expert007
join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY | In the words of the Guiness Beer Guys....
Brilliant!!  |
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Id do it
Can someone come run fiber to my house? There is a trench in my yard already.... |
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blips
join:2001-04-17
Addison, IL | Bonding??
My guess is the churn rate is so low because fiber is that much better than the alternative not because they dug their own trench. |
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Madness
Like a flea circus at a dog show.
join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Why Not?
If I lived there, I'd pull out my shovel & dig. Or get a neighbor who works @ a cemetery to do it! 
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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 ·VOIPo
| said by Madness  :If I lived there, I'd pull out my shovel & dig. Or get a neighbor who works @ a cemetery to do it! Nah, spend $100 for the day and rent a trencher. Put in some other needed lines while you have it. |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA | Day Labor
Too bad Norway does not have Spanish-speaking day laborers hanging out at 7/11's in droves. Customers could get their houses wired for $20 each. I suppose this would only work in the summer. There isn't much "day" in the winter at that latitude. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
|  Stupid idea since vendor has trenching tools
This is NOT a good idea. The ISP and/or their installation vendor have purpose built trenching tools that make very short work of laying a trench on customer property. Very few homeowners would have those tools. Also, how many customers will contact the One-call authority before digging, thereby exposing other underground utilities to damage.
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to baineschile
Re: Id do it
said by baineschile :Can someone come run fiber to my house? There is a trench in my yard already.... A trench? In Norway, I think the code requires a fjord.  |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Stupid idea since vendor has trenching tools
I just had an unmarked van pull up to my house the weekend before the scheduled install date with a crew of non-English speaking gentlemen with some shovels. Real high tech stuff, I tell ya.
Who needs to call before you dig? If you get wet, you found a water line; if you get shocked, you found a power line; if it smells like a fart, you hit a sewer line; and if it smells like a fart and then you explode, you hit a gas line. Oh yeah, and in my particular case, if the phones in your home lose their dial tone, then a telephone line was cut. Hmmm? Perhaps Verizon should have sent out a better trained crew after all? |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
·PenTeleData
·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
Are you a carpenter? Because you hit the nail on the head.
To trench and run the cable myself I will have to rent a backhoe or ditch witch for $600/day. Not to mention I'd either have to hire someone to do it or do it myself.
Paying the utility $400 to do it is a bargain, especially since they'll get the job done right and be liable for any damage they do to other utilities. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to TKJunkMail
from my experience in tech support, most customers would call in asking how to use a shovel...
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andyross
join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL
| reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207 :Who needs to call before you dig? If you get wet, you found a water line; if you get shocked, you found a power line; if it smells like a fart, you hit a sewer line; and if it smells like a fart and then you explode, you hit a gas line. Oh yeah, and in my particular case, if the phones in your home lose their dial tone, then a telephone line was cut. Hmmm? Perhaps Verizon should have sent out a better trained crew after all? I hope you are joking. By calling a marking service (here in Illinois outside of Chicago, it's J.U.L.I.E) and you hit something that is NOT marked, they take responsibility. If you hit something and didn't have the area marked, you can be fined and sued. |
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BVirulent
join:2008-09-25
Grants Pass, OR | reply to jmn1207
Re: Day Labor
Ha! |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | How about this....
You allow me to dig a trench all the way back to the CO or remote terminal so I can get fiber. |
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to jmn1207
Re: Stupid idea since vendor has trenching tools
LOL (i actually did laugh out loud at that post) |
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Seph83
Gone Insane
Premium
join:2004-04-29
Blairsville, GA
·Windstream
| reply to Skippy25
Re: How about this....
I'll drink to that one! The local power company told me they'd run fiber to my house, and give me up to 200 feet for free... too bad they charge $1 a foot for the other 1300 feet from their node. I almost asked them if they'd give me a deal if I dug the ditch myself. Backhoe rental is about $100 a day, so it'd be a heck of a lot cheaper.
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tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
 ·Hollis Hosting
·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Stupid idea since vendor has trenching tools
I disagree, think it is a great idea from vendor/customer cost saving and marketing perspective. I'm surprised DIY customer take rate is as high as reported. I would have thought once folks look at what it takes to bury the cable they would decide to let the vendor do it. Even if customer decides not to DIY it's still a great way to defuse resistance to high one time construction cost.
When we built our home we were responsible for digging the trench and back filling with utility approved material. Phone company just dropped off a spool of direct burial cable.
I agree about the potential Dig-Safe (that is what we call it in NH)problem prior to digging.
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grcore
New and Improved
join:2003-12-06
usa
| reply to andyross
Friend of mine was putting in a deck, called JULIE before augering the post holes. Still hit the power line feed into the house (was just on the 18" limit of the marking).
ComEd came in and hand dug a new feed, for free. Guy that came out said, if they get the marking done they don't bother charging you for the repair if you do hit the line anyway. |
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LJGoose
join:2008-08-31
Middle Island, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207 :I just had an unmarked van pull up to my house the weekend before the scheduled install date with a crew of non-English speaking gentlemen with some shovels. Real high tech stuff, I tell ya. Who needs to call before you dig? If you get wet, you found a water line; if you get shocked, you found a power line; if it smells like a fart, you hit a sewer line; and if it smells like a fart and then you explode, you hit a gas line. Oh yeah, and in my particular case, if the phones in your home lose their dial tone, then a telephone line was cut. Hmmm? Perhaps Verizon should have sent out a better trained crew after all? I laughed my ass off at this. I can't stop laughing. |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
·Cingular Wireless
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to jmn1207
said by jmn1207 :I just had an unmarked van pull up to my house the weekend before the scheduled install date with a crew of non-English speaking gentlemen with some shovels. Real high tech stuff, I tell ya. Who needs to call before you dig? If you get wet, you found a water line; if you get shocked, you found a power line; if it smells like a fart, you hit a sewer line; and if it smells like a fart and then you explode, you hit a gas line. Oh yeah, and in my particular case, if the phones in your home lose their dial tone, then a telephone line was cut. Hmmm? Perhaps Verizon should have sent out a better trained crew after all? xDxD.... that was good |
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