Work for who's left
I know there were a lot of people laid off because they wanted to slow down deployment.
...at least there is something for those who are left to work on.
Yahoooooooooooo! What speeds will we be able to purchase with bonded VDSL?
jack bGone FishingPremium,MVM
More open copper There are probably plenty of vacant copper pairs available, since so many people are going totally wireless, or using VoIP or Skype like services for a fraction of the cost of POTS.
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In reviewing your account, I see that DSL Basic service should be available at your address. However, you are at the very edge of DSL availability. You must be within 15 Kft of our equipment in order to subscribe to DSL service. You are at 14.920 Kft.
It'd be nice... ...if they could use it to provide fast path for those who want it, but somehow I doubt this will happen.
reply to Duramax08
Re: This is a old message i got from att AT&T should just shut their mouths and let their happy DSL customers speak for them. Wait ...
I'm in a small city of 150,000 that has AT&T as their primary DSL provider. I'd say less than 1/2 the city can get AT&T DSL speeds over 3mpbs, most under 1.5. Not advertised speed, actual stable download speed.
Yeah, the Three Mile rule means that unless you are within 1 mile of their central office, you probably aren't getting reliable service.
IIRC, we are about 2 miles out, and that means unstable speeds of 384k and huge slowdowns or shutdowns during peak hours.
After about 5-10 years of it with the service getting worse every year, we pulled the plug this year.
I've spent over $150,000 with AT&T (maybe twice that), and that's the best they can do as far as I can tell.
It's not enough.
ATT is going to keep plugging away at copper? Seems kind of dumb to me. meanwhile Verizon is rolling out Fiber that gives consumers 100mb symmetrical connections and laughing in their face. I understand they invested heavily into the copper field and want to try and get some kind of ROI but that aint going to happen no matter how hard you keep trying to push down that technology it's nothing but a stop gap and worthless.
reply to McRat
Re: This is a old message i got from att maybe you shouldn't do business with a business that offers what you appear to think is an inferior product.
reply to mind21_98
Re: It'd be nice... no kidding. i'd love that only 250ft from my vrad.
Sugar Land, TX
reply to McRat
Re: This is a old message i got from att 1.5 is blazing fast compared to what I can get in Houston (in a pretty busy semi-urban part of Chinatown, at that). Try speeds of 300 kbps - I frequently see download speeds plummeting to barely dialup levels (as in 10 kB/s). That is, if the connection is at all usable, which isn't about 20% of the time (a massive improvement from a few weeks ago). One in a blue moon, the connection will actually burst up to 80 KB/s ... but that's still less than half of my advertised speed.
How this is considered acceptable ... I don't know.
reply to brianiscool
Re: Yahoooooooooooo! The speeds won't change unless you were too far out to order at all before.
Then things might be better for you if you are in an area where they have extra pairs, the original engineering provided for those extra pairs to be dedicated to your home AND that those pairs actually make it all the way to your home and are defect free.
Soooooooo... Good luck!
reply to jack b
Re: More open copper Doesn't work that way though.
The pairs have to be dedicated to a house...you can't swap them around like you suggest.
reply to RiseAbove
Re: ATT is going to keep plugging away at copper?
said by RiseAbove:Obviously not...or they wouldn't be doing it. They are getting lots of takers on Uverse and it is the only thing (outside mobility/wireless) keeping the company profitable.
nothing but a stop gap and worthless.
I agree though...push the fiber out and they would have a more reliable service.
fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
reply to RiseAbove
100mb symmetrical is nice to "have" available, but at the price they want for it and that the industry wants to charge for it, AT&T is actually making a smart move.
With a smaller investment in bonded xDSL, they're spending less now and offering a service at which customers can use and take advantage of. 24mb isn't anything to sneeze at and will serve the purpose of customers very well for some time to come.
Comcast has their 50 and 100 meg service but who's going to pay comcast, in this economic environment of "cut back the monthly bills"... Meanwhile, AT&T is making a smaller investment int heir system, still making a killing on profit, sitting on a load of money in the process. Meanwhile, and yes I'm thinking sane here, AT&T could easily in the future take that pile of money and do an end run on everyone by doing a national deployment of fiber service IF they were smart. (ie: they're making higher profit margins now, save it, and have a better financial picture to make a HUGE stink later) If they were to do this, you know that tarnished reputation they have? ... improved over night. Most people are victims of the great American disease of "short term memory syndrome" and will forget about AT&T's past..
As it stands now, the phone industry is lauded by many people for their being "heros".. DSL was a lower cost, somewhat, and Verizon launched fiber. The younger generation tends to preference phone over cable because they were not part of the generation of phone customers who took it up the but to make calls. (Many younger generations forget that average phone bills just a decade or so ago were in the average price of $80+ a month)
Anyway... my statement above is predicated on the fact of AT&T actually making a smart move.. I won't hold my breath that they'd seize an opportunity because, well, they tend to look at numbers, and not the person's way of thinking in order to help gain maximum results. Part of business is thinking like your customer; a necessity in business.
But anyway.. like I was saying, having 100mb is one thing, they're still not doing much to see that customers will actually want to take it. It's more marketing than anything.I bet if you look at VZ's FiOS internet, the overwhelming majority of their customers still take their rock bottom tier with only a small handful taking higher speeds.
reply to mind21_98
Re: It'd be nice...
said by mind21_98:FastPath is not going to happen in the U-verse world. If you want FastPath then you need to go back to DSL.
...if they could use it to provide fast path for those who want it, but somehow I doubt this will happen.
I'm sick to death that that it will be years before U-verse comes to my town if it comes at all and that they still neglect to offer higher speeds to us DSL users if our loop can handle it.
Getting 5.8Mbps DS and 435kbps US sucks when your line can do so much more.
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It's a good thing that I'm not on an ADSL2+ DSLAM because I would be sick to death to know just how fast my line could be.
I have another line that is on an ADSL2+ DSLAM and it can sync at over 22Mbps. It makes me want to puke when I run a throughput speed test on that line and only get 5.8Mbps.
bdon78I didn't do it
I have Uverse I have Uverse 24 and Tv/Voip. Couldn't be happier.
Sounds like pair bonding won't boost my speed, but for my uses (gaming, streaming video) I'm fine on the 24 tier.
Just my opinion. (I'm also so close to the VRAD I can throw a rock and hit it...)
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Granite City, IL
reply to brianiscool
Re: Yahoooooooooooo! They started with the 24/3 profile (12/1.5 x2), I had heard they started that as a good test point.
I think what I would like to see is the ones that have the 90mbps max sync on the vrad and x2 on that one.
That could be quite interesting if you come to think about it.
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Still not available to me "We're sorry. Currently, AT&T U-verse service isn't available for the address associated with this phone number"
Mullica Hill, NJ
reply to fiberguy
Re: ATT is going to keep plugging away at copper? well Comcast is making a profit too, but the upside they have is that DOCSIS 3 gives them the speeds over the existing lines. id imagine the DOCSIS3 CMTS is just rackmount stuff that while not cheap is much cheaper than lots of line replacement and VRAD deployment. dont know if they have to replace the nodes or not though.
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ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
Michigan City, IN
We still have no U-Verse in sight here, AT&T is still rocking their early 2000s DSL speed tiers.