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tenpin784
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hooray

no more advertisements for the transition.

I can't believe how many people still lined up though and we're clueless when they didn't have TV Saturday morning.
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Mactron
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Yawn...

Yup, the Sun came up this morning too.
Sooo glad it's over. Carry on with your life folks.
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dforan

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Willoughby, OH
World Ending

Nor did it end on January 1 2000

Oh well move on


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Its amazing

That people didnt know about this beforehand. You think with all the advertising and family members that take care of their elders, this wouldnt be as big of an issue as it was at all.

We have the DTV box for Grandma Baineschile back in Dec 2008


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reply to tenpin784
Re: hooray

said by tenpin784 See Profile :

no more advertisements for the transition.
Now our local stations are running crawlers with phone numbers/websites if you are getting poor digital reception. It just doesn't end.
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Typical FCC calls

Consumer: My TV stopped working!!! They're telling me I have to buy a converter box or something?
FCC: Yes, that is correct. Go out and buy a converter box. They cost around $50. If you really can't afford that, we have $40 coupons available.

Consumer: I have a converter box but I lost half my channels!!!
FCC: Please hit the rescan button. kthxbai

Seriously, they could have done this with an IVR... no humans needed.

Even my technically challenged mom who can't figure out how to send an email on a good day was able to get her converter box going, as well as set up a rabbit ears on her 50" LCD and get all the stations.

sonicmerlin

join:2009-05-24
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Great

"Both WiMax and LTE will offer about the same DSL-ish speed (5-6 Mbps), but bitrates could grow to 15 Mbps by 2012."

That's just sad. Places like Sweden have already defined 4G as 100 mbit/s, and will have ubiquitous coverage by 2012.

Of course in America the cartel of the Big 4 are allowed to underserve its customers while lagging behind the rest of the developed world all in the name of profit. Yay for corporate America.


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reply to alg
Re: hooray

said by alg See Profile :

Now our local stations are running crawlers with phone numbers/websites if you are getting poor digital reception.
I see nothing wrong with that. Many broadcasters had no way of knowing how well or how poorly things would work out until after the switch.
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battleop

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At the stroke of midnight I lost NBC and ABC.

I thought I would watch the analog transmission to see if they might do some sort of good by transmission before the cut the power. At midnight the local ABC station just went dark. I tired the digital station and it was not there either. I rescanned and now I can't get the NBC or ABC local station like I could before midnight. It's no real big deal since I have some HD boxes from Direct. I just liked to watch the local feed of some network programs because the OTA picture looks much better than the compressed signal coming from Direct.


richdelb
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Rescan

I have cable, so, for the most part, this didn't matter to me at all. I do still have a house antenna hooked up (as a backup that I have never needed) and a digital tv. I "rescanned" for OTA channels and, as it turns out, I got my local ABC affiliate (WLS-DT 7.1) to "tune in" for the very first time. (I live pretty far from the city). That channel was the only one of the "major network" channels that I was unable to get OTA before the "official" cutover, so there is actually some improvement.

Like I said, I have cable, so this is just a backup, but its nice to see that I can get all Chicago channels.

sonicmerlin

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reply to tenpin784
Re: hooray

Most of the people who weren't prepared were the elderly. It's kind of hard to blame them for not being up to date with the technology world.

Most of them probably don't even care.


tschmidt
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reply to pnh102
There are a lot of "nightlight" services. Some broadcaster's did not shut off analog cold turkey. As of Saturday analog channel is dedicated about programs about DTV conversion. I think that is a nice touch. Rather then get a blank screen viewer gets information about conversion.

»www.televisionbroadcast.com/article/82376

All in all seems to have gone pretty well. Being in a fringe area we lost several stations that had been snowy in analog that only come in once and a while on digital. This is with a high quality outdoor antenna.

/tom



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reply to battleop
Re: At the stroke of midnight I lost NBC and ABC.

If you used to get digital but cannot get it now even after rescanning most likely station moved digital from temporary UHF channel to permanent VHF assignment.

Do you have a VHF/UHF antenna?

If you have not already done so plug your address into TVfool site to see what stations are available in your area.

/tom


Matt
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Keep in mind that digital signals are now directional. For example, in my area most stations transmit from 160 degrees or so, but NBC's digital tower is somewhere in the high 200 degree range, so you'll need a multi-directional antenna.

Also, the stated reception limit for most indoor antennas is 15 miles. I was able to get all local stations, some of which were out to 20 miles or so, but the NBC station I reference had a listed distance of about 35 miles and I was not able to receive it with an indoor antenna.

Da Man

join:2008-05-08
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reply to sonicmerlin
Re: hooray

The elderly were the most ready.

n2ubp

join:2007-07-13
Middletown, NY

 Sad things about the digital transition...

Sad things about the digital transition...
FEMA expects volunteer fire departments to fix little old ladies digital TV reception problems.
The digital transition did nothing to improve the quality of the programming, just the picture quality.
Too many subchannels are being filled with tripe, infomercials, tele preachers looking for money in five different languages.
It is still a waste of bandwidth.


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UHF Ch. 26 Chicago Sign off

For those who are interested, channel 26 chicago did a sign off show. This is the last part. Posted in the Chicago forum, and possibly in avsforum too. I am fairly sure that channel 26, wciu is the last major independent station for chicago.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SbizfeDRYQ

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tschmidt
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reply to sonicmerlin
Re: hooray

said by sonicmerlin See Profile :

Most of the people who weren't prepared were the elderly.
As Da Man See Profile posted that is an unwarranted prejudice. The over 65 crowd was very well prepared.

/tom

jimk
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reply to battleop
Re: At the stroke of midnight I lost NBC and ABC.

When some stations changed frequencies, they had to reduce their transmit power per the FCC for any number of reasons, such as going back to VHF, other nearby stations on the new frequency, etc. They weren't really able to test this before the transition.

Also, some temporarily are running at a significantly reduced power and possibly a different location, which is reducing their coverage. These stations have to re-configure their broadcasting equipment, move antennas around on the towers, etc. Not an easy task, and would cause an interruption (reduced coverage) to someone no matter when it was done - some did it before, some did it after. It is probably less expensive to do it after when you can rip all the old analog stuff out at the same time, so I can certainly understand why stations would do it that way.

Two Raleigh area stations are having signal problems and both are addressing it on their web sites. The FCC web sit also shows if the station has any construction permits to change their power or broadcast location, even if it is just moving up higher on the tower.

Still, it would have been nice to see the ones that knew they were going to have problems post something in advance. All they had to say was that they weren't going full power for a month or two and to expect some issues until they are finished.


Matt
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said by jimk See Profile :

Still, it would have been nice to see the ones that knew they were going to have problems post something in advance. All they had to say was that they weren't going full power for a month or two and to expect some issues until they are finished.
Fox 8 WGHP in the Triad area also has this issue. They've been running ads about it for months thankfully.
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