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3 edits | Re: Someone is in denial said by Karl Bode:I don't either. I use Netflix streaming via 360 almost exclusively. But understand we're simply in the (fairly vast) minority. We're also technically oriented, and not terrified of connecting a new, strange box to our television. True and it is only in its infancy state (5yrs or less for most (10yrs for me)). We will see it evolve and advance from the way it is now to the way it will become the standard.
At some point, you will be able to use a remote and switch a "Internet broadcast channel", just like you can for cable (people like to have something which they are a custom to)...
xBox 360 & some Blu-ray Players (built in Internet TV & Radio) are already out for example.
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| Re: Someone is in denial said by fifty nine:said by OldschoolDSL:I personally do not subscribe to paid TV because the shows I watch, I can get for FREE online (legally). But for how long do you think they'll offer those shows for free with few commercials? Not very long. It will be only a matter of time before they'll try to make it a subscription paid service and on top of that, we'll have commercials. With any luck, it maybe cheaper though (we can hope).
said by fifty nine:said by OldschoolDSL:At some point, you will be able to use a remote and switch a "Internet broadcast channel", just like you can for cable (people like to have something which they are a custom to)... Won't happen until the majority of cable TV settops are provided by the cable company. Most people choose the path of least resistance and rent a box from the cableco. True.
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The easiest way to discourage piracy is to make your customer feel they are getting their money's worth. Customer loyalty goes a long way.
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The reason the CEO's don't worry about it is because they are in control. As soon as it start to become more main stream and the rats start to jump ship to the internet TV and drop cable TV all together, you will see these CEO's change the internet usage price/fees. You will be priced out of getting your TV by the internet as it will just cost to much. Not only that but you may even have to pay both ends. That is pay for the TV channel/show and then internet service and usage (megs/month) charges.
It is only a matter of time and the time we all start to jump ship from standard cable TV is when it will happen. Trust me. I know.
Maybe in about 10 to 20 years when everyone has access to very high speed internet will all TV shift to internet delivery. By then the cable companies will be pushing everyone to it. | |
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Someone is in denial said by mmainprize:Don't hold your breath, you won't be enjoying that for to much longer. Oh, believe me, I've enjoyed either fair prices or piracy for over two decades and I will certainly continue to (I will admit, most of those 20 years were piracy, but that's just because fair prices weren't available). Even if internet connections are locked down so tight that no piracy can happen anymore, I will just go back to a group pooling its money buying a single copy and making copies or sharing it.
Sneakernet is unstoppable.
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| said by Karl Bode:I don't either. I use Netflix streaming via 360 almost exclusively. But understand we're simply in the (fairly vast) minority. We're also technically oriented, and not terrified of connecting a new, strange box to our television. My television has Netflix built in. I suspect all future high end TV's will eventually have internet capability. I plan to drop DirecTV HBO to recover more than my Netflix subscription cost.
My only concern is that my Comcast HSI bandwidth may be inadequate when we have 3 or 4 sets running Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, or whatever other service seems good at the time.
It appears Netflix can easily consume 1 GB per hour for just one set on a SD program. This may vary a lot depending on the device managing the stream. See - »Holy cow, Netflix really does use a lot of bandwidth ...
How will Comcast manage 200 families on a node each drawing 1-4 GB per hour during prime time?
I recall AT&T and Verizon scoffing at VOIP. Then along came Comcast Digital Voice, Vonage, and a slew of others. The same is going to happen to video content IMO.
I wonder, if we subscribe to a service which is located in another country and has servers outside the U.S., could they have different copyright rules? If so, which copyright rules apply when watching content they provide securely to my set? The future will at least be interesting.
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|  baineschile2600 ways to livePremium
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2 edits | Eh, this article seems like a David v.s. Goliath issue, but its really not. Obiviously, when big TV companies start to see a more significant revenue decreasing trend, they will try and get in on the action (eg. Comcast buying NBC), instead of halting it.
Big TV, for the most part, has adapted pretty well. Analog, Digital, adding products sucessfully (internet and phone), High Definition, DVR, etc. Every STB I have ever had has a CAT5 port on it, I am assuming for some sort of activation later.
I definitely expect an IP delivery of video service eventually, provided by big cable/fiber (along with some of their owned content as well, of course). | |
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| Re: Someone is in denial said by nasadude:the issue is going to be twenty-somethings in the next 10 years or so. Like what is being seen with landline phone service and younger people - no landlines, only cell phone. The paradigm shift was huge from landlines to mobile phones though. It is easy to get younger customers to buy in because mobile phones offer personal service. They don't have to worry about someone in the house listening in on their calls, they don't have to worry about what time of day their friends calls, with personal voicemail they don't have to worry about lost messages, etc. Add on the obvious features that you can take it anywhere and use it and it provides other services like text messaging and it becomes a slam dunk.
Mobile phones were the first truly portable phone number. Kids going to college could just take their mobile phone with them and keep their existing number as long as they had coverage.
Dropping of landline service is simply a matter of these folks realizing that they're paying for a mobile phone plus a landline, and realistically they don't need both. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Someone is in denial said by ITALIAN926:IF all ISP's dont add CAPS, in the long run, what will really happen? TV revenue for the incumbants go down, price for internet only lines go up. Simple common sense. This is way different than VoIP. Which eventually in the end will be a wash.
remember when $24.99 vonage was $24.99 out the door? now they're no better than the telephone companies with all the BS fees!
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kudos:3 | Re: Someone is in denial said by dvd536:Which eventually in the end will be a wash. remember when $24.99 vonage was $24.99 out the door? now they're no better than the telephone companies with all the BS fees! What are you talking about? I save at least a couple of hundred dollars a month using Vonage compared to POTS long distance. Or did you just ignore the outrageous long distance charges that POTS charges (+ THEIR "fees") with your silly comment?
$200 +/month or $33.00 w/"fees" (taxes)/month (including no limit international) = hmmm, let me see......no brainer.
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kudos:4 | said by La Luna:said by dvd536:Which eventually in the end will be a wash. remember when $24.99 vonage was $24.99 out the door? now they're no better than the telephone companies with all the BS fees! What are you talking about? I save at least a couple of hundred dollars a month using Vonage compared to POTS long distance. Or did you just ignore the outrageous long distance charges that POTS charges (+ THEIR "fees") with your silly comment? $200 +/month or $33.00 w/"fees" (taxes)/month (including no limit international) = hmmm, let me see......no brainer. Lets see: with cellphones LD is included!
i'm only talking about the crap BS additional pure profit type fees, not LD!
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If internet video starts cannibalizing revenue from traditional TV, you can kiss your "free" shows on those services goodbye. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Problem quote:
Sorry Revolutionaries: Internet Video No Threat To Regular TV
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| They will get there $$ no mater what And whom do you get your data connection from?
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Still many people in rural areas and even in some cities, broadband is not available or isnt enough for video streaming.
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2 edits | They must be talking backwards. Internet TV was a competitor ever since portable devices with 4" LCDs existed that could playback a show that could be downloaded on the average connection in 20-40 minutes.
Now televison can even be played on most people's cellphones.
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2 edits | Re: It's coming... but only when it's more convenient What's needed is for Apple and Google to kiss and make-up, then get an improved Apple TV device connected to Google's FTTH as the content provider/delivery mechanism.
It'll scare the living shit out of the cable & telco's.
Content creators will love it because they will get $0.25/episode from the consumer - instead of having to split the $1.50/month that the cableco pays for an entire channel with all the other content creators on that channel.
Apple will love it because they'll get their 30% cut on iTunes.
Google will love it because it weakens the cableco/telco's who complain that Google is getting a 'free ride on their tubes'. | |
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| | | | Re: It's coming... but only when it's more convenient said by MaynardKrebs:What's needed is for Apple and Google to kiss and make-up, then get an improved Apple TV device connected to Google's FTTH as the content provider/delivery mechanism. Google's FTTH that will only be in one mid sized city?
That'll sure scare all the major players to death. | |
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Whittier, AK | Did report consider those that last jobs? No jobs. no money for cable. | |
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| | | Re: Did report consider those that last jobs? said by caco:No jobs. no money for cable. You'd be surprised, but cable companies haven't lost that many subscribers because of job losses.
Unemployed people still make some money, and while they probably shouldn't, but they still pay a cable bill.
And even if the report did consider it, there'd be no money for Internet either, right? So it's not like a person that lost their job that couldn't afford cable would be able to afford broadband to try to watch TV shows. | |
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| | Cable and Telco shouldn't be allowed to be providers Unhappily they are the ones with the knife and cheese in their hands. They manage content and distribution and while this going on we, the customers, are left behind. We need independent ISPs using the available infrastructure... easy to say and difficult to implement BUT... we should go for it... TV will change when you can buy content from independent suppliers. As of today I have 300 channels and I only watch around 30 of them... all the others are plain BS that I need to buy to have what I want. The music industry already felt the issue of selling a full CD with just 2 good musics... Cable may go the same path but while they control everything it will be slow. It is time for the FCC to fight back. | |
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| | Specialty programming is the way If you want to make Internet TV work, you need to start by offering specialty programming that isn't available otherwise. I'd start with foreign-language channels. Here in Tuscaloosa, the Hispanic population is booming, yet Comcast only offers a couple of Spanish channels, and none are Univision, Galavision, or Azteca America. You can get them via satellite, but installing a dish can be a pain in an apartment. We also have lots of foreign students at UA, many from China, Taiwan, and India. These groups would be a prime audience for a service featuring programming in their native languages.
There are other niche services you can do. Sky Angel, which offers religious channels, moved from sat delivery to Internet delivery. Obviously, Netflix has been promoting the hell out of its streaming service, and there are rumors that Redbox may do something similar. And I can't imagine why adult services haven't embraced Internet delivery yet.
IMHO, the missing piece of the puzzle is a box that is service-agnostic, where the end user can easily sub to what they want and download the software needed to decode and play it. Naturally, it would have to be very simple to set up and use, but if you can do that, you can then get the needed hardware out to lots of people. No need to have a separate box for each service, which would put a damper on adoption.
Niche services are where Internet TV can gain a foothold. Once they get established, more mainstream offerings will pop up. | |
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Camden, TN | Oh really? If internet Tv is not a threat then why is every ISP trying to install caps and metered billing? Comcast even admits their caps are there to stop people from cutting the cable cord. yet they say it's not a threat. | |
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kudos:4 | Cord cutters if there were no worries about these, there wouldn't be caps on HSI! Online video *is* a threat on an uncapped internet connection!
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| Re: Cord cutters said by dvd536:if there were no worries about these, there wouldn't be caps on HSI! Because clearly Internet video is the only bandwidth intensive application out there? | |
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And Time Warner Cable doesn't actually have a cap, despite people still repeating over and over that they do.
And Verizon and AT&T don't have caps, but offer TV service...
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| no cable now or ever as someone who uses over the air DTV signals,
and has been regularly tempted to get cable TV,
I can confidently say that the additional content
I'm able to get with my cheap 3mb aDSL line, is
already enough to keep me off cable TV for good.
as ISP capacity grows (like from cheap Fiber ISPs)
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2 edits | I was at the NAB convention this week I was at the NAB convention this week and most of it was about streaming video. Several software providers have (or soon will have) encoders that will provide great video quality at very modest bit rates. Once IPV6 comes into wide usage (with it's inbuilt multicasting capability) then online TV will explode-UNLESS ISPs begin capping-as they seem to want to do.
I find it telling that while Frontier Telephone wants to charge consumers 200 bucks a month for 100 gB of CRAP 3000/768 DSL while in Hong Kong you will soon be able to get uncapped 1000 base T symmetrical service for under 30 dollars U.S. a month.
The USA is becoming a third world country Internet wise and it's COMPLETELY due to greed! | |
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| Re: I was at the NAB convention this week said by qworster:Several software providers have (or soon will have) encoders that will provide great video quality at very modest bit rates. This has been the case for ages. Remember RealPlayer, and how RealMedia streams were going to break open Internet video? Then it was WMV streams using MediaPlayer, now we're huge on Flash. Every year there is always some new groundbreaking codec that is going to break the Internet video market wide open. Marketing has to play this stuff off as new and groundbreaking because they're trying to, well, you know, sell stuff.
said by qworster:Once IPV6 comes into wide usage (with it's inbuilt multicasting capability) then online TV will explode IPv6 has nothing to do with this, other than you can get 1 metric ass-ton more multicast addresses. IPv4 has all of Class D address space for multicast, IPv6 has all addresses prefixed with FF. It still requires backbone support. Notice how the Mbone caught on? IPv6 solves none of the problems which halted the mass adoption of the MBone.
said by qworster:in Hong Kong you will soon be able to get uncapped 1000 base T symmetrical service for under 30 dollars U.S. a month. At what oversubscription rate?
said by qworster:The USA is becoming a third world country Internet wise and it's COMPLETELY due to greed! I forget, where is Google headquartered? How about Akamai? Where was Twitter developed? How about Facebook? The real power of the Internet is enabling functionality that wasn't possible before, not simply taking crap we already have today and converting it to IP.
The US already has several systems for delivering TV to homes. Changing the underlying delivery architecture doesn't change the fact that there still needs to be people out there developing content, and those folks are still going to want to be paid for their work. When it becomes cheaper to deliver content over the network, that's the point at which IP delivery of TV will start to gain major ground. | |
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| | ya. just another stupid thing. again. ya. please.
with making a huge ass campaign for over a year to make sure the idiots in America's asshole will maybe use the brain cells left in their head to realize that the Antennas that give them 5 free channels through airwaves will no longer work until they get a cable box...
then have to make a big deal into getting coupons for it... blah blah blah blah ....
but Internet TV is not going to be the next thing to take over regular cable ? ...
yeah, ... unfortunately even though that would be nice its not going to work any time soon. not with the morons that still think the Internet is something that happens when they fall out of their hammock over the "bayou" and it twists up inside their asses. ...
I really wish that was a joke and an over exaggeration. sadly , not really though 
Second. Doesnt really matter anyway right. the cable companies are still going to control online content plus TV content.
ITS ALREADY HAPPENING ! ( throttling, caping ) ... yeah , why .
its been said, sure just a theory, but its a strong possibility, and with the unethical and ridiculous excuses and/or reasoning through companies who make the decision to do these unecessary (yes) applications to a network and the services they are supposively providing "great" service to the customer ....
yep im rambling, but the informed people know what im saying by now  so ... ill just stop then =)
but yeah, another day, another article about crap, while the inevitrable happens anyway. even regulators cant do anything, when they can be bought or just absurdly -- that stupid --.
atleast for Canadas' CRTC =-(
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Camden, TN | Re: 6000 gigs of data says otherwise. said by markopoleo:said by nukscull :said by markopoleo:Thats just movies! I have not checked TV shows and music on WHS Because clearly, someone with 6+TB of storage at home is the rule and not the exception to the rule. Mmm most people I know have at least 1 TB of space. Its not that uncommon as you think, people stream from all different sorts. I don't think anyone has not burned a copy of a movie they get from netflix. That's illegal. Some people CHOOSE to follow the law. And most people make more than minimum wage so they can afford their content. Honestly if one has to copy a DVD that they can get at wal-mart for $5 well that's just sad. And perhaps they need to be getting another job for better education instead of sitting on the couch watching movies. | |
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: 6000 gigs of data says otherwise. quote:
That's illegal. Some people CHOOSE to follow the law
OH NOES! We wouldn't to do anything illegal now would we? Give me a break, who gives a shit. Do you have any idea of how many hundreds of movies I have from when I had Netflix and did 'Burn N Return'. And in a good portion of the movies I copied, I made a point to remove the FBI warning. FUCK THE MPAA!!!
A lot of these movies I never ended up watching as shortly after I canceled Netflix I got an HDTV and HD Upconversion DVD player. Since the burned DVDs were compressed to fit on a single layer disc, there was really no advantage in picture quality when watching on an upconversion player.
I used Netflix like a cheap twenty dollar whore, then I slapped it on the ass, smacked it across the mouth, called it a bitch and threw it to the curb. I used, abused and took advantage of unlimited DVD rentals. This was before they started to throttle, sometimes I'd do upwards of 50 movies a month on the 3 out at a time plan. I was working nights at this point, my mail would come around 10 in the morning, my uncle, who lives literally right around the corner from me would get his mail at around 1 in the afternoon. I'd get my three movies in the mail, copy them, then on my way to work drop them off in his mail box and they'd be sent out the same day they were delivered. I think I had Netflix for two years, give or take a monbth. | |
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| said by BF69:That's illegal. Some people CHOOSE to follow the law. And most people make more than minimum wage so they can afford their content. Honestly if one has to copy a DVD that they can get at wal-mart for $5 well that's just sad. And perhaps they need to be getting another job for better education instead of sitting on the couch watching movies. Once again BF69 you lack insight on a subject.
1. Education is not a problem, considering most "pirates" to you, are educated, as in some higher learning. Way to play the "only stupid people" and "only poor people" card.
2. I has NOTHING to do with cost, its about convince.
I swear you have no concept of this sort of thing in the real world. You go on and on about laws that have no merit in today's society. | |
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Glen Allen, VA | Digital Delivery I used to think digital delivery was decades away until I tried Netflix... Now I'm wondering why It's not here already. | |
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| | | Re: Digital Delivery said by R4M0N:I used to think digital delivery was decades away until I tried Netflix... Now I'm wondering why It's not here already. Because not everyone wants to watch an old selection of movies or TV series that are 1 season behind what is currently on TV.
Just a guess...
Also, if Netflix could suddenly offer new movies and new TV shows, they'd have to charge more. Do you really believe they wouldn't have to? | |
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Glen Allen, VA | Re: Digital Delivery said by skuv :said by R4M0N:I used to think digital delivery was decades away until I tried Netflix... Now I'm wondering why It's not here already. Because not everyone wants to watch an old selection of movies or TV series that are 1 season behind what is currently on TV. Just a guess... Also, if Netflix could suddenly offer new movies and new TV shows, they'd have to charge more. Do you really believe they wouldn't have to? It seems my post went waaaay over your head. Digital delivery is not Netflix.... Netflix makes use of it and does it very well. Taht's why it was used as an example. | |
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| | What everyone misses is... What everyone misses in thinking that broadcast or cable/satellite is going away is where are you going to get new TV shows if these mediums die?
Sure, right now, the tech savvy can grab anything they want for free and store it forever, or not. Or people with Netflix can watch past seasons of TV shows over streaming.
But what happens when a TV show doesn't have a place to broadcast? If it's not making money weekly from advertisements, no one is going to want to make a 30-minute or hour long weekly show that they'll package in a DVD boxed set a year from now.
No one has made a successful Internet only show so far. That's not to say it won't happen. But until that does, there is no proven reason for someone to want to make a show for Internet viewers.
If the shows on Hulu weren't broadcast on TV, they certainly wouldn't be on Hulu.
There will certainly be a shift at some point, no one can deny that. But expecting it to be soon or immediate is just not seeing the big picture. | |
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