winsyrstrife
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This data regarding lower prices in relation to competitive markets is utter nonsense. |
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XBL2009
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Chicago, IL |  When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford?
I want to wake up one morning and read that at&t and Comcast have gone bankrupt. |
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TKJunkMail
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2 edits | said by XBL2009  :When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford? I want to wake up one morning and read that at&t and Comcast have gone bankrupt. And exactly how will that get you broadband you can afford?
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me1212
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Pleasant Hill, MO | More proff that we need competiton.
Those in a monopoly area pay $44.70 on average, and those with 4+ pay $32.10 on average. Thats over $12 less a month. |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit |  If BB rate is up & prices up; then prices aren't too high
If the rate of broadband adoption is up & rising while prices are up, then I guess that is proof that prices aren't too high. In fact prices should be raised in order to maximize profits.
1st rule of a successful business:
- keep raising prices until your growth rate slows and your customers start going to competitors.
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DaveNJ
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New Jersey | upcoming inflation
I want to see how this winds up when inflation hits in the fall. We are going to see the biggest inflation ever seen. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: More proff that we need competiton.
said by me1212 :Those in a monopoly area pay $44.70 on average, and those with 4+ pay $32.10 on average. Thats over $12 less a month. And if that disparity in prices persists that will draw in competitors to the overpriced areas.
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XBL2009
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Chicago, IL
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Re: When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford?
said by TKJunkMail :said by XBL2009 :When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford? I want to wake up one morning and read that at&t and Comcast have gone bankrupt. And exactly how will that get you broadband you can afford? If there was a real competitor to cable and telephone neither at&t or Comcast could get away with the price that they charge. Those fat profits that they are hording now would disappear.
Imagine 100mbps for $25 instead of $155!!!!
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sousademiami
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Hialeah, FL | reply to DaveNJ
Re: upcoming inflation
As someone who just bought a house, let me say: Bring on the inflation, baby!
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TKJunkMail
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Re: When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford?
said by XBL2009 :said by TKJunkMail :said by XBL2009 :When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford? I want to wake up one morning and read that at&t and Comcast have gone bankrupt. And exactly how will that get you broadband you can afford? If there was a real competitor to cable and telephone neither at&t or Comcast could get away with the price that they charge. Those fat profits that they are hording now would disappear. Imagine 100mbps for $25 instead of $155!!!! But that doesn't answer the question on how AT&T & Comcast going bankrupt will bring more competition.
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jmn1207
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Re: If BB rate is up & prices up; then prices aren't too high
It could be more complicated than that if one considers that perhaps broadband service is becoming more of a necessity for an increasing number of people. It's certainly far from clean water or electricity, but each year we get closer to seeing broadband becoming a crucial service for a growing number of people. Broadband is becoming a very important resource for an ever increasing population, and possibly these corporations are simply reaping the benefits and taking advantage of the situation?
Perhaps the supply/demand model is not perfect when considering that a percentage of this growth is based off need and not merely privileged convenience. The price may not have as much of an impact than it otherwise would if this were exclusively a luxury service. This is one of the biggest issues when dealing with a service that falls somewhere between a comfort and a requirement, as dictated by individual circumstances. |
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S_engineer
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Re: When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford?
said by XBL2009 :I want to wake up one morning and read that at&t and Comcast have gone bankrupt. That will only exacerbate current problems. However, since a significant number of the megacarriers have proven that they neglect forecasts about growth, maybe it's time to regulate broadband as a utility which would serve several purposes.
1) the neccesity for raises in rates could be verified through an independant PUC type of body. At a time when the delivery of broadband is dropping, carriers could even be doing upgrades with prices remaining stagnant.
2) define the implementation or size of a cap as cost to also be verified through the regulatory body.
Smaller ISPs could even get help via the gov to bring them to par if the gov were to set the bar too high.
Now, I'm not a big fan of gov jamming regulations down businesses throats. But alot of these companies left on their own gouge worse than any oil company could ever imagine. And if nobody tolerates oil companies gouging, then why is TW gouging acceptable?
These are ideas that alot of you won't like, so if you've got better I'm all ears.
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winsyrstrife
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It might for a short time. Some local competitors which have been strongarmed by AT&T / Comcast may be able to provide profitable services once those entities are gone.
More likely than not, however, they would also begin raising prices at an abnormal rate, once they've settled into their role as the primary game in town.
Meet the new boss. 
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markofmayhem
join:2004-04-08
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I have always, always been against government intervention of commodities. I still see broadband as a commodity, but my view on its delivery has changed very much over the last decade. I actually agree that information deliery should be a utility. I am quickly agreeing that the government should pay for, instal, and maintain a FTTH network that private corporations can sell products "on". I agreed with the notion in the '40's and '50's that public funds should promote and up-keep a national road system for the flow of goods to promote capitalism. I believe the "internet" should be our generation's Eisenhower Interstate. |
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badtrip
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Re: upcoming inflation
said by sousademiami :As someone who just bought a house, let me say: Bring on the inflation, baby! Be careful what you ask for...
Are you sure that the "decrease" in the amount that you owe will offset the increase in cost of every single thing you buy? |
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markofmayhem
join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
| The inflation predicted this fall will be due to a combination between increased prices for goods and decreased income. A house worth more is only worth more at time of sale: either to a buyer or a bank. Both have reduced interest in buying this fall. Inflation this fall is going to do nothing but raise your taxes, your milk, your gas, your etc... In fact, I heard one economist state inflation will be so bad this fall we may begin taxing volumes of oxygen consumed. |
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XBL2009
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Chicago, IL | reply to XBL2009
Re: When will we get real broadband at prices we can afford?
Going bankrupt doesn't always mean you go out of business.
It just means you don't get to roll around in obscene profits while refusing to upgrade your lousy over priced service. |
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sousademiami
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Re: upcoming inflation
What I do know is that inflation is reflected in the increased cost of goods, which is the result in an increased cost of labor, which is where I get my income. So yes, in the long run, I welcome it.
Inflation and deflation can both be good or bad, depending on how you situate yourself in the market.
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FunnyBones
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upcoming deflation..  |
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sonicmerlin
join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: More proff that we need competiton.
It can't, not with franchise agreements in place. Not to mention the large carriers have economy of scale on their side. |
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