, the cap, will i be throttled. And right now i will take my 3g t-mobile connection with 7.2Mb max speeds (my own hardwares max capability, not network) on its existing network vs. verizon's lte. If i want to match verizons 4g speeds, all it takes is one phone call to t-mobile. I'm eligible for a upgrade, to a 4g data card. done.
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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Re: So what's the going price.... said by fifty nine:said by ptrowski:To buy off the ITU? Anyone know?
The ITU is an arm of the UN. You know that, right? Yes. So your assumption is that of course companies could not have any effect on their decision making or in this case going back on a decision? |
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 NYR 56Premium
join:2000-12-05
Smithtown, NY | reply to djdanska
Re: does it really matter what we call it? said by djdanska:They where calling handsets with max speeds of 3.6Mbps 3.5G a few years ago. Now that HSPA+ has moved to 21Mb connections, i would clearly say it has improved 3g technology. Hell, even my t-mobile 3g connection went from 600kbps down to just under 7Mbps down.
And to be honest, i can really care less what they call it. Call it panther speed. whatever. lol Just like i don't care what comcast calls it's docsis 3 tiers. Tell me the details tell me the latency, the max speed, the cap, will i be throttled. And right now i will take my 3g t-mobile connection with 7.2Mb max speeds (my own hardwares max capability, not network) on its existing network vs. verizon's lte. If i want to match verizons 4g speeds, all it takes is one phone call to t-mobile. I'm eligible for a upgrade, to a 4g data card. done.
I agree with this. Although people here at DSLR love to kick and scream how these services aren't "technically" 4G, does it really matter? There should be a term to show that they are substantially better than 3G (and they are), so why not use 4G? The big, scary carriers needed a term, and the ITU failed to provide one, so they picked it themselves. Oh the humanity! |
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| hmm i still can't get my 3g connection on ATT to go past about 1.5 megs.....
can't wait to see their 4g. 3 megs? |
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Re: The ITU made themselves irrelevant I agree. Delivering 100Mbps as an avg performance for many dozens on one site is not likely in the foreseeable future. Advanced LTE and WiMAX 2.0 can do it but will there be enough spectrum for most carriers? Backhaul is a challenge too.
Requiring 100Mbps for 4G is not very realistic for many many a year. 4G may as well be 10Mbps to distinguish from previous 3G - and yes, it's OK to label HSPA+ as 4G if it looks like a duck. |
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| Okay what is 4G? I have to pay an additional 10.00 a month for the "Rich" content that 4g offers so I'd really like to know what 4G is. Sprint continues to charge 10.00 a month for this rich content but I'I have failed to see what value this "rich content" is. If there is no standard that defines 4G then the Telcos should be forced to retract any claims(and charges) that refer to 4G and stick to definitions and deliverables that are quantifiable. I too don't give a damned what you call it but if you're charging me money for IT you better be defining it clearly. |
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