R0CKY
TSI Rocky
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join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
| Crappy situation for sure...
This is not a good situation for ISPs no matter how you look at it!
Not sure about the profiting comment as the increase in consumption that would occur in most cases would have been absorbed in the rates due to competition, so this particular effort would only compound the problem for the industry. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC |  $16.6 Million an Arm and Leg?
I don't think the ISPs should play content cops, but come on, I find it hard to believe $16.6 million is an arm and a leg for France Telecom, who has a market cap of $57 BILLION. |
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Maynarg G Krebs
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Re: Crappy situation for sure...
ISP's should send a bill to the XXIA's for each instance that they process.
The bill should be just as fair and detailed as your average lawyer's bill for a high-value service:
eg.
For services related to identifying an alleged infringing IP address -- $10,000
For review services pursuant to DMCA and any other relevant legislation -- $20,000
For postage and handling -- $200
Our total fee for this incident -- $30,200
Due upon receipt or we'll sue your ass. |
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El Quintron
Could you spare a consulting gig?
join:2008-04-28
Etobicoke, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Acanac
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Re: $16.6 Million an Arm and Leg?
said by Matt :I don't think the ISPs should play content cops, but come on, I find it hard to believe $16.6 million is an arm and a leg for France Telecom, who has a market cap of $57 BILLION. Irrespective of the fact that you're making ISP pay to punish their customers. So not only are you making the ISP pay the cost of investigation, but you're asking them to shut off a revenue stream.
So they're paying 16.6 Million to ensure the loss of another 100 million.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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1 edit | Illegal, crooked laws, bought by the corrupt RIAA/MPAA-mob..
... and supposed to be footed by the customers?
Truly breathtaking - just HOW MUCH LONGER WE'RE GOING TO TOLERATE THIS CORPORATE TAKEOVER, this ILLEGAL HOLLYWOOD-mob?
This is a classic RICO-case - are the feds building their case against MPAA/RIAA already?
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Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast
1 edit | reply to Matt
Re: $16.6 Million an Arm and Leg?
ISPs need to be in the moving data around business and not in the judge, jury, and executioner business.
Courts are in the judge, jury, and executioner business.
ISPs are in the moving data around business.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | ISPs profiting?
Do all the ISPs in France charge per the kilobyte? If not, there is no profit in the type of traffic. |
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TheKnossos
join:2003-05-14
Fort Worth, TX
1 edit | reply to Airwolf7
Re: $16.6 Million an Arm and Leg?
From ISP, To RIAA:
Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said "Piracy Police"?!
You know why you didn't see that sign? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to Matt
Re: $16.6 Million an Arm and Leg?
said by Matt :I don't think the ISPs should play content cops, but come on, I find it hard to believe $16.6 million is an arm and a leg for France Telecom, who has a market cap of $57 BILLION. Even so, it's not the ISPs that are causing the so-called problems that the RIAA are claiming. I don't believe that the ISPs should have to pay anything to monitory anything for anyone.
In the US, you are innocent until proven guilty. I know this is a story about France, however, here in the U.S. they are trying to insinuate that everyone is guilty in advance and are trying to take preventative measures to stop pirating.
If the ISPs are forced to patrol this, at their own expense, what happens when some other industry wants THEIR interests looked after? and then the next.. and so on.
This is what I would think of as an un-funded mandate, and it's just wrong.
It's not the job of the ISP to patrol the content on the internet. Personally, I can see privacy issues playing a part here as well. Again, they're inspecting data being sent over the lines and trying to discriminate against that data, etc. They're asked to turn over information with out a court order...
I'm not one for piracy, however, I do see this as part of the cat and mouse game that is, quite honestly, required to be played. If they want the data, if they want the information on the subscriber for allegedly transferring music, etc.. let them prove their case in a court of law with law enforcement agencies and get the proper warrants like anyone else.
In this case, I sac screw the **AA and their whining. They can join the ranks of the failed unions in the auto industry that in their own attempt and failed policies in which is dragging the car makers down into ruin for all I care... the music industry is NOT important, for me, to care enough. |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| reply to Matt
said by Matt :I don't think the ISPs should play content cops, but come on, I find it hard to believe $16.6 million is an arm and a leg for France Telecom, who has a market cap of $57 BILLION. And any increased costs because of this will just be passed on to customers anyway.
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Its a Secret
Whatever
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join:2008-02-23
U B Funny
1 edit | reply to insomniac84
Re: ISPs profiting?
Huh? Would that be a 'For', or 'Against'? |
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Fireblade
join:2008-08-27
St Catharines, ON | El Oh El France!
Good thing I don't live in France, nor ever plan to. This is going to hurt them in the long run. |
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jadebangle
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join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
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Re: Crappy situation for sure...
said by R0CKY :This is not a good situation for ISPs no matter how you look at it! Not sure about the profiting comment as the increase in consumption that would occur in most cases would have been absorbed in the rates due to competition, so this particular effort would only compound the problem for the industry. good situation huh? wuh? no! its bad! |
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albundyhere
join:2000-10-26
New York, NY
| Dont copy that floppy!
hahahah, this is too funny. All talk and no action. Did they think it was going to be free? I highly doubt AT&T will break a new contract for iphone subscribers, as they will lose much more that way. its also a good thing to consider the rising unemployment rate in le france. |
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