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This really shows what sad shape our legal systems are in as to how in-pocket they are with the entertainment industry. Have any of you seen Idiocracy »www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ ? It's coming soon to a gubbermint near you!
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Matt
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I'm biased toward this all being hilarious. How big is Sweden again? |
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nooblover24
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great movie, you can't get water only gatorade. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by Matt  :I'm biased toward this all being hilarious. How big is Sweden again? May be hard to find a judge anywhere that doesn't have a natural bias against music & movie thieves. Sort of goes with the job description.
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Matt :I'm biased toward this all being hilarious. How big is Sweden again? May be hard to find a judge anywhere that doesn't have a natural bias against music & movie thieves. Sort of goes with the job description. I was referring more toward the fact that so far, three judges have all been a part of this same copyright group. This sounds like a trial in the backwoods of Mississippi, not Sweden. |
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MrBradTX
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Naming your organization The Pirate Bay doesn't really make you sound trustworthy.
Replicating music and video also seems to be one of those socially polarizing issues where the extremes are zealously defended with almost no middle ground. |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Matt :I'm biased toward this all being hilarious. How big is Sweden again? May be hard to find a judge anywhere that doesn't have a natural bias against music & movie thieves. Sort of goes with the job description. It's not that they have natural bias, it's that they are members of copyright interest groups. WHich is a huge conflict of interest.
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Re: labels matter
said by MrBradTX :Naming your organization The Pirate Bay doesn't really make you sound trustworthy. Replicating music and video also seems to be one of those socially polarizing issues where the extremes are zealously defended with almost no middle ground. Just to be clear: The Pirate Bay does not make any actual files or works available for download on their website. They strictly organize and index .torrent files which are harmless and legal in and of themselves..
re: The "Judge of the day" situation in Sweden, all this BS is just making the PB founders laugh their asses off at the incompetence of the Swedish legal system. No wonder they wanted their trial held there, they KNEW it would be difficult to prosecute them there and so far, they've been 100% right.
The keystone cops couldn't have planned this better if it had been a Marx Brothers silent film.... |
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insomniac84
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Schererville, IN | So that means the first one was biased?
If the second one is biased for being a member of a group the first judge was a member of, doesn't that guarantee the first judge will be ruled biased? |
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knightmb
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said by MrBradTX :Naming your organization The Pirate Bay doesn't really make you sound trustworthy. Replicating music and video also seems to be one of those socially polarizing issues where the extremes are zealously defended with almost no middle ground. All a matter of opinion of course, just like the RIAA sounds like a trustworthy name?
That might be true, but the pirate bay is no different google or yahoo, you can find the same torrents just as easily on them, yet they aren't in court because they are too big of targets with deep pockets to fight it out forever.
Just like a 4th grade bully, go beat up the 3rd graders, but don't mess with the 8th graders because you know you'll lose. If the pirate bay was the only place in the world that had a torrent index, then maybe you could point fingers, but truthfully they are just a small percentage to the vast ocean of torrent index sites and search engines.
They only get press because of the name and the balls of the founders to actually stand up to the RIAA (and counterparts of a different name elsewhere in the world)
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Matt :I'm biased toward this all being hilarious. How big is Sweden again? May be hard to find a judge anywhere that doesn't have a natural bias against music & movie thieves. Sort of goes with the job description. That's true, maybe against music and movie thieves, none which really applies to the Pirate Bay anymore than it applies to Google or MSN. When the Pirate Bay starts offering up the actual files that are the music/movie in question, then yeah, they will be roasted. Otherwise, you might as well make the same argument about Google, Yahoo, MSN, Ask, and any other search engine that has an index of torrent files like the Pirate Bay.
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said by TKJunkMail :May be hard to find a judge anywhere that doesn't have a natural bias against music & movie thieves. Which the guys who run Pirate Bay AREN'T.
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It's what plants crave! |
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said by MrBradTX :Naming your organization The Pirate Bay doesn't really make you sound trustworthy. Replicating music and video also seems to be one of those socially polarizing issues where the extremes are zealously defended with almost no middle ground. "...to live outside the law, you must be honest..." Bob Dylan. |
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said by knightmb :said by TKJunkMail :said by Matt :I'm biased toward this all being hilarious. How big is Sweden again? May be hard to find a judge anywhere that doesn't have a natural bias against music & movie thieves. Sort of goes with the job description. That's true, maybe against music and movie thieves, none which really applies to the Pirate Bay anymore than it applies to Google or MSN. When the Pirate Bay starts offering up the actual files that are the music/movie in question, then yeah, they will be roasted. Otherwise, you might as well make the same argument about Google, Yahoo, MSN, Ask, and any other search engine that has an index of torrent files like the Pirate Bay. And when any other sites like Google, Yahoo, MSN, and Ask host the .torrent files and offer bittorrent tracking services, your point might be valid. |
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said by MrBradTX :Naming your organization The Pirate Bay doesn't really make you sound trustworthy. I disagree. Just because you name your organization based on some stereotype about an activity (even if you do not engage in that activity or the stereotype being inaccurate) does not mean that you are untrustworthy. In this case the Media-Mafia types claim that all P2P/BitTorrent usage is Piracy so why not make fun of them by naming your Torrent server "Pirate Bay"?
This is like naming a Computer Data Recovery Company "Crash and Burn" (a name I once saw used in a fiction story for such a company that offered to recover data from computers that suffered Fire and/or Water damage). |
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said by Matt :And when any other sites like Google, Yahoo, MSN, and Ask host the .torrent files and offer bittorrent tracking services, your point might be valid. They do in the cache, a torrent file is nothing more than text with trackers and the hash, so yeah, in a technical sense, they do host it. Point is still valid.
I figured I would throw this out,
Here is the data clip within the "Underworld Rise of the Lycans" torrent currently on the Pirate Bay, then followed by the Google cache (open it with a hex editor or something).
Yup, Google has the same thing, so technically, they are both Pirates?
Here is what google has in their cache:
»74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:N_-···nk&gl=us
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well this is why we have Juries in this country and good "jury selection" experts. Just ask OJ
No one wants a fair judge or a fair jury. You want either biased in your favor. That is what jury "selection" is all about. All people have bias. We cant help it. We are people not machines. We just need to know what the bias is so we can manipulate it in our favor. |
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said by knightmb :said by Matt :And when any other sites like Google, Yahoo, MSN, and Ask host the .torrent files and offer bittorrent tracking services, your point might be valid. They do in the cache, a torrent file is nothing more than text with trackers and the hash, so yeah, in a technical sense, they do host it. Point is still valid. I figured I would throw this out, Here is the data clip within the "Underworld Rise of the Lycans" torrent currently on the Pirate Bay, then followed by the Google cache (open it with a hex editor or something). Yup, Google has the same thing, so technically, they are both Pirates? Here is what google has in their cache: » 74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:N_-···nk&gl=us You do realize that link points to the Pirate Bay right? Google didn't actually cache the .torrent file ...
Anyway, let's say they did but the Pirate Bay's tracker didn't exist ... can you still download that file? Nope, the .torrent is then worthless. |
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