 TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
join:2000-11-08
Da Bronx
 ·Optimum Online
 ·Clearwire Wireless
| I smell a rat! If the FCC isn't going to actually do ANYTHING, then these Router taps amount to nothing more than more spying by Uncle Sam!
What's the point of collecting data, when you are not going to use it for anything useful?
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| and those that applyd and where denied never know i applyd, did the speed test, and havent heard JACK from them. tryd to reapply since my speed upgrade and the stupid thing wont let me. |
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 netwirePremium
join:2001-04-27
Shelby, NC
kudos:1 | Ironic It is ironic that the FCC partnered with a firm called SamKnows... |
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 dks7
join:2004-05-31
Omak, WA | Screw the FCC just another way to SPY on everyone. |
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 Duramax08Win8 sucksPremium
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
·Millenicom
·Cricket Broadband
| reply to netwire
FFC and Uncle Sam knows what you be lurking at on the interwebs! :P
I signed up. Gona hook it up to my clear modem that I dont even use anymore. My clear internet is crap anyways.
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Re: I smell a rat! If they were going to inject spying software into the firmware, then they wouldn't do it this way. They'd inject it into the stock firmware at the manufacturer. Or, better yet, they'd monitor the backbones. Oh yeah, they already are.
My guess is that they're going to get the data back from these things and then report that, although bandwidth isn't always up to what's promised, it's close enough. Then they'll ask the ISP's to do better, the ISP's will say they'll try, and not a damn thing will change. |
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pbeaudetPremium
join:2005-03-02
Burney, CA | I have it Running My Samknows black box has been running for about a month. Frontier needs all the testing it can get. Whether this box will do it is an open question.
It consistently gets higher uploads and downloads results that other tests don't.
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Re: Ironic And you think they need these modded routers to do that??? If so, you haven't been reading the news for the past few years. Besides, as I said above, mailing out a relatively small number of routers isn't a very efficient way to do spying. You either inject your sniffer into the stock firmware at the manufacturer level, and/or you monitor the backbone (as they've been doing for at least a few years now). |
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Re: I smell a rat! I'm fairly sure that a government that has compliance of all major phone companies to deliver data/voice wholesale to the NSA don't need to inject crapware into a piddly 20k routers being tracked by a UK monitoring firm. |
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 koitsuPremium,MVM
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
kudos:19 | Why do they need to provide a router? Why can't this SamKnows group work with existing consumer router vendors (Linksys/Cisco, Netgear, D-Link, Buffalo, etc.) and provide the analysis data collection/distribution capability in all products?
It seems a lot easier to tell a customer "if you want to participate in this analysis, please upgrade your router firmware. Below is a list of models and what firmwares offer the option / what to adjust in the router".
I'm not going to ask "why are they being so secretive?", but it just seems like they're going about this incorrectly. Just like how I don't use routers given to me by ISPs, I sure as heck won't replace my router with one given to me by the FCC. But I *would* like to participate in the programme regardless.
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dks7
join:2004-05-31
Omak, WA | reply to ISurfTooMuch
Re: Ironic No they do not need these routers to do this, their incrementally garnering the publics support for their treason. You see to make treason work the average SHEEPLE must comply with it. It's just test after test after test. |
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mlelandPremium
join:2002-12-17
Westwood, CA | reply to pbeaudet
Re: I have it Running I am using Frontier DSL in Northeastern California as well and I did the speedtest\application at least 6 months before I heard they were even considering me.
I did just notice that 3 weeks after I setup the netgear box my dsl modem is now negotiating at a faster download and slower upload speed than it was before I setup the box. Hmm.... |
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Re: Why do they need to provide a router? For one, the incentive is the free router for many.
This is about broadband for all, not just techno geeks. J6P isn't going to know how to upgrade router firmware. |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000 | reply to ISurfTooMuch
Re: I smell a rat! said by ISurfTooMuch:Or, better yet, they'd monitor the backbones. Oh yeah, they already are.
Gotta love AT&T. |
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 leiboldPremium,MVM
join:2002-07-09
Sunnyvale, CA
kudos:6
 ·SONIC.NET
| Never received the box I did sign up when I heard of the program initially (seems like it might have been last year). Then earlier this year I got the message that the information I provided meant that I was qualified to participate in the program and gave me a link to do a performance test on my DSL line. At the successful conclusion of the test it stated something to the effect that a router would be sent to me. This was more than 6 month ago and I have yet to see a box. I have the feeling that SamKnows gets all the ISP performance data they need from the prequalification tests they ask users to perform. That is certainly cheaper for them then to actually send users a router.
If they send one now they are out of luck. I just switched to a different (cheaper, faster) provider this week and the new one is not on their list of ISPs.
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| cant do it I received an email today that I was accepted but I was reading the requirements and this one pretty much killed it for me
"You are not a heavy downloader. We'd classify anything above 30GB per month as being too heavy for us to gather useful results."
Otherwise I was going to give it a try and be a tester for them. |
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 tstolzePremium
join:2003-08-08
O Fallon, MO
kudos:1 | Operating as exptected. My box has been in for 6-8 weeks now, I have access to my stats and the router has operated as expected. |
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 Anonymous_AnonymousPremium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
kudos:2 | reply to TamaraB
Re: I smell a rat! Nothing more then a wire tap. |
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MadtownPremium
join:2008-04-26
Madera, CA | reply to morbo
said by morbo:said by ISurfTooMuch:Or, better yet, they'd monitor the backbones. Oh yeah, they already are.
Gotta love AT&T. ......and NSA too. |
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bizsar
join:2005-08-25
Beaverton, OR | everything nominal here...and no boogey-man I test wireless equipment for a living...there's no big scary Big Brother built into the firmware of the router...the conspirists can move back to the JFK issue or something...
Router working great, sending test data daily. I kind of wish it had been a D-Link .11n router instead of a Netgear, but oh well.
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