jc100
join:2002-04-10
1 edit | And
Bloggers should be paid for talking about an ISP. Customers should be paid. Customer is such an outdated word. How about quality assurance beta testers> ISPS no longer need customers but people to check their service for consistency. Therefore, all people signed up with an ISP should be paid for their continual commitment in browsing, emailing, and utilizing the service. Better yet, ISPS should just bankroll the internet. Since ISPS don't make the content they link to, it should be their job to PAY FOR EVERYONE's web hosting bill.
.... People are just getting inherently more ignorant as time passes. If you didn't get my post, it was sarcasm above to highlight the stupidity that is taken place. |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
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Anyone interested in making money from created content needs to be paid and have a contract in place before the "art" makes its way to the internet. If the creation has any value, someone will pay for it. Otherwise, find something else to do to put food on the table. This is not the first time that technology made certain jobs obsolete, and it won't be the last. The art and literature fields are not immune to this phenomenon any more than the wagon wheel maker. |
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | is this for real?
i mean, look at the link, IT'S AN INTERNET PETITION. i sure hope this isn't the only source, cause pretty much anyone can create an internet petition. also, does anyone take an internet petition seriously?? |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| I don't know whether or not it's "real" but they aren't the first group to suggest that it's not enough for the consumer to pay for the connection.
Look at broadcast TV. It's not enough that the local channels broadcast their signal free of charge through the air. If the satellite and cable TV folks rebroadcast this content, the broadcaster wants a cut.
Look at the economic stimulus plan. I understand the paper industry is lobbying for money because they consider themselves a "green" industry (renewable).
At every turn, everyone has their hand out hoping the government will print them some money. Why wouldn't writers try to get someone else to put food on the table?
Rush Limbaugh is a fruit cake but several years ago he said something that made sense to me. It went something like.... If you need something, you believe you are entitled to it and you cannot afford it, go ask your neighbor to get/do it for you. If this doesn't seem right, then you should figure out a way to get/do it for yourself because regardless of how you hide your request, your neighbor will eventually pay for it. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
 ·PenTeleData
 ·Future Nine Corpor..
·VOIPo
·Vonage
| said by rradina  :Look at broadcast TV. It's not enough that the local channels broadcast their signal free of charge through the air. If the satellite and cable TV folks rebroadcast this content, the broadcaster wants a cut. That's not a new thing. Giving the stations the rights to charge money for retransmission is in the FCC rules.
The fact that the stations are available freely over the air is irrelevant. It's their content, and if they want to charge they should be able to. If you want to get the signals for free you are absolutely free to put up an antenna (as I have done). Your condo association or HOA can't stop you either. The FCC prohibits them from banning any reasonable TV antennas. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| First they came...
On the Internet the RIAA wanted to charge for "losses" due to music piracy,
and I spoke up because I wasn't a music pirate.
Then the MPAA wanted to charge for "losses" due to movie piracy,
and I spoke up because I wasn't a movie pirate.
Then the newspapers wanted to charge for their "news",
and I spoke up because I didn't read the newspapers anyways.
Then the Canadian Writer's Guild wanted to charge for Canadian content,
and I spoke up because I don't even know what Canadian content is, let alone I don't read it.
Then my ISP wanted to pass all these charges on to me - and I left my ISP for one that realized I wasn't responsible for propping up all these faltering/failing business models that haven't evolved with technologies.
Apologies to Pastor Martin Niemöller. Do I need to license your work in order to make a derivative? |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Unfortunately, the way things are heading, at some point the same people that sell you internet services will also be the owners of the content. At the very least, the two will be partnered together in such a way that there will be a significantly lopsided interest on their part when compared to the consumers. We simply will not have an option to leave one ISP for another that does not also employ a similar strategy. |
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Kilroy
Premium,MVM
join:2002-11-21
Ann Arbor, MI
 ·WOW Internet and C..
| So, all I have to do is...
Slap some content on the web and collect my paycheck from the world's ISPs? I love the idea as I'm currently out of work, but let's be real.
said by jmn1207 :
If the creation has any value, someone will pay for it.
You hit the nail on the head. Produce something worth buying at a reasonable price and people will buy it. If you can't produce, find a real job.
said by rradina :
At every turn, everyone has their hand out hoping the government will print them some money. Why wouldn't writers try to get someone else to put food on the table?
I'd settle for a few digital bits in the right place in my bank account. I'd spend some to stimulate the economy and save some so that the bank could lend more. Isn't that a great plan, please only a billion.
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When will the people realize that with DRM they aren't purchasing anything? |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | South Park?
What are they going to do otherwise? Strike? |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
1 edit | said by bogey780 :What are they going to do otherwise? Strike? They tried this in Hollywood Land and it didn't work very well. The problem was re-runs. 
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
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voiptop
join:2009-02-06
1 edit | reply to cornelius785
New content?
Who will decide that content is really new ant not reprinted and not rewritten? Very tricky topic this many loopholes. Can't imagine in real life. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  reply to cornelius785
Re: is this for real?
In Canada it could be a similar demand to what their broadcast TV networks must do. By law they have to make sure a certain % of shows has to be locally made Canadian content. So, of course, the TV networks there have to pay to create it because local producers aren't making content on their own hook that the networks want to pay for. This sounds like a plea from writers to get the same deal on the internet that their broadcast TV brethren are getting - a gov't subsidized payoff.
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs: | Who Cares
The Canadian writers can live in the same fantasyland the Australians do and the rest of the world will go on happily without them. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to jc100
Re: And
Everyone always wants someone else to pay for their failed business model... especially if they can lobby for it to be legal.
Businesses that are private / share holder owned should be allowed to fail - we could have saved a trillion or so by not bailing out these banks that are still sitting on their hands. Auto industry is still a 'loan' - so I'll leave that one off for now
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lrtc
join:2004-06-05
Toronto | I see
We have a Canadian writer's guild? I guess it's true you do learn something new everyday. |
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popbop
join:2008-03-17
Orlando, FL
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Re: Who Cares
The fantasy is that writing is a hallowed, mystical art that requires the utmost education and preparation to master. Their arrogance has created a sense of entitlement that has the world saying, "adapt or die"!
The truth is that just about any competent high school graduate with something worthwhile to say or report is as capable any rag master guild's so-called professionals.
Writing is about communicating. Billions of people can communicate wonderfully through writing without submitting to the bigoted ire of the "professionals" and their hawkish editors. That's why the web and blogoshpere is decimating these bastions of media and their antiquated guards.
What we we have here another Don Quixote tilting at windmills.
The new media kiddie is about information-now, information-hot, information-relevant... information-FREE! -- free in thought, access, and of charge.
Now, in the immortal words of one of their own demigods...
“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.”
Adapt or die you silly Canucks, just like the rest of us. |
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popbop
join:2008-03-17
Orlando, FL | Sorry, forgot to credit that quote to Sir Charles Darwin |
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | reply to lrtc
Re: I see
Who do you think writes the copy on all those packages of backbacon? |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to rradina
Re: is this for real?
said by rradina :If this doesn't seem right, then you should figure out a way to get/do it for yourself because regardless of how you hide your request, your neighbor will eventually pay for it. I hate to say it... but its the truth.
Why pay for it yourself, if you can
a) Have someone else directly pay for it.
b) Have a whole group pay for it (taxes/welfare/MediCal)
The main part is that you have to make sure that it benefits YOU. The problem with a lot of these 'benefits' are that they generally take from the middle class, and benefit the poor.
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JohnQPublic
Premium
join:2002-03-22
Xanadu | Feared?
"My guild is appearing before the CRTC on February 17th, urging them to start regulating the internet in Canada, specifically feared towards video content."
Feared? Or Geared? |
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