Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | Re: New Docs Show FCC Glossed Over BPL Flaws
No real surprise here, next thing you know they'll find Kevin Martin's conclusions about white space devices flawed too. The FCC has now been run to benefit large corporations rather than the public for years. |
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Eat Me
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| said by Sammer  :No real surprise here, next thing you know they'll find Kevin Martin's conclusions about white space devices flawed too. The FCC has now been run to benefit large corporations rather than the public for years. I'm sure they sold us down the river for a lot of things.
Kudos to ARRL for sticking up for its membership, which reminds me - I need to re-up my membership. |
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I Use Dial
join:2004-01-04
Morgan Hill, CA
clubs: | Eat your cake and have it, too.
A few entries down DSLR is talking up having the federal government increasing regulation. But here in this entry DSLR is discussing how federal regulation ends up being a tool for manipulation.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Yes, let's certainly not judge the quality of each instance of regulation on its own merits. Much easier to just say regulation itself kills puppies and is the worst sort of evil, right? |
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Eat Me
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said by I Use Dial :A few entries down DSLR is talking up having the federal government increasing regulation. But here in this entry DSLR is discussing how federal regulation ends up being a tool for manipulation. Good, transparent regulation is not a bad thing.
When the FCC hides stuff it's not good. |
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neowulf
join:2000-10-20
Port Orange, FL
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One could also argue that a change of regulation for the better, "new FOIA rules", brought to light regulation that was poorly administered by a corrupted administration.
It all depends on who is in control of said regulation, humans with their corruptibility can easily be swayed by money and power. So in this case I don't think it is fair to blame regulation, more so to blame those who regulate.
Is all regulation good, no. Should everything be regulated, no. Should regulation exist that protects the little guy from the big guy with a lobbyist at every door in Washington, I sure hope so. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Could BPL work?
Could it, it would be an easy(easy=no laying new cables) way to get high speed to people in rural areas where it is sat or dial-up. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| said by me1212 :Could it, it would be an easy(easy=no laying new cables) way to get high speed to people in rural areas where it is sat or dial-up. Good god, not this old tired argument again.
Please read up some of the older posts before you make blanket statements like that. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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said by me1212 :Could it, it would be an easy(easy=no laying new cables) way to get high speed to people in rural areas where it is sat or dial-up. NO.
another episode of simple answers to complex questions. |
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KraziJoe
join:2006-09-08
Alexandria, VA | Google
I am still awaiting Google's Sewer internet service! |
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KrK
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| I don't understand why the FCC was so big on this technology
... I think all along it's been a "strawman", an appearance of "cultivating competition".
Or maybe they just plain wanted it to work. I think there is possibilities for Internet via the electric utilities, but this doesn't appear to be it.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | WOW, the new FCC council is going after the power companies
»www.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/Welcome.html
Take a look at the RFI complaints. Strong words telling them fix it or else. |
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Karl Bode
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Re: I don't understand why the FCC was so big on this technology
I think by and large it served as a way to justify policies that essentially just gave AT&T and Verizon whatever they lobbied for -- with very few exceptions.
By shilling for BPL, they could use their own shilling for BPL as evidence they were trying to foster additional competition in the space, the actual viability of the technology be damned...
In other words, showmanship. |
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N3OGH
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Philly burbs
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Re: Eat your cake and have it, too.
I think the duality you so quickly point out shows a level of objectiveness.
If it's good regulation, the regulation can be good.
If it's Kevin Martin's latest shitbag coverup, then it's lousy regulation...
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N3OGH
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If regulation kills puppies, then de regulation eats little kittens.  (And calm down please, folks. It's a funny...)
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N3OGH
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Re: Google
said by KraziJoe :I am still awaiting Google's Sewer internet service! Oh shit....
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tschmidt
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Milford, NH
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Re: I don't understand why the FCC was so big on this technology
I've never understood the advantage of Power Line broadband vs setting up a WISP. Same thing with HomePlug power line LAN vs WiFi.
The equipment to launch and receive BPL is not all that different then over the air. Power lines are not very good waveguide.
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tschmidt
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Re: Google
said by KraziJoe :I am still awaiting Google's Sewer internet service! Running fiber in sewers is a very cost effective way to deploy fiber. Same with abandoned gas and steam pipes.
/tom |
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rob11252
join:2006-09-08
Macomb, MI
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Re: I don't understand why the FCC was so big on this technology
I do. It was a deliberate bet on a dead horse, thus protecting incumbents. If somebody complained that FCC did not foster competition, they could easily deny it, knowing with absolute certainty that it would never get of the ground and challenge incumbents. Mission accomplished, Mr. Martin! |
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DavePR
join:2008-06-04
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Re: Google
said by tschmidt :said by KraziJoe :I am still awaiting Google's Sewer internet service! Running fiber in sewers is a very cost effective way to deploy fiber. Same with abandoned gas and steam pipes. /tom Clayton Williams started a huge long distance company with fiber inside of gas pipelines. |
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