Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| 100/100?
"Using light waves to carry digital signals, Smithville’s new FTTH system will transmit data approaching the speed of light—about 186,000 miles per second—with upload and download speeds up to 100 Mbps."
Interesting comment they make. I can understand the "up to", but that's a bit of a stretch if they do not plan on offering upload speeds near 100Mbps.
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | Nobody company
Well look at that a no name company can do what the big boys can't and/or won't do. If that's not a reason for another break up of bells I don't know what is. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | There need to breakup the co's. Make the last mile, consumer based, so the resident owns the equipment. |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | that wouldn't work because then youd have people say um I don't want to and hold up the whole neighbor hood |
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bn1221
join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to DaveNJ
90 million Fiber-To-The-Home (FTTH) overbuild for all of its 30,000 residential customers in the south-central and southern part of the state.
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That is 3 grand a pop (90million/30,000) JUST for phase one. That is a large capital cost. |
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DrModem
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2 edits | And they obviously think it's worth it.
Also some math, if they charge $30/month it would take 8.3 years for each customer to have their base 3k share paid off. That's not all that much time, especially for a technology that's probably going to be around for decades and still be fast enough. And the bigger customers (IE the ones doing 100/100) will probably be getting charged way more than $30/month.
If they do speed packages right I'm sure they will be able to steal tons of customers from any Cable, WISP or other competition they have with minimal trouble. Especially if the cable is TW  |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
·Comcast
·Patriot Media
| reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix  :that wouldn't work because then youd have people say um I don't want to and hold up the whole neighbor hood Not the point, A last mile corp would offer to wire, or maintain the served area. The resident would lease the infrastructure from the corporation. |
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WiseOldNerd
De gustibus non est disputandum
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join:2001-11-25
Phoenix, AZ | Could They Buy Qwest?
WOW. Now if they could only leverage a purchase of Qwest and bring that doddering fool of a company into the 21st Century.
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IowaStudent
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join:2008-08-21
Grinnell, IA
·Mediacom
·Iowa Telecom
1 edit | How about they buy Iowa Telecom?
I'm not an economic's person but if somebody wants to let me know if that's possible their stock symbol is IWA
I from a town of 9000 people and they are servicing 5700 with 100 Meg Internet?  |
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | reply to DrModem
Re: Nobody company
If they may be planning to abandon the copper plant that will save money in the long run.
Plus they may start offering TV in addition to phone and internet. |
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | reply to WiseOldNerd
Re: Could They Buy Qwest?
If anything they would be setting themselves up to be purchased. What would a phone company go for that has already put fios in place. |
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jadebangle
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join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS | Price??? 299?399?
It wouldn't be for residential use
More like small business who need super fast connection and can afford to pay for it |
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mtech
join:2002-10-20
Jonesboro, AR
| reply to dcurrey
Re: Nobody company
"Called Fiber-to-the-Home, Smithville’s all-new technology platform will give customers the ability to access the Internet, voice, and television and web based television services at a speed much faster than currently available to most residential customers anywhere in the United States—in rural or urban areas."
The press release announces that they are planning TV, phone and internet. |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| reply to DrModem
ya $30/month would likely be a slower service
lets assume that they have a whole range of services and just to make it even with other offers out there lets say that their top pack is 100/100+TV+VoIP for $150 (ya just a random price but go with it)
lets say the averages endup being as though 50topend/50lowend
so lets say $90/month per house passed
so 2.7 years ROI
and as its fiber the biggest part of the cost is likely the fiber itsself so a greater speed upgrade would be easy |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Rob
Re: 100/100?
said by Rob :"Using light waves to carry digital signals, Smithville’s new FTTH system will transmit data approaching the speed of light—about 186,000 miles per second— with upload and download speeds up to 100 Mbps." Considering that electricity in a wire travels at close to the speed of light (with variations caused by the particular wire's propagation velocity) their PR hack might want to get more familiar with the product before writing such silly ad copy. There is certainly a higher benefit to hype besides this...
Good to see the little guys out there holding class for how to do it right. Smithville has been unafraid to try new things for some time now. They are a local, privately held corporation and live where the serve, so they don't have to submit to Wall Street's quarterly floggings either. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
 ·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to mtech
Re: Nobody company
Triple play bundles run around $100 to start, maybe $80 or $90 if it's really basic. Premium content and internet might edge the price up to around $150. $3k doesn't look so bad after all, especially when that's an alternative to people going elsewhere (to cable due to lousy DSL speeds, to cellular or cable for voice, to cable or sat for TV). It's a lot of new revenue due to the buildout... |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| reply to dcurrey
It's great they are going to offer fiber to their customers. Don't get the idea these companies like this one are in it for the greater good of the consumer. These companies are often worse than the big ILECs in terms of a monopoly. I have never dealt with these guys but often these smaller ILECs will bend you over when you need business class services. Try getting a point to point T1 into one of these small LECs and see how bad many of them will screw you.
We pay 3 to 4 times the price on a T1 that terminates in one of these little CLECs as apposed to a Bell or Verizon C0. In some cases I understand when the LEC is in the middle of no where with a small number of customers, but in most cases they gouge your eyes out simply because they can. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to jadebangle
Re: Price??? 299?399?
It may end up being quite expensive (who knows...pricing isn't available yet) but having the infrastructure available is a big plus, since that way Smithville merely has to up their backbone and provisioning settings and they can blow any competition (except other fiber of course) out of the water.
Also, if you're a business which would you rather have, 100/100 fiber or a T1, given the same cost for either? I'd pick the fiber  |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: Nobody company
said by DaveNJ :A last mile corp would offer to wire, or maintain the served area. The resident would lease the infrastructure from the corporation. There is nothing stopping any number of companies from doing that right now. I think the biggest hurdle is that its not really a viable business model at this point. The overwhelming majority of people are happy with their $20 DSL/Cable 'lite' tier, and if faced with the option of paying up to a few thousand dollars just for additional internet choices they wont do it.
The other major issue (as I have pointed out before) is that even assuming the entire neighborhood is wired, the nearest carrier hotel could be a few hundred miles away. The price for that longhaul circuit could easily run $50k or more (per month), depending on how rural the area is. Once you factor in the tremendous MRC the whole thing becomes a lot less palatable.
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morbo
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| reply to bn1221
said by bn1221 :That is 3 grand a pop (90million/30,000) JUST for phase one. That is a large capital cost. reasonable for a completely new system. cost is x2 or x3 as much as Verizon or AT&T. they don't quite have the buying or bargaining power of one of the entrenched telcos. |
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