Search:  

 
 
   All ForumsHot TopicsGallery






how-to block ads


 
Forums » House Passes Bill Delaying DTV Transition
view: topics flat text 
Post a:

Comments on news posted 2009-02-04 16:59:12: The argument over whether to delay the digital TV transition from February 17 to June 12 stumbled last week, when the idea failed to get the required two-thirds majority vote in the House. ..

page: 1 · 2

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast


1 edit

The Idiots Win Again

Who do these morons who haven't upgraded have lobbying on their behalf?

Oh and here's the vote breakdown: »clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp···umber=52
--
Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:
·Cox HSI
·Suddenlink
·Cingular Wireless
·AT&T Southeast
·Charter Pipeline


1 edit

Re: The Idiots Win Again

said by pnh102 See Profile :

Who do these morons who haven't upgraded have lobbying on their behalf?
Because the money that could have been spent on digital converter boxes was spent on lobbyists lobbying for them to not have to spend money on digital converter boxes.
--
"I have measured out my life with coffee spoons..." - T.S Eliot
Check Out the Tech Bench »johndball.blaize.net/index.php/tech-bench/
Ma blog: »www.johndball.com

Mac Bridger
Beat It Again Bill
Premium
join:2001-01-11
Smithton, PA
clubs:
·Cricket Broadband

Re: The Idiots Win Again

A nice waste of money spent on a year's worth of advertising. This will only cause further confusion. I imagine many of the people who are not prepared will assume that since their TV didn't go dark on the cut off date that they're ready. Leave it to the government to turn a bad situation worse.
--
Fight Cancer! Join DSLR's Team Discovery

SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17

Re: The Idiots Win Again

And leave it to the private sector to go so far as to kill you.

baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI

1 edit

na

(deleted by poster

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Re: Very Significant

said by baineschile See Profile :

But this article, to me, is very important. Its the first step of a streamlined video/internet/wireless, which, we all know eventually will be just one entity.
Which will never happen because the DTV transition will be perpetually delayed.

On June 12 another extension will be passed, once again to assist the moronic fools who still refuse to buy new TVs or get converter boxes.
--
Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Very Significant

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by baineschile See Profile :

But this article, to me, is very important. Its the first step of a streamlined video/internet/wireless, which, we all know eventually will be just one entity.
Which will never happen because the DTV transition will be perpetually delayed.

On June 12 another extension will be passed, once again to assist the moronic fools who still refuse to buy new TVs or get converter boxes.
You won't get another delay. The only reason you got a compromoise in the Senate was because they promised no more delays. Those against the delay won't compromise again.

Also MOST of the coutnry is AGAINST his delay. these idiots in Congress are about to find out the hard way. If they try to get another delay in May/June there will be some serious shit hitting the fan. Besides how can they defend another delay? If the whole reason for the first delay was to get people ready and that didn't work then the whole arugment for another delay in order to get people ready will be seen as false.

these politicans are fucked if anohter 9-11 or Katrina happens between Feb 18 and June 11th and people die because emergency responders couldn't communicate because they weren't able to use the frequencies ther were promised because of this delay.

SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17

Re: Very Significant

Yeah right! Like anyone really cares. Maybe the people spouting off in this forum give a shit, but the rest of the country doesn't even understand it.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

said by BF69 See Profile :

You won't get another delay. The only reason you got a compromoise in the Senate was because they promised no more delays. Those against the delay won't compromise again.
I agree with what else you said but Congress can pretty much make any law it wants to regarding the DTV transition. Even if Congress said "this is the last time" there's nothing stopping it from passing another delay.
--
Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Very Significant

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

You won't get another delay. The only reason you got a compromoise in the Senate was because they promised no more delays. Those against the delay won't compromise again.
I agree with what else you said but Congress can pretty much make any law it wants to regarding the DTV transition. Even if Congress said "this is the last time" there's nothing stopping it from passing another delay.
Yes it can because the republicans are against this. That's why it failed in the Senate the first time. It wasn't until compromises came that the republicans agreed to this delay. One of the compromises is that there won't be another delay. You can't pass a law unless the House and Senate both vote on it. Even though the Dems control the Senate the republicans can filibuster any new DTV bill until after June 12th. Then it's too late. The only way you can stop a filibuster is getting a 60% vote to do so. The dems don't have 60 votes. So no there won't be any more delays.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Re: Very Significant

I highly doubt the DTV transition is going to be subject to a filibuster considering what the GOP has chosen to not filibuster in the past 2 weeks. If anything, once the inevitable request to delay the new June transition date comes up, it will pass.

I mean this is the Congress after all, can we really count on it to do the right thing when it really matters? Of course not.
--
Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Very Significant

said by pnh102 See Profile :

I highly doubt the DTV transition is going to be subject to a filibuster considering what the GOP has chosen to not filibuster in the past 2 weeks. If anything, once the inevitable request to delay the new June transition date comes up, it will pass.

I mean this is the Congress after all, can we really count on it to do the right thing when it really matters? Of course not.
If there wasn't a compromise this time this delay never would ahve passed. the republican will NOT allow a new delay in June. Also consdiering the fact that most station will have turned off their analog signals by then anyways what good would a delay do? I have read countles articles today from differnent areas where stations are still going to shut off Feb 17th. Just based on the articles I've read it's about 80% that still plan on doing it and half of the others are considering it. Overall I'd be shocked if the number of stations that are digital only by May 1st( 6 weeks before the June 12th deadline ) is less than 75%.

Jim Gurd
Premium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI
·Comcast

said by pnh102 See Profile :

Even if Congress said "this is the last time" there's nothing stopping it from passing another delay.
That's why the stations need to just pull the trigger on 2/17 and be done with it. Believe me if I was a general manager for one of the broadcasters I would pull the plug on analog at 12:00am on the 17th.
--
Calling an illegal alien an undocumented worker is like calling a crack dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Re: Very Significant

said by Jim Gurd See Profile :

That's why the stations need to just pull the trigger on 2/17 and be done with it. Believe me if I was a general manager for one of the broadcasters I would pull the plug on analog at 12:00am on the 17th.
Would the stations still be legally allowed to do this? The stations, as well as other media outlets, went through so much hassle to announce the 02/17 changeover date that I think they should as well.
--
Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!
soccerguy

join:2004-06-28
Seattle, WA

Re: Very Significant

Yes. Some have already converted. The June date is simply a deadline to covert to DTV, not a date at which the conversion happens.
shortyd999

join:2008-10-21
Birmingham, AL
Some stations are going to switch on 02/17 anyway....So those dummies that arent ready will up the creek without a paddle

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02

Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
This article wont have a ton of comments about it
On the contrary, it's interesting to note that every article we post on the DTV transition seems to get a huge volume of user comments. Seems to interest a broad spectrum of people...

Jahntassa
What, I can have feathers
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Conway, SC

Re: Very Significant

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

This article wont have a ton of comments about it
On the contrary, it's interesting to note that every article we post on the DTV transition seems to get a huge volume of user comments. Seems to interest a broad spectrum of people...
Mostly because this has been a long time coming. If congress didn't want the digital switchover it shouldn't have been brought up 10 years ago.

Nevermind the people who haven't gotten converter boxes or TVs, what about the millions who ARE prepared for the switch, and have to suffer through another few months of lower-power digital signals and analog broadcasts? Obviously they aren't important.

SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
Yeah, but the interest seems to be usually tons of rants and raves from both sides of the issue. Not a whole lot of constructive discussion or intellectual debate. Just people venting.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Very Significant

said by SRFireside See Profile :

Yeah, but the interest seems to be usually tons of rants and raves from both sides of the issue. Not a whole lot of constructive discussion or intellectual debate. Just people venting.
both sides? it's 95% AGAINST this.

durf

Re: Very Significant

EXACTLY. This isn't really up for debate. Pretty much everyone is ticked at Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid right now.
vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

Re: Very Significant

Anyone who voted for the likes of Nancy Pelosi is getting exactly what they deserve.

Jahntassa
What, I can have feathers
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Conway, SC

said by SRFireside See Profile :

Yeah, but the interest seems to be usually tons of rants and raves from both sides of the issue. Not a whole lot of constructive discussion or intellectual debate. Just people venting.
Here's constructive discussion:

Explain how the delay will help.

Once that's done, then we can discuss.
B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28

Re: Very Significant

said by Jahntassa See Profile :

said by SRFireside See Profile :

Yeah, but the interest seems to be usually tons of rants and raves from both sides of the issue. Not a whole lot of constructive discussion or intellectual debate. Just people venting.
Here's constructive discussion:

Explain how the delay will help.

Once that's done, then we can discuss.
That's the perfect question.

I would guess the delay is intended to help by allowing time for the coupon program to come up with enough funds to finish, and/or for the existing coupons to expire.

However, I would rather they simply fix the problem, which is the coupon program. They can do that now regardless of any postponed cutover date.

-- B
--
In a realm outside causality and function
ChuckIL9

join:2005-11-07
Peoria, IL
·magicjack.com
·STANAPHONE
·Aretta Communicati..
·Nuvio

Here's how the delay helps: My 79 year old mother lives on fringe of two metropolitan coverage areas, TV reception from both areas is OK to poor, but still watchable and acceptable for her. Digital reception in this area is completely unwatchable with frequent drop outs. Pushing this thing back to June means I don't have to get out on her snow covered roof and install a new antenna when the wind chill is below zero.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Re: Very Significant

said by ChuckIL9 See Profile :

Pushing this thing back to June means I don't have to get out on her snow covered roof and install a new antenna when the wind chill is below zero.
So why didn't you do it back in the summer when it was warm?
--
Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!
tbone2006

join:2006-07-22
Abilene, TX
What is your mom going to do when most of the stations in her area still switch in February? Stations can (and most will because of money) still switch February.

h7

@charter.com
Heh yeah well it seems "everyone" watches tv and/or uses their computer/phone/watch/iTrinket as one. :P

h#7

baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
This comment was supposed to be under the ATT Uverse Femtocell article....Apologies
mlundin

join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS
sarcasm recognition FAIL.

sabersaw
Premium
join:2001-08-21
Dayton, OH

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

This article wont have a ton of comments about it
On the contrary, it's interesting to note that every article we post on the DTV transition seems to get a huge volume of user comments. Seems to interest a broad spectrum of people...
Because the real issues are too confusing for the masses. I don't see how people are emotionally wrapped up in this debate. What are these people going to get once the transition is complete? Why would anyone really care?

Personally though I hope it never happens. But only because I want to have access to information during an emergency.
jweek

join:1999-08-27
Reno, NV
·Charter Pipeline
·Pacific Bell - SBC

Re: Very Significant

said by sabersaw See Profile :

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

This article wont have a ton of comments about it
On the contrary, it's interesting to note that every article we post on the DTV transition seems to get a huge volume of user comments. Seems to interest a broad spectrum of people...
Because the real issues are too confusing for the masses. I don't see how people are emotionally wrapped up in this debate. What are these people going to get once the transition is complete? Why would anyone really care?

Personally though I hope it never happens. But only because I want to have access to information during an emergency.
what does "have access to information during and emergency" have to do with DTV signals?

Homebrew1994
Betzwood Basement Brewery

join:2001-11-15
King Of Prussia, PA

Re: Very Significant

said by jweek See Profile :

what does "have access to information during and emergency" have to do with DTV signals?
Because the analog frequencies freed up by the DTV transition are promised to first responders, whos present frequencies are overloaded.
hurfy
Premium
join:2002-08-06
Spokane, WA

"What are these people going to get once the transition is complete? Why would anyone really care?"

Hopefully and end to the PSA every 30 minutes and a scrolling text announcement inbetween. And getting rid of the idiot explaining to hook up the antenna to the plug marked 'antenna'...

Jim Gurd
Premium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI
·Comcast

Re: The Idiots Win Again

Did the provision which allows stations to convert early if they want to survive in the final bill? If so then I think just about all of them will go live on 2/17.
--
Calling an illegal alien an undocumented worker is like calling a crack dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

See 18 replies to this post

CtrlAltDel
WORSE. THAN. CARTER.
Arbitrary Text
join:2001-12-30
Backyard
·1and1
·Verizon Online DSL
·Comcast

The cavemen from the GEICO commercial and Osama Bin Laden are the only ones who aren't ready for DTV. The democrats idiots win again.

--
OBAMA IS THE NEW "RAILSPLITTER"

OBAMA, CHANGE WE CAN'T COUNT ON

knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·AT&T DSL Service

said by pnh102 See Profile :

Who do these morons who haven't upgraded have lobbying on their behalf?

Oh and here's the vote breakdown: »clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp···umber=52
Because you are using the wrong word "moron" which is just a stab in the dark.

* An estimated 6.5 million homes -- including many elderly, poor and disabled Americans -- would lose TV service after February 17 without the delay
* Areas are still dealing with coverage, antenna and reception issues that went too long unaddressed
* TV is some people's only way to get information, in the middle of winter the last ice storm is still being felt in states like Kentucky, where they use those little mini-tv's and generators for people to get information would not work in a week, many of which will still be without power and probably aren't too worried about getting that converter box to lug around just yet

More time? I guess, but at least it will give even more time to prepare, maybe fix the coupon program. I still have relatives that either don't understand what the DTV means or bought a TV recently thinking it's DTV ready and it's not. Since all of those "analog" TVs are on sale cheap, a lot places forget to put that sticker on it that says "this won't work in a few months", so that confuses the non-technical population even more.

There are more reasons for the vote than "everyone in the world except me is a moron, why did they delay it"
--
Fight NebuAD and the like:
Click Here to pollute their data

See 9 replies to this post
soccerguy

join:2004-06-28
Seattle, WA

What irritates me about this is that you can still go buy a converter box. Was in Best Buy last weekend and they had a six-foot high stack of them.

A simpler solution would have been to issue new coupons that allow a purchaser to redeem for a rebate after purchase.

I truly think some of the same people will still be complaining about not being ready in June. The only thing that will provoke them to do anything about it is when their tv goes static.

Sorry for the rant, but the public has been given notice for at least two years. Procrastinators should not be rewarded.

Stewy85
Premium
join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs:

In the words of Gob...

COME ON!
Nafets

join:2003-08-20

Four more months of...

"Are you ready for DTV?!?!"


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: Four more months of...

Just a waste of taxpayer money.
I was hoping that channels would cut back over (channels in LA will be shuffled on DTV) on the 19th
--
Canada = Hollywood North
fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20

I just wonder how much money this is going to cost cable, satellite, and phone companies, not to mention the associations, etc, that have to re-do all of their commercials.. and, how much more confusion this is going to create to the public. This is going to be a mess. Now they're going to have to say to the public that the cut over was extended.. and then explain the new date, etc... as if people weren't confused enough!

ugh

R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo

join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA
·Comcast


2 edits

More of the

"it's not my fault" mentality that is destroying this country. And the government is more than happy to come in and perpetuate it by saying "we know it's not your fault and we're here to help you".

Guess what's going to happen 4 months from now? A ton of money will have been spent and only a fraction of the people who were unprepared now will be prepared then.

Government efficiency at its best.

elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
·Mediacom

Re: More of the

said by R4M0N See Profile :

"it's not my fault" mentality that is destroying this country. And the government is more than happy to come in and perpetuate it by saying "we know it's not your fault and we're here to help you".

Guess what's going to happen 4 months from now? A ton of money will have been spent and only a fraction of the people who were unprepared now will be prepared then.

Government efficiency at its best.
We are the Government and we're here to help...

OH WAIT

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Stupid stupid stupid

If my represetnative or Senators voted for this I will NOT vote for them when they are up for re-election PERIOD. It is so logical as to why this is stupid.

if stations can turn off analog on Feb 17th "if they are ready" which most are, then WTF is the point? Some lazy douchebag will think he's got until June 12th then bitch when on Feb 18th he doesn't have any TV.

if the majority of stations still have to wait until June 12th. Guess what, lazy fucktards that aren't ready now are not going not be ready on June 12th. If you give a procrastinator a reason to procrastinate he will.

You will never have 100% readiness to expect so is stupid. Ok so "only" 99% are ready. Is that so bad? This is the equivalent to punishing the kids that came to school on time because of the one tardy kid.
AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

Re: Stupid stupid stupid

said by BF69 See Profile :

if stations can turn off analog on Feb 17th "if they are ready" which most are, then WTF is the point? Some lazy douchebag will think he's got until June 12th then bitch when on Feb 18th he doesn't have any TV.
If this is true then the reason for the delay is a false. It is not about the customers. The delay must be there to protect the stations.

Do the people that bought the spectrum get a credit because of the delay? If so, we know why Verizon wanted the delay. They were not ready and did not want to start paying yet.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Stupid stupid stupid

said by AstroBoy See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

if stations can turn off analog on Feb 17th "if they are ready" which most are, then WTF is the point? Some lazy douchebag will think he's got until June 12th then bitch when on Feb 18th he doesn't have any TV.
If this is true then the reason for the delay is a false. It is not about the customers. The delay must be there to protect the stations.

Do the people that bought the spectrum get a credit because of the delay? If so, we know why Verizon wanted the delay. They were not ready and did not want to start paying yet.
verizon and at&t got a 116 day extentison on thier spectrum. They weren't pusshing for the delay and if they didn't get the extention you can bet they would have been in court fighting the delay. the extention was the only way to get them on board and it's only fair.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

How to solve the "un-prepared" issue

turn off the fucking analog. I bet within a week you'll have near 100% readiness.

Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ

1 edit

It doesn't matter

A lot of stations are going to switch on 02/17 anyway.

See 7 replies to this post

anon123

@embarqhsd.net


from:
TKJunkMail See Profile

Stupid

They should have just gone through with the switch on Feb 17. Most of the people who aren't ready now won't switch until the analog broadcast is shut off anyway. It costs stations like $20,000 a month in electricity alone to keep the analog broadcast running.

I was also looking forward to the improved DTV reception that would happen when stations move their digital broadcasts to VHF. They can't do this until analog is shut off.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Stupid

said by anon123 :

I was also looking forward to the improved DTV reception that would happen when stations move their digital broadcasts to VHF. They can't do this until analog is shut off.
Only a very few were moving back to VHF.
afiggatt

join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA

Re: Stupid

said by BF69 See Profile :

Only a very few were moving back to VHF.
Some 280 stations flash cutting to their upper VHF analog channel is not "very few". The post-transition breakdown for the physical RF broadcast channels is 41 stations on low VHF 2-6, 448 on VHF 7-13, 1334 on UHF 14-51. There will be stations on upper VHF in most major markets.

Some stations have already flash cut back to their analog channel, some are likely to go ahead and do so on February 17, the rest then somewhere from Feb. 18 to June 12.

Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
·Packet8

said by anon123 :

They should have just gone through with the switch on Feb 17. Most of the people who aren't ready now won't switch until the analog broadcast is shut off anyway. It costs stations like $20,000 a month in electricity alone to keep the analog broadcast running.

I was also looking forward to the improved DTV reception that would happen when stations move their digital broadcasts to VHF. They can't do this until analog is shut off.
more like $200,000
--
It's NOT Ni-kon It's NE-KON!





SirChaos

join:2002-01-15
Marysville, WA

My Democratic representative voted no!

One thing I am personally proud that my Congressmen here in Washington State (a democrat) was one of the 10 who voted "No" on the delay. His name is Rick Larsen.

I did write him to vote no. Did you write yours?

I did what I could and at least my congressman worked for me and our area.

See 9 replies to this post
Sammer

join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA

Never underestimate the stupidity of Congress!

Before wasting a couple of trillion dollars they decided this was important?

h7

@charter.com

Re: Never blunderestimate

said by Sammer See Profile :

Before wasting a couple of trillion dollars they decided this was important?
Well you know, giving away billions/trillions of taxpayer dinero to big banks and verizon that is easy; but giving away 350 million coupons for $40 off a digital converter box, woh that is too hard. :P

h#7

captnhook

join:2001-02-20
NY

Re: Never blunderestimate

said by h7 :

said by Sammer See Profile :

Before wasting a couple of trillion dollars they decided this was important?
Well you know, giving away billions/trillions of taxpayer dinero to big banks and verizon that is easy; but giving away 350 million coupons for $40 off a digital converter box, woh that is too hard. :P
True
LOL

Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC

Good for Them

A delay was needed, so I'm glad it passed by such a large margin.

See 6 replies to this post
bgraham

join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
·Verizon FIOS

Now Im Mad

Damn, I bought a digital TV on Saturday. I wonder if Cosco will take it back and I can wait till June 1 to buy another one.
Honestly this vote is a waste of taxpayer money. People had long enough to get digital and if they have not done it by now they never will.
afiggatt

join:2007-07-12
Sterling, VA

Re: Now Im Mad

You do know that around 1600 stations are putting out a full power digital broadcast? Hook the TV up to the antenna and do a digital channel scan. You may have to re-scan on February 18, then again on June 12 as some stations move their digital channels.
jay_rm

join:2002-04-12
Netville

shakes head slowly

..dumb asses
Endgame
Your member at work
Premium
join:2005-07-07
USA
·Pacific Bell - SBC


1 edit

They always find a way to pass bills

Like I said in the last article about delaying the transition, they won't give up until it gets passed just like every other bill. The President always gets his way! The house will pass anything these days and if something doesn't pass it always gets passed in round 2 or 3. The new stimulus package will pass next time too just you watch.
--
Humans are corrupt by nature, honesty is completely artificial ~Endgame Will somebody please save us from all the monies!
jay_rm

join:2002-04-12
Netville

Early shut down ?

SO...*WAS* the provision to allow 'ready' markets to transition on 2/17 included in this bill ????
--
3500/512 5.7 GHz Motorola Canopy Wireless; FoxValley.net
'It looks just like a Telefunken U47 !'

TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast


2 edits

Re: Early shut down ?

said by jay_rm See Profile :

SO...*WAS* the provision to allow 'ready' markets to transition on 2/17 included in this bill ????
YES. But the FCC still has to OK all cutovers. Republicans on the rules committee wanted to allow early cutovers happen without FCC having the power to block them. But that amendment was shot down 7 to 2. So expect Copps and Adelstein to block nearly all early cutovers.
--
My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Early shut down ?

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by jay_rm See Profile :

SO...*WAS* the provision to allow 'ready' markets to transition on 2/17 included in this bill ????
YES. But the FCC still has to OK all cutovers. Republicans on the rules committee wanted to allow early cutovers happen without FCC having the power to block them. But that amendment was shot down 7 to 2. So expect Copps and Adelstein to block nearly all early cutovers.
I do not think that is correct as far as I know all a station has to do is give viewers a 30 day notice before shuitting off analog and make sure their signal won't cause interference.
scooper

join:2000-07-11
Youngsville, NC

Actually - RIGHT NOW - the stations can do it. The bill is still not a law (the last I heard at this moment). After it's signed - The commisioners have to make rules. And then it's up to the Media Bureau to carry them out.

13 days - think they can do it and still get a comment period in ?

heathcpe

join:2002-03-19
Brandon, MS

Wow, more confusion for the confussed.

Wow, more confusion for the confused. There's too much paper out there now saying Feb 17th which conflicts with what the media will be saying. Feb 17th will come and millions of dip sticks will be scratching their empty skulls wondering if their 30 year old TV is digital.

ObamaChange

@nebankers.org

from:
TKJunkMail See Profile

Tv not a right

Typical democrats...wanting more Government (coupons in this case). You got your change all right!

Aaron 1

@umbc.edu


from:
TKJunkMail See Profile

Incredibly pathetic

What morons are still not ready for the DTV transition? After years and years of announcements, will they suddenly be more ready come June? I will happily vote against any moron that voted for this further delay.

Our politicians treat citizens like little babies. And it seems like many of our citizens fall to the occassion.
vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

Re: Incredibly pathetic

Does that include voting against Obama?

Aaron 1

@umbc.edu

Re: Incredibly pathetic

Actually....yes! I'm really sick of politicians who pander to the lowest common denominator and treat people like idiots, all in the name of "compassion".

If 5 years isn't enough time for people to upgrade their TVs.... maybe they just don't want to upgrade. Why should the rest of the nation have to pay for that?

Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ

Ridiculous

Moronic is a better word.
markie09

join:2005-05-01

stupid

its the stupid people like this that arent prepared. this has been advertised for 2 years. i dont understand why we shouldnt give them more time. if they dont have time to get up and go to town and get a almost free converter box then they must not have time to watch television.
MADx

join:2005-05-25
Richmond, IN
·Comcast

Re: stupid

It's the economy stupid, people can't afford additional cost for digital television. Especially when a family and the elderly are struggling to make ends met. Try living on social security, SSI, or retirement pay, unemployment benefits,food stamps and also counting the high cost of gas and utilities plus rent or mortgages. Then you have to sacrifice another 30 to 56 bucks for digital cable. Taking away analog television is to hasty of an ideal at the moment.
Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Re: stupid

MADx

You do of course realize that they can just get a digital converter and they do not need to get cable?

Aaron 1

@spcsdns.net
Golly, and we would never want to suggest the unthinkable -- that for some period of time people might choose to go [GASP] without TV!!!!
Forums » House Passes Bill Delaying DTV Transitionpage: 1 · 2


Wednesday, 25-Nov 15:49:34 Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Hosting by www.nac.net - DSL,Hosting & Co-lo | feedback | contact
over 10 years online! © 1999-2009 dslreports.com.
page compression OFF