S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| Time Warner....Take Note
This is how the process works if seek to build a decent relationship with your customers....
I'm enjoying my new tier in Chicago....you'll enjoy it in PA!
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Denver?
I'll just leave it at that. |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | Not sure.
I am still surprised that Verizon has not reacted by raising speeds in both Cablevision and Comcast areas that currently offer Docsis 3.0 speed that currently match or is faster than current speeds offered by Verizon. |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
1 edit | So far nothing can match FiOS uploads, must not be much demand for the 50/20 service over the 20/20 service.  |
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Cjaiceman
Premium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| reply to iansltx
Re: Denver?
said by iansltx  :I'll just leave it at that. Soon, very soon... 
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
 ·Fairpoint Communic..
| What's the POINT of 50mb/sec?
I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month?
Do the math. EVEN at only 1mb/sec, you can go over your cap. Give me a 1mb/sec plan for $5.95/month, and that would be worth it. You can still go over the 250GB cap, but just barely.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
 ·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to jmn1207
Re: Not sure.
My thoughts precisely. I'll take 20/20 for $60 (DSLX) over 22/5 for a bit more, and maybe even over 50/10 for $140 because in most cases 20 Mbps is plenty fast enough to max out the other side of a server connection for downloading a given file, and 20 Mbps uploads are just plain wonderful when you're trying to back up, move files etc.
I pity the places that can only get 5 Mbps uploads on DOCSIS 3 (Cox and Charter areas). I'll trade 10 Mbps of download for 5 Mbps of upload any day of the week. Yes, I'd rather have 5 Mbps symmetric than 15/2  |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Right!
" Upgraded DOCSIS 3.0 Comcast markets see the company's $42.95 "Performance" tier doubled to 12Mbps/2Mbps, while their $52.95 "Performance Plus" tier jumps from 8Mbps/2Mbps to 16Mbps/2Mbps."
Exactly! 8 becomes 16 at no additional cost!
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to karlmarx
Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec?
said by karlmarx :I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month? Do the math. EVEN at only 1mb/sec, you can go over your cap. Give me a 1mb/sec plan for $5.95/month, and that would be worth it. You can still go over the 250GB cap, but just barely. First of all, where do you get $140 a month?
Second, please explain your arithmatic. |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17 | reply to iansltx
Re: Denver?
Denver is small potatoes compared to Houston, and they aren't upgrading us. |
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espaeth
Digital Plumber
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
·voip.ms
·Vitelity VOIP
·Callcentric
·VoiceStick
·ViaTalk
·Comcast
·Embarq
| reply to karlmarx
Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec?
said by karlmarx :I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month? Thank you. That point is completely original and has never been made here before.
</sarcasm> |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to SLD
Re: Denver?
There is a difference however: Denver is a relatively major POP/fiber route for Comcast. HOU isn't. In Denver some of our traffic actually jumps onto Level3 right in town, though much of it still goes to LA. I don't think any traffic switches off to another carrier in Houston, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
OTOH you guys have U-Verse, which offers 18/1.5 (actual, not provisioned, at least as far as I can tell) whereas here Qwest is still truding along with service that realistically tops out at 17 Mbps down and 750k up...and that's if you are priveleged enough to be in an FTTN area. |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17 | Before the Comcast iBone routes came up, we went directly from HOU to Level3. We might still... I haven't checked. N.Houston has a major hub for Level3 and a bunch of other carriers - probably Comcast as well. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| reply to jmn1207
Re: Not sure.
said by jmn1207 :So far nothing can match FiOS uploads Typical fanboi talk. DOCSIS3 with bonded channels has uploads up to 100Mbps, and yes it has been implemented in Europe already.
The only reason you aren't seeing it here is because there's little to no demand for it. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
1 edit | reply to karlmarx
Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec?
said by karlmarx :I mean, you can hit your cap in 2 DAYS if you have the 12mb rate, why in the hell would anyone want to pay $140.00 for 12 HOURS of internet usage a month? Do the math. EVEN at only 1mb/sec, you can go over your cap. Give me a 1mb/sec plan for $5.95/month, and that would be worth it. You can still go over the 250GB cap, but just barely. If you are saturating your internet connection 24x7, not even a dedicated business class circuit will tolerate that for very long without serious bandwidth charges. |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
·Fairpoint Communic..
| reply to S_engineer
The point, the point is very simple. Right now, you are PAYING for 250GB/month. Period. You can technically do that with a 768/128KB dsl line. Sure, your running it 7x24 at 768, but you would still GET the same 250GB/month. And last I checked, a 768Kb line ran about $15.00 a month. Yet, Comcast offers the 50Mb service, which you can use up almost 70 TIMES as FAST, and end up paying almost 10 TIMES the price.
The question is, WHAT are you buying? Are you buying X number of bytes per month? If it's a CAPPED (aka comcast), then YES, you are buying 250GB/month. If you pay for the 50mb/sec plan, then you are paying $0.60 cents per GB. If you pay for the 12Mb plan, then you are paying $.16 cents per GB. AND, if you could get 768 for $15.00 a month, then you are paying $.06 cents per GB.
It's a recession. Why are you willing to pay 10 times the price for the EXACT SAME product? You can STILL get 250GB a month, no more, no less, for different prices.
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jt7
@comcast.net
| just because you have fast speeds does not mean you will hit the cap faster. 50mb just means you download faster. does not mean you are going to download more. if you have 768kbps speed and let say you upgrade to comcast for the 50mbps that does not mean you will hit the cap fast. if you dont change your internet habbits you will consume the same amount of bandwidth as you did before. you can watch netflix movies 8 hours a day everyday of the month and still not hit the cap. just because you have a 1mb connections does not mean you downloand 1 mb of infomation everytime. |
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Al Smith
join:2005-06-09
| reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx :The point, the point is very simple. Right now, you are PAYING for 250GB/month. Period. You can technically do that with a 768/128KB dsl line. Sure, your running it 7x24 at 768, but you would still GET the same 250GB/month. And last I checked, a 768Kb line ran about $15.00 a month. Yet, Comcast offers the 50Mb service, which you can use up almost 70 TIMES as FAST, and end up paying almost 10 TIMES the price. The question is, WHAT are you buying? Are you buying X number of bytes per month? If it's a CAPPED (aka comcast), then YES, you are buying 250GB/month. If you pay for the 50mb/sec plan, then you are paying $0.60 cents per GB. If you pay for the 12Mb plan, then you are paying $.16 cents per GB. AND, if you could get 768 for $15.00 a month, then you are paying $.06 cents per GB. It's a recession. Why are you willing to pay 10 times the price for the EXACT SAME product? You can STILL get 250GB a month, no more, no less, for different prices. I don't know how long that I stated this before, but it was last year sometime.. Many people can't use their brain for squat. Sum people just have to have faster and are none the wiser... |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to SLD
Re: Denver?
The iBone changes everything lol. All RR and apparently Qwest traffic routes through HOU right now... |
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TomClancy
Freedom isn't free
join:2003-04-23
... | reply to karlmarx
Re: What's the POINT of 50mb/sec?
Well, you can either wait 10min or 60min to download the same file. That the difference. It's more about the wait than anything else.
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