rob316
join:2005-10-17
Carteret, NJ | SCUM
SCUM |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | imagine..Free AOL with metered broadband!!!
Imagine them giving free aol dialup to supplement the metered broadband. I have reached my cap, i better use my unlimited AOL account . Maybe AOL has a use ? |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI | AOL is not free if you have to dial in to their system. It's only free if you have your own access. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
 ·VOIPo
| Ugh.
If they want a metered y not make it a REAL PAYG $10 for a 5/1 and $0.10 per GB? Answer they will not make as much money, maybe even not as much as they r now if as they say most people do not use anywhere close to 40GB. They are, IMHO, just out for money and to skrew the costumer, for more money. IF and only IF they had REAL data that said they needed this I could understand, but as they are now ugh. |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| isn't pursuit of metered billing a little like this?
»video.google.com/videoplay?docid···05127076
for those on metered billing who don't want to load the video, it's bugs (bunny) and yosemite sam exchanging cannon balls back and forth trying to blow one another to kingdom come.
in the end, metered billing would destroy the ISP industry and create quite a problem with customer loyalty & churn rates. if you think about it... if billing by the byte becomes reality, then wouldn't you want to go with the company who offers the most bits per dollar? again, your chasing what is essentially an unlimited plan again.
however, those who assume that the inflationary pressures plaguing the energy industry spill over into all other industries giving the impression of obscene greed by isp corporations which are at least 2x bigger than they were a decade ago. your choices being limited as they may.. once can foresee metered billing bringing out those to call for rate reglation/relief. industries built upon taxpayer monies (all those fiber optics laid by arpa net decades ago & subsidies paid since) revolve around a taxpayer stewardship of where the industry goes with rates, abuses, and other issues (by both consumers & industry alike).
as much as the big isp corporations OWN the last mile.. it still is OUR public internet, for the time being. |
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DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs: | Primordial ooze
Time Warner + Lawyers = sleazy primordial ooze |
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Dampier
Phillip M Dampier
join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY
| StoptheCap.com
If you are not in the fight already, please bookmark stopthecap.com and stay in touch. We will have Action Alerts going very soon and will need everyone to mobilize to take action to beat back the usage caps and meters yet again.
This is your fight, my fight -- everyone's fight. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to tmc8080
Re: isn't pursuit of metered billing a little like this?
Maybe good will come out of this. By good I mean new ISPs that give a crap about their costumers. IMHO small business>big business, the small business around here treat you almost like you are family. Maybe some co-ops would help. |
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DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs:
| reply to Dampier
Re: StoptheCap.com
said by Dampier  :If you are not in the fight already, please bookmark stopthecap.com and stay in touch. We will have Action Alerts going very soon and will need everyone to mobilize to take action to beat back the usage caps and meters yet again. This is your fight, my fight -- everyone's fight. Yes, thanks for your hard work. I think i speak for most of us when i say thank you ----thank you ---- thank you.
*** HUGS Dampier **** |
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TransitMan
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-05
Dayton, OH
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner VOIP
·Earthlink TrueVoice
| Time For A Change?
While it looks like TWC/RR is going ahead with their backwards thinking plan, I may be looking at voting with my wallet and going back to AT&T (and the NSA garbage that goes with it.)
AT&T may not be any better, but I will not be held hostage by TWC/RR on any CAPS less that 250GB - 300GB across the board.
I do not like CAPS, but at least Comcast or one of the cable companies did their folks right by going with an across-the-board 250GB CAP.
And with AT&T working in my area, it may not be long until U-Verse is here.
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DIRECTOR OF THE CRUNCHENSTEIN ASSOCIATION AND HOST OF CRUNCHENSTEIN #2 |
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dentman42
join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH
 ·AT&T Midwest
| said by TransitMan :While it looks like TWC/RR is going ahead with their backwards thinking plan, I may be looking at voting with my wallet and going back to AT&T (and the NSA garbage that goes with it.) AT&T may not be any better, but I will not be held hostage by TWC/RR on any CAPS less that 250GB - 300GB across the board. I do not like CAPS, but at least Comcast or one of the cable companies did their folks right by going with an across-the-board 250GB CAP. And with AT&T working in my area, it may not be long until U-Verse is here. AT&T is testing bandwidth caps as well, and their cap level wasn't much better than TW's - something like 80GB for the top tier, which is available only via uVerse. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
1 edit | reply to Dampier
Re: StoptheCap.com
I just went there cool place. I loled @ tw comparing how when your neighbor uses water you water pressure drops and it said you pay for them, that made me lol. I agree your pressure may drop but he IS paying for the water he uses, a gallon of water costs you $x no mater how fast it comes out. I find it funny how they compare their phail to a TRUE metered billing(a kinda I and I think a lot of others would be ok with) with water you pay x for a gallon of water so y could we not just pay $10 for like a 5/2 connection and like $0.10 per GB and leave it at that.
I get what they r saying, if the dude next to you uses vandwidth there will not be a much left for you, well TW desined it that way it is their fault. If they have to give us huge overages at least give us a good size cap, NO LESS than 500GB for packages 5m and under, 10m=1TB 15m=1.5TB 20m=2TB ect.
Y must the threat us like all we r going to do if we have more bandwidth is download music and movies illegaly? We are their life blood, with out us they could not survive, it is time they treat us as such. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to me1212
Re: isn't pursuit of metered billing a little like this?
said by me1212 :Maybe good will come out of this. By good I mean new ISPs that give a crap about their costumers. IMHO small business>big business, the small business around here treat you almost like you are family. Maybe some co-ops would help. Yes, this could be a good opportunity for small ISPs. One problem though: independent ISPs generally don't have true access to next gen networks. There's no resellers for U-verse, and the few FIOS resellers I've heard of are just reselling Verizon connectivity, so it's likely to be subject to the same bandwidth restrictions if they are imposed.
Check out Canada's experiences with metered billing to see how smaller ISPs were pretty much forced to comply.
So if you want unlimited, you're likely to be stuck with ADSL or ADSL2+ if you're really lucky on copper from the CO via Covad or some other CLEC. If you're serviced through an RT or are far from the CO you're in trouble. If Covad jumps on board with metered billing with the rest we're pretty much screwed.
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AT&T U-Hearse
Your funeral. Delivered.
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duder
@rr.com
| education my balls
consumers simply needed education on how to dump then fast fios fios fios  |
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duder
@rr.com | fuck the internet
the internet is going to shit going back to books soon
everybody dump twc and see how education works for them butt heads |
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Mad as Heck
@pacbell.net
| Time to Fight Back
If the ISPs intend to kill the Internet by imposing caps to save their video services, would it not be possible for neighborhoods to setup their own service by setting up a T1 or T3 line to one house and allowing neighbors to connect? This could be a nice business opportunity for someone to set this up for neighborhoods. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to djrobx
Re: isn't pursuit of metered billing a little like this?
I'd be going back to DSL-Extreme if they can keep unmetered billing |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | here we go again
its either upgrade to business class or cut the cable off. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| humm
example:
in there price lock for 2 years and they now add this in i guess i can get out of my contract without having to pay more to get out of it and switch to someone else?
They broke the contract to add this in correct or am i mistaken? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to dentman42
Re: Time For A Change?
said by dentman42 :said by TransitMan :While it looks like TWC/RR is going ahead with their backwards thinking plan, I may be looking at voting with my wallet and going back to AT&T (and the NSA garbage that goes with it.) AT&T may not be any better, but I will not be held hostage by TWC/RR on any CAPS less that 250GB - 300GB across the board. I do not like CAPS, but at least Comcast or one of the cable companies did their folks right by going with an across-the-board 250GB CAP. And with AT&T working in my area, it may not be long until U-Verse is here. AT&T is testing bandwidth caps as well, and their cap level wasn't much better than TW's - something like 80GB for the top tier, which is available only via uVerse. Acctually the 80 GB cap applies to the 6 mbps tier. The U-verse cap is 150 GB. |
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