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2 edits |  Amazing.... Abuse of Power
Does Germany have laws on the books saying it's illegal to embarrass their Government/mein Führer by publishing the truth?
The more Governments try to suppress wrong doing, the more sites like Wikileaks are needed!
The only reason I can think of for Governments to be concerned about internet censorship blacklists getting published is because they are censoring things they aren't supposed to or don't want their citizens to know about.
IE Abuse of power and corruption... and if that is the case, then that means all the more reason they SHOULD be published so the citizenry can find out.
This is a classic example of the Free Press doing exactly what it supposed to do. Thumbs up, Wikileaks!
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Wow $uk that. Hope they had backups and were smart about it. |
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If the Gov does wrong the people should know! |
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anony101
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Re: DAMN
Once information is on the internet there is no way to control it. By now many many people all over the world have a copy of those documents. |
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"Wikileaks needs YOU to help us fight the good fight. Keep us independent and strong!"
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SLD
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Wow...that Nazis are back in control already??? |
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P Ness
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| Nuff said
on one of the list
-partypoker.com
so the list are not just child porn
found
- adult porn sites
- teen model sites
- poker sites
- anti govt blogs
sigh.
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KrK
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| They tell people it's to stop Child Porn or Terrorists.
Then they just can't help adding "Anti Government" sites, IE free speech. Once they have the system in place, it seems like they just can't resist abusing it....
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Re: Amazing.... Abuse of Power
said by KrK  :Does Germany have laws on the books saying it's illegal to embarrass their Government/mein Führer by publishing the truth? The irony in your stupid comment is that most of the laws limiting free speech in Germany have to do with right-radicals not being able to profess their love for Hitler, and for denying the Holocaust.
The more Governments try to suppress wrong doing, the more sites like Wikileaks are needed! Very, very true.
The only reason I can think of for Governments to be concerned about internet censorship blacklists getting published is because they are censoring things they aren't supposed to or don't want their citizens to know about.
In Germany's case, this mostly applies to right-wing sites that frequently support nazi-like tendencies.
IE Abuse of power and corruption... and if that is the case, then that means all the more reason they SHOULD be published so the citizenry can find out. Governments aren't afraid of that information getting out. A perfect example being the United States. We all know that our government is corrupt and abuses its power constantly, yet good luck finding a single newspaper mention the words "our government" and "corrupt" in the same sentence.
This is a classic example of the Free Press doing exactly what it supposed to do. Thumbs up, Wikileaks!
Agreed.
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Re: Nuff said
said by KrK :Once they have the system in place, it seems like they just can't resist abusing it.... You have it backwards. The "abuse' was the system's PURPOSE. The child porn/terrorist stuff was just an excuse. |
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Re: Nazis?
said by SLD :Wow...that Nazis are back in control already??? Maybe you should read up on the #1 topic that the German government censors:
Nazi and racist organizations.
...And they say Americans aren't informed about the rest of the modern world...
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Re: Nuff said
said by russotto :said by KrK :Once they have the system in place, it seems like they just can't resist abusing it.... You have it backwards. The "abuse' was the system's PURPOSE. The child porn/terrorist stuff was just an excuse. Actually.... I think you're right.
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KrK
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Re: Amazing.... Abuse of Power
Sorry, it wasn't stupid. It was chosen for just the right feel, actually. |
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said by tiger72 :A perfect example being the United States. We all know that our government is corrupt and abuses its power constantly, yet good luck finding a single newspaper mention the words "our government" and "corrupt" in the same sentence. Well, I'd say often, yes that is the case... and often it is because much of the Newspapers in this country are owned by corporations who have vested interests in some of that corruption, unfortunately.
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Re: Nazis?
They are hyper-sensitive on that subject, for example they went after ebay for allowing collectible memorabilia from WWII that has Nazi/SS logos, imagery, propaganda, etc
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Re: Nuff said
said by P Ness :on one of the list -partypoker.com so the list are not just child porn Everyone knows that poker is the gateway to child pornography.  |
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SLD
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Re: Nazis?
Ironic, isn't it? Acting like Nazis about Nazis... |
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| said by SLD :Ironic, isn't it? Acting like Nazis about Nazis... Not really - look at the incoming ultra-nationalist parties in Israel... acting exactly like Nazis... |
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| First rule...
Apparently the first rule about censorship is that you do NOT talk about censorship...
It's time for everyone to realize how important whistle blower sites like wikileaks are and it's time for other people to start branches of Wikileaks in case they get shut down, they can't shut down EVERY whistle blower site.
Down with corruption
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