DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs: | 3 GB?
3 GB's ? The internet is going backwards. This cap shit is getting serious. |
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Opticwonders
Premium
join:2009-03-31
united state | I use more than that in an HOUR
Come on, I use more than that in an hour, never mind a month. Those caps are ridiculous. That isn't even realistic.
I'd like to know where they get their "statistics" from. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to DataRiker
Re: 3 GB?
said by DataRiker  :...The internet is going backwards. .... yep. the big boys (ATT, TW, Verizon, Comcast) are trying to take us back to the halycon days of the 50s, when men were men and telecom monopolies strode the earth.
if they have their way, there will never be a princess phone for wireless. |
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dlewis23
join:2005-04-18
Boca Raton, FL | 3 GBs
I've been up for about 2 hours today and have already used 2.68 GB.
I'm guessing this ISP would be a bad choice for me if I ever moved to Kansas. |
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dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
| $2.00 a gig is a steal... try $500 a gig overage
granted this is wireless but gouge is gouge:
AT&T datacard: 5 gigs included each additional KB $0.00048 thats $503.32 overage per gig... (1048576 x 0.00048 = 503.32)
Sprint datacard: 5 gigs included each additional MB $0.05 thats $51.20 overage per gig (1024 x 0.05 = 51.20)
$2.00 a gig while still crazy seems downright affordable compared to cutting the cord doesn't it? |
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| pathetic
That is a pathetic amount indeed. I still fail to understand what Apple has to do with any of it...
The blog itself could have "capped" the use of the word "Apple" and gone more in the direction of simply complaining about internet caps and media use in general...
No offense, but come on, you're not special just because you choose to spend more money on a shiny machine that does the same thing any other computer can, uses similar hardware, and happens to have a *nix based OS.
The issue is your internet service, not what you plug into it.
You could just as easily download 3GB in a day with a video game console, a netbook, or, as is apparent by the blog, your ego...  |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
1 edit | Check this out. I guess folks in Lawrence should plan ahead.
»www.sunflowerbroadband.com/bandwidth/
What do you charge for bandwidth usage?
Each level of Sunflower Broadband Internet has a set amount of bandwidth usage included. Additional bandwidth is charged at $2.00 for each additional gigabyte. You may buy additional bandwidth in advance at the following prices:
15 GB for $10.00 per month
50 GB for $25.00 per month
So standalone Bronze would cost you 17.95+10.00+25.00=52.95 and you get 53 GB
17.95+10.00+10.00=37.95 and you get 18 GB
Gold service
49.95+10.00+10.00= 69.95 and you get 65 gb
49.95+10+25=84.95 and you get 100 GB
Why does Sunflower meter bandwidth usage?
We do not meter bandwidth usage to increase profits, but we do it to keep rates down for the average Internet user. Our Internet rates are among, if not "the", lowest in the country for the speeds we offer. Usage metering allows us to invest in a network that gives the few high-end users the consistently high performance they demand without charging the average users for their bandwidth.
What about other providers who offer unlimited bandwidth?
Some providers allow all users to do whatever they want until the network slows down for everyone. What good is unlimited bandwidth on a slow network? Other network providers slow down high-end users, implement hard limits or even kick them off their network. We welcome high-end users to our high-end speed. We let them choose how much bandwidth they need and then we let all users monitor their bandwidth through My Broadband. We know our bandwidth usage meter is the best way to maximize value for all customers.
A+ for effort. Time Warner needs to hire away Sunflower's PR folks.
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astroboi
@rr.com
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banditws6
| Health club model
The ripoff health clubs discovered this business plan decades age: You sell a membership, then quickly sell the contract to a bank at a discount. Now the sucker owes the bank, not the health club. After a few sessions the sucker is fed up with the gym because he didn't instantly lose weight or get big and strong. So he quits going there but must still pay. So the club has 10000 customers, 1000 of which use the club once a month and 100 that go in every day. Eventually they try to get rid of the 100 guys that actually work out. And its legal.
ISP's must have looked at the gym rather wistfully, 10000 saps paying full price while costing them almost nothing. Now they have their own "health club" by strapping the suckers into contracts they cant get out of. And be sure; there are people out there that buy internet access and never use it. Their computer breaks down or their kid goes off to school and the usage stops. These are the people that bring down the average. Yeah, I imagine 50% of their customers actually DO use less than a gig. Maybe 25% use ZERO gigs. Who knows?
Maybe there will be more and more 200 dollar a month "business" accounts sold. Or more trips to the free library wireless zone. Maybe we should give up downloading and take up a sport. Or join a health club. |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
 ·voip.ms
·RoadRunner Cable
| I didn't just fall off the turnip truck.
If so many of their customers aren't using their service, and are just happily sending them money each month for nothing, then what's the problem?
If it is true that half their customers are using less than 1 gb per month, I think they should be calling the fire department to check on them. They may be deceased in their homes with nobody knowing.
But to say that 1gb, 3gb or 10gb is plenty, is a bunch of nonsense and they know it. Just updating one computer regularly with McAfee's superdat antivirus updates can set you back at least a gigabyte a month. Doing regular Windows updates can do the same. One can use their monthly cap without even visiting a website or watching some YouTube.
What have these guys been drinking? |
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dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO | reply to amungus
Re: pathetic
I think iTunes is what apple has to do with it. Let's say each HD movie is 3 gig in size...lets say you download 2... that means now your 8 dollar movie rentals are really 14 dollars on the isp in the article. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Anyone know if this is true?
-- We have raised our limits many times and will continue to. Not because of competition but because average use is increasing, and our... bandwidth metering is meant to help us manage high capacity users (top 10%) without impact to the majority of our customers.
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ScottMo
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-15
Stony Brook, NY
| reply to Opticwonders
Re: I use more than that in an HOUR
The 3GB cap is aimed at low-use people. It only costs $17.95 per month at 1.5 Mbps speed.
The high cap package is $49.95, works at 20 Mbps and has a bigger cap of 50 GB.
Additional blocks of 15GB can be bought in advance for $10. The $2 per GB overage cost is there only if you go over the allotted amount without buying a block.
While still a cap, its not as onerous as the story made it out to be:
3GB cap! $2/GB overage! The end is near! |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| reply to nasadude
Re: 3 GB?
If we had more competition this would not be happening. We just have to figure out how to get it. I guess it could be like one cableco one telco and one coop fore each area. The cable could use docsis3 telco could use FTTH and the coop could use FTTH(no one says there cannot be more than one) LTE or Wimax. |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| reply to JSRoman
Re: Check this out. I guess folks in Lawrence should plan ahead.
said by JSRoman :Why does Sunflower meter bandwidth usage? We do not meter bandwidth usage to increase profits, but [...] Translation: Sunflower is not pissing on your leg and telling you that it's raining. Rain is a frequent occurrence over your Internet connection and we feel the need to tell you that we're just managing our network.
/sarcasm
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to nasadude
Re: 3 GB?
And while you're at it, demand to be connected to a WHITE person while you strike up a Lucky. Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco! It's stimulates your "T" zone. I mean "C" Zone!
Wow, that's a lot of leg for a 50's ad.....
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Opticwonders
Premium
join:2009-03-31
united state | reply to ScottMo
Re: I use more than that in an HOUR
3GB is still very low. Even just reading text on CNN.com can be bandwidth consuming because of video and flash advertisements. I think 15GB would be a much more realistic cap, but even then thats still small =/ |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to ScottMo
said by ScottMo :While still a cap, its not as onerous as the story made it out to be Welcome to the DSLR propaganda machine! |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Meh
Yes, the caps are ridiculous. I don't want TV so 'net access would be ~$30-$60 for me for 3-50GB. I would *have* to buy another 50GB pack over the regular plan because I actually want to *use* my connection. So $85 for 21 Mbps or so...nice speeds, crappy pricing.
Then again, 50¢ per GB on overages is not too bad. Better than $1 or $2 elsewhere. Just make sure to buy your overages beforehand; they're cheaper than the normal plans, and MUCh cheaper than buying each GB.
SFB has upped their limits; this is evinced by their stats. Their tiers used to be 1GB, 10GB and 40GB in April '07. Now they're a bit bigger so grandma doesn't use her $17.95 plan just by doing Windows updates. Which 3GB actually is more than enough for if you use one computer, which that plan is focused on.
Don't get me wrong, the plans are still crappy, and SFB AT LEAST needs to update their stats to April '09 to show people who's REALLY using over their limits. But at least they give you a 50¢ per GB overage option. |
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Wizeguy
join:2008-08-23
Safety Harbor, FL
| They are laughing in your face....
As I come into my golden years I am looking at what will be going when I retire.
1) The gym membership. I'll have more time for daily walks and there is a park not far that has work out stations all free.
2) The Broadband ISP. I can walk down to Main St and sit at the outdoor tables @ Starbucks or the local Internet Cafe and get free wi-fi. With a Yahoo e-mail account I don't need no stinkin ISP. I can do everything I need to do and all I have to do is buy a lousy cup of coffee.
3) Back to basic cable, get rid of the DVR the HD Channels I can live without seeing the actors bad complextions.
No one is going to stop these guys until the Government steps in and then you will hear screams about socialisim so get used to be nickeled and dimed to death.
The bueauty of this I live in Flora-duh where I really don't have to worry about winter. |
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Mellow
Premium
join:2001-11-16
Salisbury, MD
 ·HostGator
·Cavalier Telephone
| *Bandwidth usage based on April 2007 actual usage.
Surprised that no one else has mentioned that they are using old data to set their caps, karl even mentioned it. Their website is still living in 2006.
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