neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA | caps....
anything under 100GB is BS... 250GB is the sweet spot, and comcast knew this, why can't everyone else see this also... now WISP's need a lower cap obviously because of the technology behind it... 10GB would be the sweet spot there |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Ouch
Doing some quick performance tests with actual files yesterday and I easily could have creamed a month's worth of Frontier's potential caps.
I was using the 1GB test file from Optimum Online's FTP site and was downloading the entire file in less than 3 minutes. I downloaded the file about 3 or 4 times and uploaded it nearly the same number of times at about 7 minutes for the upload.
I could literally bust the 5GB cap in less than 15 minutes just messing around doing nothing of note. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
2 edits | 250 GB caps seem "Fair"
Based on right where we are now.
I think in another 5 years, 250GB would be far, far too restrictive. |
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Boomerang86
Got FUD?
Premium
join:2002-10-18
VampireState
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·VOIPo
·Time Warner VOIP
| They have us by the cajones
Most BB customers in Frontier DSL territory (myself included) have only one competitive carrier, or none at all (here, it's Time Warner Cable). No FiOS overbuilding in Frontier service areas means we suffer.
Good move, Frontier... keep driving away business with your ridiculous pricing, outdated and abysmally slow DSL speeds, and (coming soon) draconian download cap.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to KrK
Re: 250 GB caps seem "Fair"
said by KrK  :Based on right where we are now. I think in another 5 years, 250GB would be far, far too restrictive. That's a problem to be delt with in 5 years then. |
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Trimline
Premium
join:2004-10-24
Orlando, FL
·Callcentric
 ·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| Oversold, over saturated
Something else is amiss here.
Sounds to me like they have oversold their market footprint and can't keep up with demand - 5GB cap? Moving customers to 3MG from 6MG. Oversold, over saturated and trying to devise a way to charge more. Let's play tiers. In the end, they'll get less - customers will move on to another vendor.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Oh noes, our T3 is sinking. Quick, cap the hatches. |
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Jeremy
@comcast.net
 from:
scelli
| Seriously?
What moron was sitting at the table and came up with 5GB? I do that in a day. Way to price gouge your customer base (the ones that, you know, let you stay in business) and putting up that hilarious statement on their website is like a slap in the face.
I hope they crumble in this wave of financial hardship. A company like this failing is the only upside of the crap going on. Sad for the workers though. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | bailout $
Frontier needs to get some of the federal bailout money for broadband to deliver 10GB caps and 4 mbit service. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Caps should be proportional to Speed
If they want to have caps (something I do not agree with since they should provide what you are paying for and being offered) it should be based on the speed tier you are being sold. If Tier A has twice the Speed as Tier B, it should also have AT LEAST twice the cap since that gives you the same FULL SPEED download time. If they feel that 5GB is "fair" at their lowest tier (I think it is WAY too low for anything past dial-up) then the higher tiers should have LARGER caps no smaller than the ratio of the tier speeds (It is OK to give better than proportional cap to higher tiers so that the user gets something more than just speed for the extra money). |
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Kfedka
Premium
join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA | reply to neufuse
Re: caps....
The sweet spot is unlimited not 250gb. 250gb in 2005 would have been maybe, but not today. |
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Thanatos
@comcast.net
| Complete utter ripoff...whoever has this ISP should drop it
You are equally well off with dial up than with this ISP.
I just downloaded the Halo Wars 1.5GB demo in a few minutes. This cap is ridiculous. You can only basically browse webpages and e-mail. If you download a video, watch a movie, play an online game or anything you will easily exceed this cap. In a family home this thing is gone in 5mins. I do about 100GB average a month with zero piracy. Just some gaming, demos, and NetFlix in a single user connection. |
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xQuestx
join:2001-05-15
Bar Harbor, ME
clubs: | reply to RARPSL
Re: Caps should be proportional to Speed
5gb's is a joke this day an age, netflix on the 360 I bet would eat that up fast. |
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fatmanskinny
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Wandering
·Comcast Digital Vo..
·Comcast
| reply to RARPSL
Verizon Wireless gives you a 5GB cap on their wireless internet plan. Go figure with Frontears - Leaving their customers crying for better service.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
·magicjack.com
 ·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to RARPSL
But the people who whine about whiners will say that their usage hasn't gone up as their speeds have. I call BS, but they insist...
I'm currently on a 512/??? connection over wireless right now. It's really hard to get above about 20GB per month on it due to lousy connection quality. The cap is 25GB, though they apparently don't enforce it too much.
back in Colorado on cable, I routinely use 80GB+ per month, with spikes up to maybe 120-150GB. If I used online backup, I'd probably be pushing 300GB per month. If there was no cap on a 22/5 plan, I'd probably push 300-400GB per month.
That said, speed-proportional caps should be the way to go... |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to jmn1207
Re: Ouch
said by jmn1207 :I was using the 1GB test file from Optimum Online's FTP site and was downloading the entire file in less than 3 minutes. Mmmmm FiOS but Verizon is bad. Eye-roll. |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
 ·Dish Network
·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..
2 edits | reply to jmn1207
Heh I creamed that amount of data last night. It only takes a few hours of a Source game, as well as some slight internet radio and some foruming, as well as managing a game server to push me past 5GB. That, plus I have a lot of devices. Last month both of my DSL lines pushed a combined total of 320GB. This included YouTube HD, GameTrailers HD, game patches (big ones), game purchases (Steam), Windows Patches, Internet Radio, apps and YouTube on the iPod Touch, some data for a LAN party I hosted, web browsing, files for a game server (which were downloaded and then uploaded to the server, totaled 1GB download, 1GB upload), and this is just my usage alone. Others in my family pushed my usage up. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to Kfedka
Re: caps....
You're not going to get "unlimited".. that was a lesson learned WAY back in the 90's that unlimited didn't pay.
250 is just fine, for these days. My only issue is that the so called ceiling is a "limit".. and limits are not acceptable. When the so called "limit" is hit, they need to either throttle speeds down to a much lower level, OR charge for overage.
Caps and tiers are nothing new to the internet... just residential services is all. If you give someone or a large group of people 'unlimited' anything, there will always be some that abuse it. ANYONE with an ounce of brains knows that you can't lasso in those that do abuse something while not treating everyone else the same way... ask any class action lawyer that. |
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wvcaver
Premium
join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH | reply to Thanatos
Re: Complete utter ripoff...whoever has this ISP should drop it
Thank god Embarq did not sell to this lousy company !
I cringe every time I hear "Frontier" !!! |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
·Dish Network
·Verizon Online DSL
·FrontierNet Intern..
| reply to Trimline
Re: Oversold, over saturated
Frontier offers me 3Mbps/384kbps which is what I've had ever since I was hooked up (one of the first to get hooked up too). Since the holidays, as of two weeks ago Frontier had ran out of bandwidth in our area. Thankfully, I was able to find out that they were in fact bringing in more bandwidth, and they did as I'm on an entirely new route now. The old route is still up and running as well as I'm not seeing my pings go up and speeds drop anymore 
So really, it seems as though Frontier wants people to enjoy the service and use it as unlimited, but yet it also seems like they can't make up their mind. In my case, they've been getting hook ups in my area basically every day despite cable internet being around, which is why we ran out of bandwidth in the first place.
So yeah, last move Frontier should ever consider is capping people. Especially with them having fiber optic cabling fueling their COs, there's no reason they should be thinking about caps. |
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