S_engineer
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Chicago, IL | Nothing is sacred...
Why don't people change the defaults....I guess alpha-numeric is too big of a concept to grasp! |
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Eat Me
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Sussex, NJ | It's our plug and play culture. People just want to plug in things and have them work.
Security? What's that? |
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | reply to S_engineer
I am in range of 3 wireless networks. 2 of them are close enough to connect to. Even logged into routers. Guess I should change the default password for them at least. |
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ztmike
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1 edit | default
Okay..yes this a is a n00b question..but how do you change the default password on a wrt54g? I been meaning to do it but haven't bothered to look up how..
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pnh102
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Re: Nothing is sacred...
said by S_engineer  :Why don't people change the defaults....I guess alpha-numeric is too big of a concept to grasp! Probably because there's no real incentive to do so. ISPs won't disconnect users who do not take security seriously.
However, most off-the-shelf routers have these ports plugged by default. The same usually goes for remote access to the router. In most cases, someone would have to go out of their way to open these ports or enable remote web access to a router.
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aefstoggaflm
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said by dcurrey :I am in range of 3 wireless networks. 2 of them are close enough to connect to. Even logged into routers. Guess I should change the default password for them at least. I would not do that, if I were you.
Because connecting to another network that you do not own is illegal.
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SSX4life
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um..... i've got DDWRT v. 24 but no defaults and a fairly heavy password.
should I disable SSH even though I use it from time to time? =/
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aefstoggaflm
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Re: default
said by ztmike :Okay..yes this a is a n00b question..but how do you change the default password on a wrt54g? I been meaning to do it but haven't bothered to look up how.. After you log in to the router, go to Administration -> Management
The screen will look something like this
»ui.linksys.com/files/WRT54G/v1-v···ment.htm
Enter in the new password two times (Router Password and Re-enter to confirm).
Click save.
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SSX4life
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1 edit | FYI, DDWRT has both of these turned on by default.
Don't need em, disable em. |
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pnh102
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Re: Nothing is sacred...
said by SSX4life :should I disable SSH even though I use it from time to time? =/ Personally I use a VPN to get into my home network. I used to have SSH open when I had a linux box on the other end but I disabled root logins and had a pretty strong password for the other accounts. I never had a problem.
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ztmike
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Re: default
said by aefstoggaflm :said by ztmike :Okay..yes this a is a n00b question..but how do you change the default password on a wrt54g? I been meaning to do it but haven't bothered to look up how.. After you log in to the router, go to Administration -> ManagementThe screen will look something like this » ui.linksys.com/files/WRT54G/v1-v···ment.htmEnter in the new password two times ( Router Password and Re-enter to confirm). Click save. Yea, I just saw that, wasn't sure if that was the right one or not. Thanks.
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Kilroy
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join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI | Targeting Dumb People?
Then I guess they will have a plethora of targets. God loves dumb people, look at how many he made.
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tubbynet
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| niche market?
pardon my ignorance in this area - but how many consumer level routers actually *have* telnet/ssh options? afaik, only routers that run ddwrt/xwrt/openwrt/tomato/etc have such options available and if you are running something like that, you *should* know how to secure your router. i could see something like m0n0wall/pfsense/etc, but the same argument can be made.
am i missing something or is this just pure laziness from (quasi-)technical people?
q.
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Eat Me
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Re: Nothing is sacred...
said by pnh102 :Probably because there's no real incentive to do so. ISPs won't disconnect users who do not take security seriously. That's because they'd lose 3/4 of their customer base. ISPs these days cater primarily to non computer savvy people. Unfortunately we the computer savvy folks get lumped in with them too. |
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dadkins
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join:2003-09-26
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Re: Targeting Dumb People?
said by Kilroy :Then I guess they will have a plethora of targets. God loves dumb people, look at how many he made. ROFL! Ya think? 
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Dave547457
@verizon.net | Dumb people?
I don't think people who don't change the defaults are necessarily dumb. |
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PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
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Re: Nothing is sacred...
said by aefstoggaflm :said by dcurrey :I am in range of 3 wireless networks. 2 of them are close enough to connect to. Even logged into routers. Guess I should change the default password for them at least. I would not do that, if I were you. Because connecting to another network that you do not own is illegal. That's not entirely accurate.
First of all, there's no federal law as of yet of such and such cases are being handled on either a state by state or municipality by municipality case basis.
Secondly, connecting to another network you do not known is not illegal. "Maliciously" connecting to another network you do not own is illegal.
Additionally, Simply the wording alone of what you stated is too broad and makes the entire premise of the internet illegal, after all, aren't you merely "connecting to another network that you do not own"? |
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PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
1 edit | reply to SSX4life
said by SSX4life :um..... i've got DDWRT v. 24 but no defaults and a fairly heavy password. should I disable SSH even though I use it from time to time? =/ Yes. I'd suggest just using a VPN and Telnet. I used to keep a PPTP server open for myself. |
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PapaMidnight
join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
| reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me :It's our plug and play culture. People just want to plug in things and have them work. Security? What's that? Heh, 5 networks in range of me at home are still carrying the SSID's:
linksys
d-link
belkin
eHome |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
2 edits | reply to tubbynet
Re: niche market?
Surprisingly a lot have remote telnet/ssh options. They are disabled by default, but it's very simple to just check the box next to them.
Personally I think the check box should be disabled if the password hasn't been changed or isn't deemed "good enough".
edit - Oops I confused remote web interface with remote shell. So no, most consumer devices do not have a built in remote shell.
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