baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Its back off the shelf
We all know that their plan will be back off the shelf and re-accounced in the coming months.
I just hope their caps will be more reasonsable (100gig+), not 5-40. |
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sharksfan3
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join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY | Give me true metered billing.
Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB.
All will be happy! |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
2 edits | reply to baineschile
Re: Its back off the shelf
said by baineschile  :We all know that their plan will be back off the shelf and re-accounced in the coming months. I just hope their caps will be more reasonsable (100gig+), not 5-40. They would be smart if they kill the caps altogether & move to a sliding consumption model that charges more the more you use. And then structure the fees so that average users pay the same they are paying now; very light users pay less(good PR value); and the hogs pay a lot more. End result is the same revenue with a good upside potential as more users use the connection for video.
LOL. I should be charging the cable companies for these ideas. They need a change in their marketing and business plans. »Some observations
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aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to sharksfan3
Re: Give me true metered billing.
said by sharksfan3 :Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB. All will be happy! Not at those high prices! |
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gqkull
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Round Rock, TX
clubs: | Lower price for low usage, um where was that part?
A lot of the issue too was that they were not lowering the price for low usage folks, then imposing an unrealistic limit on the higher usage folks, that would drive them broke looking at that pricing scheme. |
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iansltx_
@spcsdns.net | reply to aaronwt
Re: Give me true metered billing.
Did you forget sarcasm tags or are you serious? Because I think that pricing structure would be just fine, |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to baineschile
Re: Its back off the shelf
Agreed. The problem is, there's nothing constraining them to be reasonable.
Is there competition in the cable business in any market in the USA today? And for internet, most cities have at best a cable monopoly and a telco monopoly.
Without competition, they will probably keep the tiers and caps so low that substantial fractions of the userbase will be paying overages or having to restrain internet activity. The solution is public ownership of the "last mile" and a larger number of companies competing to provide service to each household or business. |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | For one thing...
They didn't attempt to hoist anything. Consumers rejected the plan foisted on them. 'Debacle' indeed.
For another, I don't know why they are so worried about people pulling the plug on the TV. Delivery method matters little if the content is so crappy. RIAA thinks their revenue is down for the [same] wrong reason.
TW is barking up the wrong tree because the investors are on a different scent. They might be thinking 'less', but their nose smells 'more'.
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romulus
@bigfishgames.com | Obligatory cynical witticism
In the corporate world, there's no such thing as a bad idea, just bad PR. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| reply to sharksfan3
Re: Give me true metered billing.
said by sharksfan3 :Charge me $10-$15/mo for the connection, then charge $.10-$.15 per GB. All will be happy! Based on their own price schedule, the connection should be $5 month. That is what they charge you more for Internet if you want no TV so that is what they compute their actual cost is (or why is the bundling discount only that amount)? |
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
·Comcast
| It needs to be fair...
if done it should be $19 for the first 40GB then 10 cents per GB after that or something.. so even with 250GB of usage you would hit what the cost is now for comcast at 250GB... the whole people dont use more then 4GB is BS as every modem on cable networks I've seen use that up alone in ARP and other "noise" packets which providers like comcast count against you! |
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | reply to romulus
Re: Obligatory cynical witticism
Its funny that Republicans use the same type of wording to describe gov't. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| The reason that they're pushing PPU consumption
Is because we've hit a spot where the 'average' consumer doesn't care whether they have a basic speed (TWC 'standard' = 10Mbps here) or Turbo Extreme +20Mbps.
The average customer would probably not care if it was in the 1.5Mbps-6Mbps range if it was $10-$15/month cheaper (TWC's form actually charges me MORE for 1.5Mbps than 'standard' 10Mbps  ).
Where they 'can' make a difference in pay for consumption.
Unlike paying $10/month to hit another tier - this has the ability to cost users big money if they aren't watching.
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
 ·VOIPo
| Wow!
"I still think the use-less-pay-less and use-more-pay-more model can work."
Of course it CAN IF you do it right, aka NOT the way TW has been. If a package cost you $40 b4 it STILL does, but now you can only use like 20GB when b4 you could use more. If they want it to work the way they say they do they should charge $20 for a 10/3 with 40GB and $0.10-$0.15 per GB after that.
"Of course the idea of consumption-based pricing is aimed at monetizing the growing explosion in video delivery over the Internet, protecting TV revenues, and pleasing investors. "If, at an extreme, you could get all of the programming you get over cable for free on the Internet, over time people will stop buying," Britt told attendees while discussing the threat of users eventually cutting the TV cord. "
Did he just admit what I think he admitted?!?!?!?!
If they want more people to keep tv lower the prices make an ala carte pack where I only pay for the channels I watch, and most of all put some good stuff on tv lie 90% of the stuff on the IMHO is pure 100% CRAP.The only shows I watch on pay for tv are: Mythbusters, operation repo(my fav show), bev hillbillies on TVland(and a few other tvland shows from time to time), some fox, married with children on i forget what channel, G4, history stuff some times, and some si-fi stuff. |
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thederf
join:2007-05-20
Scranton, PA | reply to birdfeedr
Re: For one thing...
If the cable co's move to metered billing, then they need to change their video service billing, and only charge for the channels that I watch. |
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hamburglar_
join:2002-04-29
Columbus, OH
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to swhx7
Re: Its back off the shelf
said by swhx7 :Is there competition in the cable business in any market in the USA today? And for internet, most cities have at best a cable monopoly and a telco monopoly. Yes, there is. Here in Columbus, Ameritech built a cable system using their right-of-way back in the '90s, called Americast. It is completely separate from the Time Warner and Insight plants and they overlap with both in the metro. Once Ameritech (now ATT) decided they weren't a cable operator, they sold it to another company »www.wowway.com We are one of the lucky markets with another choice. |
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Tim Warner Cable
@rr.com | reply to baineschile
Check out what Time Warner Cable customers are saying in REAL TIME at »twitter.com/twcsucks. It ain't pretty. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| reply to neufuse
Re: It needs to be fair...
"if done it should be $19 for the first 40GB then 10 cents per GB after that or something.. so even with 250GB of usage you would hit what the cost is now for comcast at 250GB..."
That would work a lot better than what they want IMHO.
"the whole people dont use more then 4GB is BS as every modem on cable networks I've seen use that up alone in ARP and other "noise" packets which providers like comcast count against you!"
I know it is pure bs. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| reply to Tim Warner Cable
Re: Its back off the shelf
said by Tim Warner Cable :Check out what Time Warner Cable customers are saying in REAL TIME at » twitter.com/twcsucks. It ain't pretty. Real good cross section of TWC users - only those that go to twcsucks. No skewing of results there - LOL.
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Bit
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join:2009-02-19
00000 | Liar, it will NEVER be use less pay less, use more pay more
It will be use less pay the same with annual price increases and use more pay insanely punitively we're looking to defend our video revenues more.
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