baineschile
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God forbid I want to hear music from an artist that ISNT signed with Universal. |
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Matt
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Isn't Napster like $9.99 a month for ALL labels? |
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espaeth
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| said by Matt  :Isn't Napster like $9.99 a month for ALL labels? $5 a month for streaming audio, and that includes 5 MP3 downloads a month for songs you can permanently own.
The new Napster plans are a pretty darn good deal. |
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deadzoned
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Wow, that is a pretty expensive price to pay to get access to a limited catalog of music that will be monitored by the Entertainment Industry using "third party tools". |
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BBBanditRuR
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| Disconnects?
Virgin will temporarily ("a few minutes to a few hours") disconnect P2P users who don't play along with the idea, but Virgin won't be tracking P2P usage themselves. Instead, the entertainment industry will do the monitoring "using third-party tools designed to track P2P transfers." Virgin says they're engaging in "suspension" not "disconnection. Wha?
They are disconnecting users and claiming they aren't engaging in disconnection policy?
Why does this seem fishy, like the RIAA forcing Virgin's hand, or the media conglomerates getting their way with ISP's being net-nannies. Napster, Amazon, Rhapsody etc... have good plans or deals for music. Sure this one's unlimited, but really, where's the deal besides getting booted. What if you P2P legit stuff? Do you still get booted? I'm just confused to where the deal really is. This certainly doesn't seem to benefit the ISP or the consumer. |
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damonlab
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Why exactly would people choose to pay for this instead of using youtube for free? |
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Re: Expensive
said by deadzoned :Wow, that is a pretty expensive price to pay to get access to a limited catalog of music that will be monitored by the Entertainment Industry using "third party tools". Yeah but the labels doesn't know anything else *but* expensive.
Look at the price of a CD.
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| Phooey
My tastes in music not really main stream. iTunes rarely has stuff I am looking for, Neoclassical, Cello metal, symphonic black Metal, new age, synpop, electronica, Fusion jazz, world fusion etc. These all you can eat plans don't cover me.
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| No Judicial Oversite
 Let's see, if a subscriber does not pay an outrageous monthly fee for using P2P, the entertainment industry will file a complaint with the ISP to have their service disconnected without judicial oversight.
I guess that Virgin is going to play the same game as the Parasites at the RIAA using their shake down demand letters. Spend $10,000.00 or more defending your innocence in civil court or pay us our discounted shake down price. The RIAA's M.O. is that the subscriber is guilty until they prove their innocence. The fair thing to do is require the entertainment voles to pay a broadband subscriber say $100,000.00 plus attorney fees if the monitoring agency is found to have made a false accusation. That will be a good way to force the entertainment industry to improve accuracy before a complaint is filed.
By the way do not forget to send the entertainment parasites a check if you listen to music over the radio. |
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jmn1207
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Re: Disconnects?
Last I heard, Rhapsody was not available outside the US, and that is a shame.
I pay an annual subscription fee and absolutely love the service. I would have spent over $2000 per year to enjoy the same number of songs with something like Amazon or iTunes.
I used to record all of the songs so that I could then make CD's for my car and listen to music away from the computer, but now my MP3 player can be used in my car and I have an HD DVR that can play my Rhapsody library through my entertainment system.
It's the perfect solution to find new music. I've had all my old favorites for years on CD, and I still listen to some of this music through Rhapsody, but mostly I am interested in hearing new things and discovering genres and artists that I would not otherwise be able to find. Being limited to an exclusive label would seem far too restricting. |
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BBBanditRuR
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Parachute, CO | reply to Mr Matt
Re: No Judicial Oversite
No kidding. My point exactly. No due process. No way in hell I'm going to believe the validity of the so-called data collected from 3rd parties. |
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jchambers28
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how about FREE! |
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funchords
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Re: Napster
I just checked out Napster with two groups that I thought I might not find (The Blenders and Cadence) -- they're there! I'm impressed!
Is everything that is available via search available as a downloadable MP3 track?
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I'll stick with Zune Pass. For 14.99/month I get unlimited downloads, plus 10 freebies each month...essentially paying 4.99/month for unlimited downloads from Major and Indie labels.
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Re: Napster
said by funchords :I just checked out Napster with two groups that I thought I might not find (The Blenders and Cadence) -- they're there! I'm impressed! Yeah, their library is surprisingly complete. There has been little I've been unable able to find in their library -- even what I would consider to be somewhat obscure stuff like short orchestral / choir scores like The Immediate - Trailerhead disc. (scores written to be used in movie trailers, awesome for making videos)
When I was in Vegas last year I was given tickets to Cirque Du Soleil Mystere, and even the live CD from that show was up for download on Napster.
said by funchords :Is everything that is available via search available as a downloadable MP3 track? Yeah, everything you can search on is available to be downloaded / purchased from Napster. The only minor frustration is that some songs are only streamable as 30 second clips due to record label shenanigans, but all those tracks remain purchasable either for $0.99/ea or one of the track credits.
The only gotcha with the $5 plan is your 5 downloads expire every month if you don't use them. For that reason I signed up with the 12 month plan, you get 70 download credits (60 standard + 10 bonus) and you get a year to burn through them. |
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progrocktv
join:2009-04-27
| I can see it now...
...Virgin disconnecting downloaders of “legal” tracks of non-Virgin or non-Universal artists and citing “Piracy”. How will Virgin track these and filter out which files are legal(I’m afraid though the above will ring true and anything not put out by these two labels will automatically be tagged as “Illegal”) |
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funchords
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Washington, DC | reply to espaeth
Re: Napster
There ya go, Virgin & Universal, that's the way to do this. |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON | reply to jchambers28
Re: better idea
I'll stick with my Usenet + SSL for all my digital needs, thanks!
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bronxlcsw
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Bronx, NY | reply to progrocktv
Re: I can see it now...
Hmmmmmm..... unlimited downloads from Napster as streams? Can these streams be "intercepted" by say a program like Tunebite and re-recorded as unprotected mp3 file?? |
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asdfdfdfdfdfdfdf
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| The original "virgin music unlimited"/playlouder initiative
that was cancelled, at the last minute, earlier this year was a better approach.
Why do they have to "launch a service"?
It sounds like the industry still wants to control servers.
They should just license p2p use in exchange for a monthly fee and let the customers carry their distribution cost. In return the customer could use any software and any format they want and there wouldn't be this continued nonsense of trying to obliterate p2p. This would have been more like the initial approach. Of course the industry balked at the last minute and has now come out with something that I am much more suspicious of and find much less compelling, not to mention that only universal appears to be part of it.
Is this going to turn into $20 per month per label with continued assaults on p2p and attempts to threaten users?
I don't see how people can like this idea and dislike the far superior collective licensing of p2p approach. |
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