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Comments on news posted 2009-05-22 10:14:01: Given that free access to information is verboten by the great leader of destiny Kim Jong-il, North Korean citizens enjoy virtually no Internet access. ..

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Matt
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 Unbelievable

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.

patcat88

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intra-nets are great

So they built an intra-net instead of the internet. Thats good that they were honest unlike China and Australia. Trying to filter the internet is impossible, so if you disconnect from the outside world, your police force can easily censor any problems in real life by just visiting the webmaster's home, and not resort to filters and blacklists which are easily defeated.

Since north korea has a "no leaving the country" and a "no communications to/from outside the country", this intranet plan fits perfectly into their strategy. It would be very hypocritical for them to have given internet access to their citizens after all the other censoring that is done.


elios

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Re: Unbelievable

its becouse its still 1950 there and becouse the indoctrination starts at an early age

they just dont know any different and government does a damn good job keeping out news from the rest of the world


S_engineer

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Their alternative would be death. This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too. It's not so hard to believe...don't you remember the Soviet Union?
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said by Matt See Profile :

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
Part of it is fear, the other part is pride.

When you control the flow of information to the whole country and lock it completely down, the people don't know any better.

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»www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGiglVxRMmM

stufried
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Yes, I would definitely go over my cap watching the official news.


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said by S_engineer See Profile :

This seems to be the way Venezuala is going too.
Some individuals in our country who praise Chavez would have you believe differently.
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No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.

No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.

He has many things that he wont allow his citizens to have. But hey, its a dictatorship, who are they going to complain to?


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Re: Unbelievable

said by Matt See Profile :

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.

My fiancee is Korean - she was born here, but her parents were born in Korea (South) and much of their family remains over there. When my fiancee's cousin visited two years ago, I asked him about what S. Koreans thought about their neighbor, and perhaps how our perceptions thousands of miles away are different from people who live much closer.

In speaking with him, the conversation was short and pointed, not so much because his english was poor (it wasn't - he spoke just about as good as any English-speaking American), but because it obviously made him a little uncomfortable to talk about N. Korea. I think being a few hundred miles away from The Dear Lunatic, that their perceptions of danger are different than ours.

With regard to the Internet in N. Korea--that price tag is a deal-breaker for almost every N. Korean citizen. The rest of the people are figuring out how to put food on the table.

It's a sad situation over there, and frankly, the people need more than censored wireless Internet.
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Re: No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.

It is is necessary so that he can keep apprised of the matters of hmm ugh political significance being spread around the net. www.southkoreanhotties.com

At least he isn't kidnapping his sex toys from the South and his Japanese language teachers from Japanese coastal towns anymore.


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said by TomS_ See Profile :

No doubt Kim Jong-Il has full feed Internet access.
He does, and it's said that he enjoys many perks of Western culture, like fine cigars, Mercades, and movies. I only wish he'd thrown on TLC's "What Not To Wear" or even E! for some fashon tips, because those glasses and one-piece jumpsuits are so, like, not cool.
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said by Jeffrey See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

It really is unbelievable that in this day and age that a populace can allow itself to be controlled in such a manner.
I find that amazing also. I'm not sure how the status quo sticks around.
I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?


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said by Matt See Profile :

I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
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said by Jeffrey See Profile :

those glasses and one-piece jumpsuits are so, like, not cool.
Ive heard that the only reason he hasnt changed his image is due to the amount of statues and paintings which are in that style.

For him to change his look would require updating all of the statues and paintings.


elios

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Re: Unbelievable

get'em young kids are pulled in to it from day one
look around the net abit youll find it
they have them sing songs about there "Great" Leader as soon as they can talk

its like a cult

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said by Jeffrey See Profile :

From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
It has become a "cult of personality." Kids are taught at a very young age how bad the outside world is and that they need to listen and obey the "Dear Leader" at all costs. Kids are taught from a very young age that the outside world is out to get them and only their Dear Leader can protect them. It is easy to mold young minds.

ANY dissent, whether real or perceived, is dealt with in such a way that would make Stalin blush.


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reply to Jeffrey
said by Jeffrey See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

I guess that growing up here with relatively unlimited access to information, we just take it for granted. What I don't understand is why there isn't a revolt ... there has to be an underground movement or at least a group of people who know the truth?
From what I've read, it's just such a tightly-controlled regime that people are too scared to do anything. I just can't figure out how the Government has been able to do this 100% successfully for years, now. As the ability to travel and spread information across the world only keeps increasing as time goes on, it's more and more amazing that the exodus or revolt within N. Korea isn't directly proportional to that thought.
I saw a special on North Korea once, there was a guy who was sneaking in and out of the country with a video camera, risking his life to show the world what its really like there. Also it had some chilling interviews of a few who managed to get out. They also say if you step out of line they will not only kill you but generations of your family as well. Plus they are probably all so weak from not getting enough food so they don't stand a chance against the army.
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Caps? Overages?

From browsing a news website? I'd love to see that happen - unless the KCNA has HD feeds of their telecasts

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Nah, probably unlimitd. Bandwidth costs are low since it's just in-country, spectrum is provided by the government...well, okay, the government might charge high prices that would cause the partnered telco to pass 'em on...hmm...
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