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Comments on news posted 2009-03-09 18:34:27: Over the weekend, complaints emerged and bubbled over that Verizon Wireless had cooked up a new pile of fine print regarding their use of customer information, and was sending out letters to customers telling them they had 45-days to "opt out" of hav.. ..

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Its a Secret
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 LMAO!

"Public shame will keep them honest"?

That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Since when do these companies get ruled by shame? They're shameless!
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"In the future, that which is not mandatory will be illegal"

RadioDoc
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Wasn't "public shame" supposed to keep banks and the stock market honest, too?


Arctic nut

join:2006-11-26
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reply to Its a Secret
Privacy no longer exists if it stands in the way of the almighty dollar.


Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen

join:2003-08-12
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reply to Its a Secret
Seriously. Didn't Verizon promise Pennsylvania a statewide fiber network a decade or so ago in exchange for preferential treatment regarding regulations... and then subsequently stiff the state once it got what it wanted?

People feel shame. Corporations feel nothing.
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dadkins
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said by Rogue Wolf See Profile :

Seriously. Didn't Verizon promise Pennsylvania a statewide fiber network a decade or so ago in exchange for preferential treatment regarding regulations... and then subsequently stiff the state once it got what it wanted?

People feel shame. Corporations feel nothing.
Yes! They did!
Here we are years down the road and much of PA is still sitting on their thumbs.
No one wants to remember the shady side of VZ.
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Think outside the Fox... Opera

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to RadioDoc
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Wasn't "public shame" supposed to keep banks and the stock market honest, too?
Well WaMu had a run.

bus7821

join:2003-08-07
San Pedro, CA

reply to RadioDoc
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Wasn't "public shame" supposed to keep banks and the stock market honest, too?
In the case of the banks, good business practices would have have been sufficient, but the higher ups got caught up in the speculative bubble and started gambling with the money they were responsible for. When you ignore or misuse your own risk calculations, you are caught in a gambling fever that overrides lesser emotions, like shame.


Its a Secret
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It's only shameful if you get caught.


gdogg

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Messed

Um, am I the only one thinking an OPT-Out system should be criminal, if they do it, the company must leave the usa forever, deported back to mexico

Seriously, OPT-IN , in big fat letters, that even a 100th generation inbred can understand should be the only way my information can be sold.

rnikischer

join:2002-12-28
Ottawa, IL
·magicjack.com
·Vonage

My Verizon Customers Can Opt Out Online - I Just Did

Log in to your My Verizon Account, click the My Profile Tab, then scroll down under the "Phone Controls" Section - you will see a sentence with a hyperlink that says: "Your privacy is important to us. You have ability to change your privacy(CPNI) Settings. What's This?
View/Edit Privacy(CPNI) Settings" Click this link and it will take you to the Customer Proprietary Network Information Settings Page. Your phone number(s) will be listed with a radio button next to each that indicates NO to sharing your CPNI or OK to sharing it. Make your choice and click the Submit button.

No doubt that this takes several steps and they didn't make it easy to find but it beats having the hassle of calling and getting jerked around.

Hope this helps everyone out.

Ralph

kkkk40us

join:2001-09-20
Astoria, NY
dont see this phone controls section where is it?

lordofwhee

join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA
reply to Its a Secret
Re: LMAO!

Where have YOU been the past six months?

rnikischer

join:2002-12-28
Ottawa, IL
reply to kkkk40us
Phone Controls Section Location

Right underneath the "My Profile" section around the middle of the page.


maartena
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reply to Arctic nut
Re: LMAO!

said by Arctic nut See Profile :

Privacy no longer exists
Actually, only those who have NO internet connection and NO cell phone.... can still have some privacy these days. No one will be able to find anything on my grandma.


h7

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reply to Its a Secret
said by Its a Secret See Profile :

"Public shame will keep them honest"?

That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Since when do these companies get ruled by shame? They're shameless!
Heh, right about that. Serious I think that public shame is the one thing that keeps them going, what gets their nuts off, but most definitely never did nor ever does indeed keep them honest. :P

h#7

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
thats almost sounds like bell canada

GO use the website, go there login and guess what yo end up getting a reply back from bell tv asking for a pin number when you haven't had tv.
HAHA
yaaaaa

i feel like just saying NEIT
( monty python)

old_wiz_60

join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to rnikischer
Re: My Verizon Customers Can Opt Out Online - I Just Did

This option does not show up on 'my verizon'/My Profile. there is no 'phone controls' section. Maybe it only shows up in states where verizon has been forced to do it. I'm in Mass.

I always assume Verizon will sell any and all info they can collect about users as long as someone will pay for it.

The profile page at 'my verizon' says you can opt out of special offers, but this only applies to e-mail. You still can get weekly calls from Verizon offering new services and trying to get you to upgrade. Verizon says that the 'do not call' does NOT apply to them since they have a business relationship with you, so they can call as often as they wish to offer you special deals. I've begged them to stop, but they don't so whenever I see Verizon on caller-id I ignore the call. They do leave messages on the machine, so I just erase them without listening.

andyross

join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL
Also got note from AT&T

I also got a CPNI note, but this was a separate snail mail postcard from AT&T.

I just called the 800 number, which is automated. Follow the prompts and you are done.


Jason Levine
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USA

We opted out

My wife called to opt us out. The first time she called, she couldn't get through (the number didn't work). The second time, she got through and opted us out.

I posted to Twitter about it and ended up in an online argument with someone calling me paranoid about this whole thing. They claimed that the fine print specified that Verizon doesn't give the information to third parties. I countered that the actual fine print says "CPNI will not be shared with unrelated third parties." That's not all third parties, but "unrelated" third parties. Exactly what does unrelated mean? Does it just mean that the third party hasn't signed on to become an "affiliate" or "agent" yet? I don't like the vagueness of the language and I think that it is quite reasonable to have a touch of paranoia when it comes to big businesses and your privacy.
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FLengineer
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For now.. But what about the future?

"the information is only shared within Verizon and Vodafone"

That may true right now but "45-days to "opt out" of having this information shared with "affiliates, agents and parent companies." means there's nothing to stop them from making say... NebuAd an affiliate.
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