Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC | 3, 2, 1 .....
And here come the Anti-Muni trolls!
Regardless, good luck with this project and I sincerely hope for its success! |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Didnt cable companies...
Have some sort of an agreement when they spent $$ wiring a town that the town municipal wouldnt run its own service?
I am all for last-mile fiber, but government controlled is not the answer. |
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JasonOD
@comcast.net | reply to Matt
Re: 3, 2, 1 .....
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business? |
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
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Re: Didnt cable companies...
said by baineschile  :Have some sort of an agreement when they spent $$ wiring a town that the town municipal wouldnt run its own service? It depends on the franchise agreement.
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N10Cities
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join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
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That pic linked in the summary only shows the fiber wound around a holder...
I wish my local phone company (Pinnacle Communications) would offer TV on our fiber system. We have telephone & Internet, but no TV. They are a very small independent phone company and probably are not in too big a hurry to go head-2-head with Cox.
Powell is making baby steps with their Internet Speeds like Pinnacle did. Pinnacle's highest tier was 5/2 for the first year or two, but now are offering excellent speeds - starting at 10/1 and up to 50/5. |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL | reply to JasonOD
Re: 3, 2, 1 .....
Then should a town not launch a public transit system because it might take business from taxicabs? |
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dcurrey
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One thing I know for sure is about 10 years ago our city tried to run its own cable company. More or less FTTN type deal don't know why they just didn't do FTTH. But no matter cost the city Millions to build and maintain. Had to sell it at a major loss to Cinci Bell. It about bankrupted the city.
Only good that came from it was it lowered Time Warners rates to match the cities. Since it was sold off to Cincinnati Bell they have been forced to be competitive.
The prices they are charging are roughly what we pay. Internet speeds are a hell off a lot faster with them however.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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|  Rush off to Powell ???
Weather:
»www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?wypowe
If you don't want to check - It is usually very cold for 6 months of the year.
Per capita income (1999) Powell $14,518
Per capita income (1999) US $21,239
Somehow I don't think FTTH is going to result in some great economic resurgence in Wyoming.
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to JasonOD
Re: 3, 2, 1 .....
Absolutely, especially when they're nothing but sue happy roadblocks to progress. |
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dcplaya
@ge.com | reply to dcurrey
Where do you live in Cincinnati? I have never heard anything like that being tried around the Cincinnati area? Also, if they sold a TV infrastructure to CB then why does CB offer DirectTV? |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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What I think these need to be doing is facilitating competition without bringing physical competition. The governmenet/private funded fiber should be build but no access provided directly by any government agency. Instead they should allow any company who wishes to pay a fee/per X customers for maintenance & bandwidth but allow any company who wants to do so. That will provide the customers a choice of any X provider they wish to go with and without one or two large companies dominating a region with their own infrastructure and preventing other companies from competing in a given region.
Why cant they do that?
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business?
If the local company isn't providing an adequate service and refuses to, absolutely. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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·North State Commun..
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said by jimbo2150 :What I think these need to be doing is facilitating competition without bringing physical competition. The governmenet/private funded fiber should be build but no access provided directly by any government agency. Instead they should allow any company who wishes to pay a fee/per X customers for maintenance & bandwidth but allow any company who wants to do so. That will provide the customers a choice of any X provider they wish to go with and without one or two large companies dominating a region with their own infrastructure and preventing other companies from competing in a given region. Why cant they do that? You just described UTOPIA.
The problem with this model, is the Comcasts, AT&Ts, and Time Warners of the world don't have exclusive access to your eyes, ears, and wallet, so they don't like this idea. |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
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One way to do this would be to build a network and connect every residence and business at no charge. That connection would get you access to local government Web sites (offering extensive e-services), video access to local public access channels, and telephone access to 911 and local government offices. That's it. For a small fee, you could get access to anything on the local fiber network, and, if you wanted TV, Internet, and phone service, you could contract with any provider who has connected to the network. |
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whosmatt
join:2005-02-28
Raleigh, NC | reply to JasonOD
Why would this put a local company out of business? |
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Hazy Arc
join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Rush off to Powell ???
Who needs to go outside when you have FTTH?  |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
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Yeah.. But what harm is there to go ahead and upgrade the networks now instead of waiting till everyone is basically feeling like they are on dialup before upgrading? I say this seriously because well, i'm having to do this atm myself... No reliable options landline wise for broadband. And i'm seriously missing out on things... Sat is a joke.. Wireless is improving, but still unreliable for low ping applications..
So.. I say go for it! Make use of the money.. Its better than what 25+million TN tax dollars are going for right now.. And thats to build a bunker for our governors mansion... Such a waste |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL | reply to TKJunkMail
But how does cost of living compare to the national average? You can't judge income in an area until you know how much it costs to live there. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
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Re: 3, 2, 1 .....
said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business?
comcast, ATT and time-warner are local companies? Just poor, struggling, small footprint local companies? |
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
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said by JasonOD :
Ok Matt, I'll bite. Is it really a good ting to have municipalities put local companies out of business? Okay, I'll bite. First, from the article:
The user notes that the local cable competitor is Bresnan Communications. Doing a bit of digging on Bresnan's site yields:
Today, Bresnan Communications operates in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming and Utah. and
Corporate Headquarters
Bresnan Communications
One Manhattanville Road
Purchase, NY 10577-2596
914.641.3300
Bresnan isn't a local company, they are headquartered in New York,. The community is better off running its own network to keep the money local.
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