Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | That company is finished
I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| said by Eat Me  :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. I can, becuase it's not all about speeds and some people could care less. Many people aren't going to see the metered billing now so that battle has been won.
To me, the way I read this, is like Karl said, they're pouting. This is just the next move in a PR campaign. If people stepped back and do NOT respond to this and further force the issue, ie: putting more fuel on their fire, DS3 will come out.
They're eventually going to have to renew their franchise agreements and the local governments, those people that actually are forced to live with those services, are going to speak up. The local levels tend to be more effective than the feds anyway.
It is, however, funny to watch these same PR games played out in public and how they can flame bait the public and government and keep their agenda's moving forward, in the exact direction they want. The best way to deal with THIS particular move is to ignore them. Fight the metered billing front, but this "we're not deploying DS3" card should be ignored. |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
| reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. There is one advantage that they have that keeps them alive - and that is that they serve areas where there is virtually no competition which forces consumers to subscribe to their service.
If it wasn't for Comcast, my fastest Internet would be 1.5/256 from AT&T. And that's been the fastest that they offer since BellSouth started offering Internet in my area. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL | reply to Eat Me
They will plenty of subs since the majority of their subs probably haven't even noticed the broadband storm going on. The small minority that can will jump ship if they haven't already. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Comcast should just buy them out
Now is the time to put TW out, Comcast offer them something, like a suitcase, not full of money, just a suitcase.
TW customers should just cancel and move to Dish or Fios. |
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roc5955
Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY | Call the whaaambulance!
My heart bleeds for them!
They get greedy, and it's gonna hurt them.
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"Understanding is a three-edged sword." |
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cooldude9919
join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
clubs:
| Funny
What can you do at this point but laugh? Cue "Your doing it wrong" pictures.
I bet all the other big boys are pissy at time warner for all the bad press capping is getting now. No one else (comcast, charter, att) had this much fallout when their plans where announced. Whoever at time warner came up with this plan isnt very smart, and the big highly paid execs that went along with it should have known better. |
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dforan
join:2000-12-09
Willoughby, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to Eat Me
Re: That company is finished
said by Eat Me :I can't imagine TWC having any customers when this whole fiasco is over. Where I live there is NO OPTION accept AT&T DSL. The city fathers saw to that in their awarding service to a single provider so they will have some grumpy clients like  |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| You can keep it, then, Time Warner.
If you're going to set the monthly caps THAT low, I have no need for speeds above the 15/2 that you're able to offer on DOCSIS 1/2 now.
I'd much rather have unmetered 15/2 than a 30/5 connection limited to a paltry 100GB/month. At 30mbps I could blow 100GB in just 8 hours:
30mbps = 3.75MB/sec = 225MB/min = 13.5GB/hr
They clearly aren't thinking this through. They're trying to stifle any sort of innovation that would drive people to go for the faster tiers in the first place. If all they want me to do is check my email and surf, I may as well stick with the budget tier.
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AT&T U-Hearse
Your funeral. Delivered.
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apok86
join:2006-09-09
Minneapolis, MN | Caps?
What good is DS3 with caps? |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: Comcast should just buy them out
They can't. The FCC prohibits Comcast from owning more than 30% of US cable systems.
»arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/02/8935.ars
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AT&T U-Hearse
Your funeral. Delivered.
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axiomatic
join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX
| Bluffing
Don't believe the TW bluff here people. Docsis 3.0 is coming no matter what. Income from this one test market will not enable/deter Docsis 3.0 in the test markets.
Pure 100% uncut schadenfreude.
TW are acting like babies who lost their wubby. |
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morgan1112
join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX
| DOCSIS 3.0
Why doesn't Time Warner just announce they will upgrade everyone to the new standard by 2010 and raise everyone's bill by $2 a month to pay for it? How profitable is it for them to tick off all their customers, get bad press and continue to announce decisions that are stupid and unpopular. Time Warner really needs to get their act together. What kind of idiots are running that company anyway? I would not be surprised if some of those morons running AOL into the ground were cross promoted into management at Time Warner. |
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parkds
@rr.com
| TWC VP of PR
According to an article over on Engadget, someone tweeted with Alex Dudley, TWC's VP of PR, to ask if DOCSIS 3.0 will launch without cbb tiers and this was his response:
@gigastacey it was scheduled as part of cbb trial, but we all know how you feel about that.
TWC either has it's head in a bag or has the worst PR person ever...or a combination. Thanks TWC for not modernizing your network because we didn't roll over and allow your cbb. |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
1 edit | Time Warner FINALLY learned the #1 rule of selling!
Give the customer what THEY want! |
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DarkLogix
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX | reply to djrobx
Re: Comcast should just buy them out
Give someone a $#!7 load of venture capital and tell them to buy TW and COX |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to djrobx
Then maybe this should be used to revisit that ruling. Now while I'm not in favor of Comcast having a monopoly, I'm certainly more disturbed at the blatant extortion tactics of Time Warner.
Now would be a real good time to get some of our representatives educated on the business of technical matters.
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"When I was in junior high school, the teachers voted me the student most likely to end up in the electric chair."---Sylvestor Stallone |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | I think its time for that ruling to be lifted, and allow the cable the same latitude as Verizon and ATT. Since both provide basicaly the same product. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| DOCSIS3 is a Strawman
While they can claim to eventually deploy DOCSIS3 (the latest Buzz Word), look at what they CURRENTLY offer. 5/.768 is their top tier leaving lots of room for increased DOCSIS2 speeds before they would need to offer DOCSIS3 to increase their speed tiers.
In my area (NYC Metro, Northern NJ west of NYC, and the Westchester/Rockland Counties North of NYC) you either are in a TWC or a Cablevision/OptOnline Cable Monopoly area [I am ignoring the FIOS that is being offered in that same footprint] where TWC has pathetic DOCSIS2 speed tiers and CV has Standard 15/2 and Boost 30/5 DOCSIS2 Tiers (that show what CAN be offered before DOCSIS3 is needed for increased speeds).
Since the DOCSIS2 upload max is 27Mbs, this means that even with DOCSIS2 there is major room for a faster upload tiers (such as 30/10 or 30/15) without needing to roll out DOCSIS3 (which would allow an upload max of 108Mbs). |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | Do they hire executives from per-school now?
Sounds alot like a kid throwing a tempur tantrum to me. |
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