Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC |  Is anyone surpised?
Is anyone surprised that the Senate is still in the pockets of big business? Their mantra is more free money, less control, and more tax breaks ... all to corporations. That's worked wonderfully so far, hasn't it? |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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Stepford, CA
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| said by Matt  :Is anyone surprised that the Senate is still in the pockets of big business? Why would that change. The Dimbulbs are every bit as on the take as the Gee Oh Pee. The only difference between the two is that the Gee Oh Pee makes no attempt to disguise its contempt for anyone not making under $500k/yr. The Dimbulbs, OTOH, like to pretend that they represent the people.
On the NN provision in the stimulus pkg, I have every confidence that the clause will be removed behind closed doors without further discussion. I'd bet a month's pay on that. And if it somehow manages to stay, it will be so watered down it will be useless. Any takers of this bet?
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | I don't get it.
The title say net neutrality is in, but the last line of the article say it might not be.. Well anyway it looks like, at this point anyway, the net neutrality is in, GOOD! |
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screavic
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Paron, AR | I hope this works
I hope this works, I would like to have something that is mostly on. I miss having broadband, the sacrifice I had to make in order to help save money from living in the city. |
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grumpy3b
join:2001-12-11
Lompoc, CA | it they want public funding then...
the damn language needs to STAY as well as the requirements to wire everyone everywhere in the US. |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | Write your reps!!!
Write them and tell them that you want net neutrality to stay.
Remember, you voted to elect these people, and without you they wouldn't be elected. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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Re: Is anyone surpised?
said by Matt :Is anyone surprised that the Senate is still in the pockets of big business? Their mantra is more free money, less control, and more tax breaks ... all to corporations. That's worked wonderfully so far, hasn't it? It'd be nice if what you said was true. The USA has one of the world's highest corporate tax rates. This alone has contributed to many jobs being moved outside of the country. The companies that remain pass the costs of those taxes directly to the consumer in the form of higher prices.
Every tax hike on a business ends up screwing the people in one way or another, either through higher prices or lost jobs.
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screavic
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Paron, AR | reply to Eat Me
Re: Write your reps!!!
I didn't vote for the lobbyist haha |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | I'm a taxpayer.
I want Net Neutrality. I want 100Mbps/20Mbps. I want it to be free. Better still, I want the telco to pay me for accepting their service. There! |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | reply to pnh102
Re: Is anyone surpised?
Maybe so, but American entrepreneurs also have a much better chance at success and financial freedom in the United States than any other country in the world. Kinda balances out don't you think? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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| said by SRFireside :Maybe so, but American entrepreneurs also have a much better chance at success and financial freedom in the United States than any other country in the world. Kinda balances out don't you think? If that's still true why do jobs continue to be offshored?
Much of the rest of the world has caught up to where we are technologically. As a result, we live in a reality in which it is trivially easy to ship any job overseas. Our tax policies should not help make this any easier.
If you want a quick recovery, set the corporate tax rate to 0 and radically lower personal income taxes.
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jl747
join:2005-03-24
Mount Prospect, IL | reply to rdmiller
Re: I'm a taxpayer.
This is not a stimulus bill. It is a spending bill.
Full of pork. |
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aaronwt
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Woodbridge, VA
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said by rdmiller :I want Net Neutrality. I want 100Mbps/20Mbps. I want it to be free. Better still, I want the telco to pay me for accepting their service. There! I would love to upgrade my 50mbs/20mbs service to 100mbs/20mbs. Or even better 100mbs/40mbs. |
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ahedge
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Shepherd, TX
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Re: Is anyone surpised?
said by pnh102 :said by Matt :Is anyone surprised that the Senate is still in the pockets of big business? Their mantra is more free money, less control, and more tax breaks ... all to corporations. That's worked wonderfully so far, hasn't it? It'd be nice if what you said was true. The USA has one of the world's highest corporate tax rates. I think it's not true if we compare to other industrialized nations. Do you have a reference to support that statement? |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
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Jobs are being offshored because yes, it is cheaper for the company to do so. Most, if not all, of the companies that are offshoring are corporations who tend to focus more on stockholder value than anything else. Of course they go to the cheap labor to reduce costs and get those fatter profits. That doesn't mean the companies can't be prosperous keeping their production in the states. Look at the ledgers of these companies and see what their earnings and profits were before going out of the country. They were doing just fine. |
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ahedge
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Re: I'm a taxpayer.
said by jl747 :This is not a stimulus bill. It is a spending bill. Full of pork. Such as? Can you point at the pork in that bill? |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to pnh102
Re: Is anyone surpised?
Labor, not taxes are by FAR business' largest expense and overseas they can get away with near zero regulation and virtual slave labor payrates. |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to jl747
Re: I'm a taxpayer.
ALL gov't spending is pork...ALL of it. Whether you think it is solely depends on what constituency group you're in. |
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Scotty6595
join:2005-04-03
Frisco, TX
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said by ahedge :said by jl747 :This is not a stimulus bill. It is a spending bill. Full of pork. Such as? Can you point at the pork in that bill? Are you serious? Have you been living under a rock the last 3 days? Point at the pork in that bill?
Just a few for giggles...
Page 32: $1.5 billion (with a “B”) for a “carbon-capturing contest”
P. 45: “$25,000,000 is for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes, and $20,000,000 is for trail maintenance and restoration.” ATV owners, rejoice.
$54 billion will go to federal programs that the Office of Management and Budget or the Government Accountability Office have already criticized as “ineffective” or unable to pass basic financial audits.
Page 41: The Coast Guard wants more than $572 million for “Acquisition, Construction, & Improvements” They claim these funds will create 1,235 new jobs. Crunch the numbers and this brings the cost of “creating” each job to a staggering $460,000+
Take your partisan blinders off for one second and see for yourself... |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| purely across party lines?
Is that a typo? don't you mean purely along party lines? Cause there are 178 republicans in the house and 177 of them voted against it. I don't mean to break out the calculus but I mean 1/178 is pretty damn close to zero so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that the republicans really didn't vote for it.
I know there is this push and all to make it sound like the world is united as one under the reign of his most gracious lord Obama but, across party lines is stretching it a tad much dontcha think?
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