battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | LOL
FTA:
Comcast claim: FiOS fills up its HD on Demand library with recycled Internet content including hundreds of two minute videos like “How to Fold a Towel” and “How to Boil Water.”
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CycloneGT
join:2001-11-15
Boyds, MD
1 edit | hehe, that is pretty cheesey.
Of course Comcast has their fair share of "HD Choices" that they use in ads, pretending that they are equivalents to HD channels.
So while Dish, DirecTV, & FiOS each have pushed their number of HD channels over 100, Comcast just considers HD OnDemand selections (such 60 episodes of the Sopranos) to be the same as 60 HD channels.
Oh well, a educated consumer should see right through that. |
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KevNYC
Premium
join:2002-03-31
Seattle, WA | Yea and the best part is it never changes. They update the OnDemand selection like once every 3 months. |
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flashcore
join:2007-01-23
Lutherville Timonium, MD
1 edit | reply to CycloneGT
You forgot to mention, Concast's "HD Choices" AKA VNOD (Video NOT On-Demand) only ever works from 3-5AM (From my experience and many other people I have spoken to). If you try to use it at any other time your most likely going to be disappointed because they do not have enough bandwidth to handle more then 5-10 VOD streams at a time and there usually always full.
Now as for Verizon, I have not once encountered a VOD show that I could not watch whenever I wanted. There shows are always available On-Demand and the quality is 1000% better then anything Concast ever gave me. While it may be true that Verizon does not have as much as Concast at least Verizon is able to keep there system available to anyone who wants to access it. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| Verizon Counterclaim
If anyone who has FIOS TV can back me up on this I'd be quite happy.
Comcast's On-Demand service is so damn slow that it is practically useless. You can just throw a DVD in the player and watch the whole movie before Comcast's On-Demand service is even done loading.
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
1 edit | I use the Comcast VOD all the time. Never had a problem with it.
:edit for clarification: |
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Ted Sheckler
join:2009-01-17
Aurora, CO | Comcast loses in HD
Comcast HD lineup in Denver is HORRENDOUS! And the quality is degreded to the point where it might as well be SD. DirecTV wins (no FIOS here) |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to pnh102
Re: Verizon Counterclaim
With my Scientific Atlanta HD DVR and SERA guide, my first attempt at connecting to Comcast's VOD service resulted in a lengthy pause followed by a complete reboot of the cable box. After that it generally worked ok, but it took nearly 10 minutes to get up and running with a video.
I also have similar issues with Verizon in that I am not able to use VOD services during prime time. Consequently, I never use VOD because it has always been such a disappointment, with either Comcast or Verizon. It is poorly implemented at this time, and it needs a serious overhaul before it ever becomes a deciding factor on which service I use for my TV viewing. |
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FastiBook
join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Comcrap.
I've had comcast for 15 years, and I've had "HD" from them for 4 of those. I am not a happy customer. Thier hd channels are comprised of low quality pixelating jumpy out of sync crap to stretchovision. Only discovery, the news stations, and a few movie channels. The rest are stretched or cropped. I would love to move tv to vz.
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Sent from my iPhone.
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Shack
join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN | reply to pnh102
Re: Verizon Counterclaim
I have never had a problem with Comcast on Demand, works fine here. |
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apollo80
join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA
| HD selection and quality better with Verizon
I finally got Fios installed last week and cancelled Comcast.
The picture is so much better and the selection seems to be greater, too.
Plus I'm getting more channels for less money.
I watched Burn Notice in HD from a recording today with my Fios box. When I paused the playback, there was, to my surprise, little to no artifacting.
Can't say that with the history I've had with Comcast. Blocky blocks everywhere when I paused. |
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winsyrstrife
River City Bounce
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
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My strength is much greater than yours!!! |
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Bit
Premium
join:2009-02-19
00000
 ·VOIPo
·Cox HSI
| I don't know about Verizon or Comcast
But if it is anything like Cox they shouldn't be able to call it HD. I was watching Speed Racer on HBO HD on Cox (yeah, I am 1 of like 3 people who liked that movie) and it was so overcompressed and there was so many motion artifacts that it was nearly unwatchable. Anyone who has seen that movie knows that it is heavy CG with a lot of background motion and detail. The cool CG effects were decimated by the crap quality of the broadcast. I see the same thing switching between NFL games on CBS HD via cable and CBS HD OTA. On cable it is unwatchable.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC | reply to flashcore
Re: LOL
This is the internet police, you've exceeded your euphemism limit for the day. Please refrain from using Concast, VNOD, Comcrap, and especially M$ for the remainder of the day.
Thank you for your cooperation citizen. |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
·Comcast
·magicjack.com
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
| If we look at HD in two contented ways, there are the linear channels, and the VOD.
They both have their highs and lows. FiOS obviously has more linear channels, but significantly less VOD. Comcast does CLAIM a lot of HDVOD, but a lot of that is 2 minute interviews or peices of junk. BUT, a good chunk of FiOS's linear channels are PPV/West feeds of Movie Channels.
For the future though, it seems that CC is expanding their linear lineup (see my post in the Midwest Forum about ADDING 54 HD stations in Detroit, bringing the total to 102), faster than FiOS is expanding their VOD lineup.
It appears though, the good news is that both boeheimiths have enough bandwidth to eventually support all the HD feed we want. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to jmn1207
Re: Verizon Counterclaim
said by jmn1207  :With my Scientific Atlanta HD DVR and SERA guide, my first attempt at connecting to Comcast's VOD service resulted in a lengthy pause followed by a complete reboot of the cable box. After that it generally worked ok, but it took nearly 10 minutes to get up and running with a video. I also have similar issues with Verizon in that I am not able to use VOD services during prime time. Consequently, I never use VOD because it has always been such a disappointment, with either Comcast or Verizon. It is poorly implemented at this time, and it needs a serious overhaul before it ever becomes a deciding factor on which service I use for my TV viewing. Sounds like I am in the same boat as you. I lived in a different Comcast market and used to have working VOD. But not anymore!
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
1 edit | reply to CycloneGT
Re: LOL
said by CycloneGT :So while Dish, DirecTV, & FiOS each have pushed their number of HD channels over 100, Comcast just considers HD OnDemand selections (such 60 episodes of the Sopranos) to be the same as 60 HD channels. Oh well, a educated consumer should see right through that. A "well educated consumer" knows what a channel and a choice is especially when you're talking about OnDemand. Only an uneducated person, or ignorant person, would push an argument TO DEATH that they're trying to somehow confuse channels with OnDemand selections.
I find it laughable that you'd sit here and talk about educated consumers when you're acting like you're not.
Never once does Comcast say "more hd channels".. it DOES say "there is more HD programs available at any given time" which is factually correct. You're sitting here twisting and putting words in the mouth of Comcast and working overtime to do so WHILE applauding "educated consumers" for knowing better... so what does that make you?
So really, since this argument is beaten to death, and well educated consumers know this, that really what you're saying is that the people on BBR are idiots? .. becuase everyone loves to bash a statement made in plain English. You clearly know the difference between choices and channels.. so stop acting like you've been harmed when you know you're not becuase you KNOW what the message says..
In the end, I could give a rats ass less who has more HD anything.. be it CHANNELS, or OnDemand, or OnOccasion, or HD pictures.. could care less.. my focus is no the idiotic fanboi bitching back and forth about a simple word that is clearly being pushed out of context in order to make something out of nothing.. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to LeftOfSanity
Re: Verizon Counterclaim
said by LeftOfSanity :I use the Comcast VOD all the time. Never had a problem with it. :edit for clarification: I've had a problem or two in the entire time I've had it here in the Twin Cities since 10/2004. The experience will differe just like ANY other service depending on location and issues affecting that area.
Considering that a node is about 200 to 500 homes, on average, for someone to claim that becuase of THEIR service working a certain way, and a few others that will chime in and agree with them for having the same problem, doesn't mean that it's bad nationwide.
I use VOD more than normal television and then my DVR service... when I use VOD, I RARELY have a problem with it.. since people think their own experience is what makes everyone elses out to be, I guess with that logic I could say that everyone's VOD must work fine.. (But, I'm smart enough to know better.. there are people that have issues.. I just know that it doesn't equate to the greater picture) |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
| reply to fiberguy
Re: LOL
Huh, what's your problem? Clearly Comcast's message is intentionally phrased in such a way as to confuse VoD for live channels. They also do something similar with their cable vs DSL ads for broadband, comparing to 768k DSL that very few people actually use.
True enough, everyone twists their words in marketing, but I don't see why you're jumping on someone for calling Comcast out on their dishonesty. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| I don't see that they are.. the message is in clear English. They say, on the ads here, "there are more HD choices starting at anytime over ...X"... to me, I'm able to understand what they're saying.. it means that if you took all the HD possibilities that you can actively select, channels and VOD, Comcast says there are more that you can view at anytime - which is factually true. I think that if you take the English language as stated, it takes more effort to confuse the situation. You are right that some people wont' get it, but here at BBR, everyone does, yet they like to complain about it.. for fun I suppose? I dunno..
As for the DSL.. yes, they compare the 768 speed.. often the 1.5 speed as well. There are still a large number of people using 768, in verizon territory that still offers it, or the 1.5 depending on if they've killed the 768 tier in that area yet.
You can't compare their 3.0 service becuase not everyone can get that tier. However, in cable, everyone CAN get the top tier which is why they are required to claim against the tier available to all available subscribers.
If they, in the qwest areas, said "faster then 7.0 meg service".. that would piss people off too.. those that say "am still stuck at 256"...
Moral.. you will never please everyone.. as everyone will have a beef with something. But, the DLS/Cable comparison is actually correct on how to advertise it. Kinda the same as when Satellite started counting their audio channels as "channels" when saying "We have more channels than cable" years ago.. when you add in 75 music channels, sure! they add up quick..
They both do it.. the consumer needs to simply do their homework at all times.. I don't know about many here, but I do my homework NO MATTER WHAT as I never put my faith in an ad.. I know that ads are there, so long as they don't lie, simply to grab your attention and generate a phone call... ads generate leads period. |
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