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Comments on news posted 2009-06-30 13:19:27: If you recall, AT&T recently took heavy criticism for changing their wireless TOS to prohibit video streaming, then telling us those changes were a mistake before reverting to an older TOS that also banned streaming. ..

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S_engineer

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Whats the Deathstar going to do....

Once Apple sees the light and end its exclusivity rights . The cashcow will be out of the barn!
The wireless apps will be tied to contracts, there really will be no neutrality in any form from At&t
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Matt
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 It's simple really

What don't you guys get? MLB paid AT&T millions (or the other way around) and Sling paid nothing. So, in AT&T's eyes, it's perfectly fair.

Oh and just in case ... [/sarcasm]


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Re: Whats the Deathstar going to do....

I suspect that Apple is obtaining more customers (globally) with its current arrangement than it would by creating different builds with either AWS (T-Mobile) 3G or even more expensive CDMA 1x/EVDO ( ~ 12% global market vs GSM based).

The issue at hand is:
Streaming (eg YouTube, etc. vs Slingbox vs AT&T Uverse app vs. MLB).

Watch what happens when there's an MLB competitor that does the EXACT same thing (eg Hulu ?)
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Goober
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Re: It's simple really

I agree.

All apps are equal but some apps are more equal than others. --With apologies to George Orwell.


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NFL Sunday Ticket Mobile streamed on iPhone

Wonder what AT&T will have to say about NFL games streamed to an iPhone using NFL Supercast Mobile App for iPhone.

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»https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/s···e_mobile

New for 2009! SUPERCAST MOBILE: Watch games on your iPhone

Catch every game, no matter where you are.

Now you can enjoy every NFL SUNDAY TICKET™ game, every Sunday, live on your iPhone or iPod touch. The new SUPERCAST Mobile app — available FREE to all SuperFan customers — includes all the great features of the SUPERCAST computer application. So you can now enjoy live streaming video, highlights, scores and stats wherever you happen to be.
View system requirements
• iPhone or iPod touch with software v3.0 or higher
• Requires a strong Wi-Fi, Edge or 3G network connection for streaming
• NFL SUNDAY TICKET SuperFan subscription required for streaming
• DIRECTV customers must have a directv.com account in good standing
Experience football like never before.
If you call yourself a football fan, you need NFL SUNDAY TICKET™, available only on DIRECTV.

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ptrowski
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Very good point!


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Of course there is a double standard...

Slingplayer worked fine on my Nokia N95 and Blackberry Bold - both running on AT&T 3G network. I won't be buying the application for my iPhone so I don't care - but it's hard to accept what AT&T is saying - really translates to them believing that the Slingplayer userbase from iPhones would totally overwhelm the network, whereas the Slingplayer userbase of Nokia and Blackberry phones don't.

Note to AT&T - not everyone who has an iPhone has or has even heard of a Slingbox. 10 million iPhone users doesn't mean 10 million Slingplayer users.


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Re: It's simple really

said by Goober See Profile :

I agree.

All apps are equal but some apps are more equal than others. --With apologies to George Orwell.
I don't think you need to apologize to Mr. Orwell. Were he alive, I believe he'd find that a rather apt usage of his quote.


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Re: NFL Sunday Ticket Mobile streamed on iPhone

said by sonofjay See Profile :

Wonder what AT&T will have to say about NFL games streamed to an iPhone using NFL Supercast Mobile App for iPhone.

quote:
»https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/s···e_mobile

New for 2009! SUPERCAST MOBILE: Watch games on your iPhone

Catch every game, no matter where you are.


It all depends how much $$$$ they give ATT
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easy solution: jailbreak it

Then you can run or program any app you want
The jailbreakers will always be one step ahead of Apple


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Re: NFL Sunday Ticket Mobile streamed on iPhone

Considering that AT&T partners with DirecTV, it will get the rubber stamp apporval w/o even a thought.


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Will the real TOS please stand up...

So do all these ToS changes amount to something that would allow current users to end their contract without an ETF?

Just thinking that AT&T would probably take a pretty bad hit if all of a sudden millions of iPhone users left their contracts without paying an ETF, and then started up a new contract with a shiny, new, subsidized iPhone 3GS. Could this be an unforeseen loophole?
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Re: easy solution: jailbreak it

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Then you can run or program any app you want
The jailbreakers will always be one step ahead of Apple
This is akin to saying steal music because you don't agree with the price. It does nothing to address the underlying problem.


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The whole issue should be blamed on Apple. Since you are stuck using their App Store as the only legit way of obtaining software, you are allowing Apple to be manipulated by the carriers.

Windows Mobil, Symbian, Blackberry OS, etc. allow the user to install any App they want on the phone. The carrier has no say in what you do on YOUR device. This is why only iPhone owners are loosing out unless they jail break their phone.

The blame for this whole thing really rests with apple and their centralized "We decide what you can have" app store. No thanks. Would you buy an Apple Computer if you could only install Apps purchased for the Apple Store? Didn't think so. So why do you accept it on the iPhone?

Sprint is the most open carrier to letting you do what you want with your 5GB/month. I have been a customer for four years and have been happy the whole time.


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It does nothing to address the underlying problem.
It doesn't? I'm not so sure we'd have the DRM free, reasonably priced, a-la carte music purchasing options that we have if that industry wasn't competing with a five finger discount.
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atuarre
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What does it matter?

What does it matter? The same people complaining about this would be complaining when they got the bill $60.000 bill for streaming the game and then would tell AT&T they did not know.


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Re: easy solution: jailbreak it

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It does nothing to address the underlying problem.
It doesn't? I'm not so sure we'd have the DRM free, reasonably priced, a-la carte music purchasing options that we have if that industry wasn't competing with a five finger discount.
The push was more that people weren't buying multiple copies of music for each and every musical device, which is what the music industry wanted. While stealing music may have played a role, it was a small one.


S_engineer

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It may not address the problem, however it makes you sympathetic to the people that do it. Until we get informed, unpaid for regulators, this underlying problem will always prevail.
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Matt
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said by S_engineer See Profile :

It may not address the problem, however it makes you sympathetic to the people that do it. Until we get informed, unpaid for regulators, this underlying problem will always prevail.
I agree and I don't equate jailbreaking to stealing music. I would just hate to see people take the laissez-faire approach of, "Well, if I can jailbreak my iPhone, why should I care what AT&T allows?"


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I would just hate to see people take the laissez-faire approach of "Well, if I can jailbreak my iPhone, why should I care what AT&T allows?"
I completely agree with you on that one!

Point being, people are more likely to break the rules and not lose sleep over it if they feel they are being subjected to unreasonable restrictions. If people do it en masse, it gets attention and it might even have a positive effect. I think music piracy is an example of how rampant rulebreaking has actually lead to a better experience for legal buyers.
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