MSauk
MSauk
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BBBanditRuR
join:2009-06-02
Parachute, CO
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| Exactly. Make your content affordable, accessible and DRM free, people will buy it. I use Vuze and buy music/Netflix etc...
Q. MPAA/RIAA Why aren't you guys jumping on this idea?
A. ....I'm sorry I didn't catch that. I need to take the LSD from the Vinyl 70's nostalgia business model off my face. |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
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|  Magic
It's not as if the copyrighted material just becomes available so it can be pirated without someone putting it there in the first place. Many of these pirates also have a considerable amount of interest in this media, otherwise they would not have looked for methods to obtain it for free.
With enthusiasts looking to support one of their hobbies, it's no surprise to me that this group comprises the top of the purchase/rental crowd for this stuff. |
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PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD | RIAA = Movie Tickets, DVDs, Movie Rentals?
Sorry, just trying to figure out what the RIAA has to do with movies. |
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Assman
join:2007-11-06
Dildo, NL | What's Vuze?
What's Vuze? Never heard of it. |
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theyipper
join:2001-01-18
Oakland, CA | It's an offspring of Azureus (an early BT client). |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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Re: Magic
said by jmn1207  :It's not as if the copyrighted material just becomes available so it can be pirated without someone putting it there in the first place. Many of these pirates also have a considerable amount of interest in this media, otherwise they would not have looked for methods to obtain it for free. With enthusiasts looking to support one of their hobbies, it's no surprise to me that this group comprises the top of the purchase/rental crowd for this stuff. And why should we believe Vuze in this matter. They are only a little better than Pirate Bay in what they do. It is just that they have smarter PR people to put a nice cover on their business. Their TOS says no making available of copyrighted material, but they depend on that discredited system of removing the illegal content only if they are notified(every single time someone else uploads the same illegal content).
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA
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| Yep!
Downloaded Cars - bought the Blu-ray!
Downloaded Meet The Robinsons - bought the Blu-ray!
Downloaded I, Robot - bought the Blu-ray!
Downloaded Hellboy - bought the Blu-ray!
Downloaded Transformers - bought the Blu-ray!
Downloaded Fantastic Four: ROTSS - bought the Blu-ray!
Downloaded Serenity - bought the Blu-ray!
More, but you all get the point(I hope).
Imagine that!
Did the same with a shitload more movies, on DVD before Blu-ray - but I really don't want to list them all here.
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tubbynet
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Magic
said by TKJunkMail :And why should we believe Vuze in this matter. They are only a little better than Pirate Bay in what they do. It is just that they have smarter PR people to put a nice cover on their business. you could have replaced the word "vuze" with "riaa/mpaa" and gotten the same effect. the point is, when you have biased parties shaping the numbers that they have a direct vested interest in, you're going to get bad results. the riaa/mpaa have come out saying they've lost kazillions of dollars per year to piracy. its no different.
q.
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Ignite
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Posting while a bit drunk is never wise, duly edited  |
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Logan 5
Wondering what happens next..
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| reply to dadkins
Re: Yep!
said by dadkins :Downloaded Cars - bought the Blu-ray! Downloaded Meet The Robinsons - bought the Blu-ray! Downloaded I, Robot - bought the Blu-ray! Downloaded Hellboy - bought the Blu-ray! Downloaded Transformers - bought the Blu-ray! Downloaded Fantastic Four: ROTSS - bought the Blu-ray! Downloaded Serenity - bought the Blu-ray! More, but you all get the point(I hope). Imagine that! Did the same with a shitload more movies, on DVD before Blu-ray - but I really don't want to list them all here. WOW, an intelligent customer who has used the expanding role that Video and the internet are growing in to, to his advantage as well as theirs....
20 lashes with a wet subpoena to you Mr. Dadkins, you've been a naughty boy and we must punish you even though the content you've purchased over the years at our inflated pricing has helped our bottom line....
Or, as Mr. Makey from South Park would say: Downloads are BAD mmmkay?, p2p is BAD mmmkay? Greed is good....VERY good indeed.... |
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MarkAW
Barry White or lil bratt
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1 edit | reply to dadkins
I use Vuze as well and like dadkins dowloaded a shit load of movies with Vuze and bought most of them when they came out later on Blu-ray and DVD.
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scavio
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Re: RIAA = Movie Tickets, DVDs, Movie Rentals?
Good call. I suspect that an music poll wouldn't look so rosy (not that I necessarily blame people for not wanting to pay inflated prices for music).
I think the movie industry needs to evolve just like everyone else, but this data is as useless as the numbers the MPAA (and RIAA) release. The thing that matters to them is if "pirates" purchase more or less movies due to P2P. Spending more than the average population means nothing to them... unless they have the vision to be worried about angering their best customers like the RIAA did. |
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espaeth
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| This report is awesome
According to the report, the average Vuze user is predominantly male, single, and employed with no kids.
So they are saying that single men with steady incomes with a large amount of discretionary spending due to lack of family budgetary commitments (ie, childcare) spend more on entertainment than the average person.
What next? A report saying that people who own homes buy more lawnmowers? |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| reply to Logan 5
Re: Yep!
Yeah, no shit... huh? 
Figure $20-$24 each for the Blu-ray Discs... I put a couple bucks in their pockets.
At $12-$19 for the DVDs - there's a few more.
All because I watched a rip and thought I would like a BETTER copy to have for myself and family/friends.
Had I not watched the movies, I doubt I would have purchased them.
There are still a few others I'm waiting to be released on Blu so I can buy those too.
Mo Money Mo Money Mo Money... 
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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| reply to MarkAW
said by MarkAW :I use Vuze as well and like dadkins dowloaded a shit load of movies with Vuze and bought most of them when they came out later on Blu-ray and DVD. Damn Right!
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
| reply to espaeth
Re: This report is awesome
If those are indeed the demographics then it seems that there's an advertising goldmine waiting to be tapped. The 18-35 year old male has traditionally been the hardest group to market to and with the popularity of console video games, they've been even more difficult to reach (more time spent playing games means less time watching TV or surfing the 'net...which is why some of the more aggressive companies have made inroads to product placement in video games themselves).
So maybe the content creators should do a bit more research on confirming those numbers and then tailor the content so that they reach more potential customers? |
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winsyrstrife
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Re: Yep!
Amen.
I can't trust the crap Hollywood puts out the majority of the year. I could just watch the DVDs my mom always buys of pretty much any movie. There are many movies, however, that I have bought blu-ray versions of, so I can enjoy them on my large screen, with friends, etc. All of these movies are movies that I definitely would not have bought had I not downloaded them first.
0 $$, or a lot of $$. Tough choice for the big wigs.
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Kearnstd
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Re: Magic
personally i think in ALL copyright cases nowdays the judge should force the RIAA to prove there was a legit downloadable version on the date of the infaction. if no legit download version was available on that date then the case is automatically thrown out.
if anything it would push the music industry to put their ENTIRE library online for download from the various services. and then they would have ground to stand on in court.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Stupid article
"Studies continually show that users who pirate content via BitTorrent also buy more content than regular users."
Does this even make sense? Now if I said to you that shoplifters bought more stuff at wal-mart than non-shoplifters would you think that made sense? Would wal-mart let people start shoplifting? No. If I'm the type of person that downloads stuff of BitTorrent then WHY would I ever pay? Why would I steal some stuff and not others? The author of this article is talking out of his ass. |
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