pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD |  Thank You!
Good luck... you will need it!
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funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
| The irony is amazing.
Brett Glass, SuperWISP  , wants to force ESPN360 not to interfere with the relationship between user and ISP.
However, he is totally against any Net Neutrality regulation that would prevent ISPs from interfering with the relationships between users and their own chosen destinations on the net.
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bugabuga
join:2004-06-10
Austin, TX
| Just like CNN used to do with mobile
A while ago CNN Mobile was doing something similar. If you tried to access their wap version, it'd say "Your carrier has not signed up for this feature, please call support" if the IP address was not recognized as one of their "partners".
Of course that restriction was later removed.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to funchords
Re: The irony is amazing.
said by funchords :Brett Glass, SuperWISP , wants to force ESPN360 not to interfere with the relationship between user and ISP. However, he is totally against any Net Neutrality regulation that would prevent ISPs from interfering with the relationships between users and their own chosen destinations on the net. Ha ha, now that *IS* funny Robb. |
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spewak
R.I.P Dadkins
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join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA | Espn is free to try,
and equally as well, is free to FAIL! 
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY | reply to bugabuga
Re: Just like CNN used to do with mobile
Here is to hoping it doesn't survive long!
That said, It's ESPN's content and servers. They should be allowed to find what market they can. |
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pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs: | ESPN
quote:
ESPN's business model here assumes that the content ESPN is offering is so compelling that it will force users to change carriers.
It's not. |
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superdog
I Need A Drink
Premium,MVM
join:2001-07-13
Lebanon, PA
| reply to funchords
Re: The irony is amazing.
said by funchords :Brett Glass, SuperWISP , wants to force ESPN360 not to interfere with the relationship between user and ISP. However, he is totally against any Net Neutrality regulation that would prevent ISPs from interfering with the relationships between users and their own chosen destinations on the net. I think you may be reading into his statement a little to far?. Your chosen destination is not the issue. The type of traffic your usage generates and the ability of the ISP to use shaping techniques is his main concern. Every ISP will always do some type of network management, as we have seen in the past by the tactics employed by Comcast.
I think his main concern is that the FCC will stop them from using any type of shaping/throttling at all. If this happens, a lot of smaller carriers will be forced out of business, especially WISP's. If that happens?, a lot of users will loose their broadband connection, as most WISP's, (myself included) serve mostly rural areas that would have no other option if we were to close our doors.
I personally shape traffic, but do not discern what type of traffic it is. In other words, I could care less whether or not it is P2P, gaming etc. If you are a network hog or heavy user, your packets will go through, albeit at a slower rate.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | reply to spewak
Re: Espn is free to try,
doubt it look who owns espn  , looks like comcast is onboard so far , I can get to the site. |
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HoboJ
join:2008-03-27
Trenton, ON
·voip.ms
 ·Cogeco Cable
| Silly Content Providers
What all those content providers should do is band together and offer a subscription service to those who want it. I'd totally dig it.
None of this turning ISP's into TV providers.  |
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AVonGauss
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join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Confused...
ISPs really pay money for this? Seriously? |
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vpoko
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join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
| ESPN is to sports...
...what MTV is to music.
I know this has very little to do with the discussion, but ESPN's sports content is bottom-of-the-barrel. It's the tabloid of sports. They're not looking for the die-hard sports fan, who knows better, they're looking for the casual fan, which is why this arrangement makes sense for them. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to AVonGauss
Re: Confused...
said by AVonGauss :ISPs really pay money for this? Seriously? They don't.
You do, in the form of higher subscription fees. If this takes off, just wait until every other website that you don't care about insists on your ISP paying up.
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dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29 | reply to vpoko
Re: ESPN is to sports...
MTV plays music? When did they go back to that. |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA | Never. And there's not much real sports on ESPN either. Actually, I think if they switched content for 24 hours, nobody would even notice. |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs:
·AT&T Midwest
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·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Matt
Re: The irony is amazing.
Whats realy funny is this:
I get that message, but according to ESPN360.com my ISP Insight Communications, permits me to have access, but the ISP portion is realy just TWC RR, rebranded as insight's (insight.rr.com) so im assuming RR, or TWC doesnt have a deal with them? |
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MichaelWacey
OwlSaver
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join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| This actually makes sense
So far, everyone is accustomed to getting everything for free on the web - news, sports, stock quotes, etc. But, this is really being subsidized by other channels such as newspapers and cable TV. As these are dying off, the content providers will need to make money from somewhere. I for one do not want to subscribe to a whole lot of sites with a whole lot of passwords and monthly charges. I would prefer if my ISP provided a complete set of services included in my ISP bill. This is no different that the way I pay for cable. The services could include: News, Sports, Computer Backup, etc.
Ultimately, there is going to have to be some sort of revenue model other than advertising for this content. If not, the quality will go down or the content will disappear.
My two cents. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to funchords
Re: The irony is amazing.
said by funchords :Brett Glass, SuperWISP , wants to force ESPN360 not to interfere with the relationship between user and ISP. However, he is totally against any Net Neutrality regulation that would prevent ISPs from interfering with the relationships between users and their own chosen destinations on the net. Let me say it so you don't have to: it's called a greeedy PoS character with no integrity whatsoever. 
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | It's easy: just let ESPN rot in the hole they're digging...
...and never order this service, period.
It's recession and people will just live fine without ordering a greedy MF corporations' crooked service anyway.
See you in hell, PoS ESPN. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to MichaelWacey
Re: This actually makes sense
If not, the quality will go down or the content will disappear. Kind of like how people on Earth will stop making music if the folks at Sony/BMG don't get their cut, right? |
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