Boricua65
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico | Limited in scope?
I see this as a test bed to see how successfully FiOS will be against AT&T's U-Verse.
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jchambers28
join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR |  glad to see that
fios seems to be better than uverse any day. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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 ·Comcast
4 edits |  What is difference: new plant & overbuilding
Last year Verizon began laying new plant (not overbuilding) in select AT&T territories If Verizon is laying new plant in AT&T U-Verse area, isn't that overbuilding? A distinction was made. What is the difference?
This story says Verizon is overbuilding:
»www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx···upport=1
Verizon has begun an overbuild of AT&T in the Dallas suburbs, extending its FiOS service northward from Plano into Frisco and Allen, areas where both AT&T (U-verse) and Time Warner Cable offer video services.
Based on a reading of the maps AT&T and Verizon have filed with the state PUC, the current overbuild appears to cover roughly 60,000 homes. Frisco counts 30,000 occupied homes and Allen 25,000 occupied homes. Same here: »www.telecompetitor.com/node/671--
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
1 edit | Build out in non-Verizon territory?
Well that gives me a slight glimmer of hope that they'll come here, especially since they have a statewide franchise agreement. But I am not holding my breath. |
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baineschile
2600
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding
I believe he means that they are laying fiber in an area they did not have copper (pots and dsl) before. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to jchambers28
Re: glad to see that
Uverse products are not even fully offered in many markets. At&t still doesn't offer voip in many markets. |
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meowBB
join:2002-01-21
Hayward, CA | FIOS
Please bring FIOS to the San Francisco bay area!!! |
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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1 edit | Kermit is an idiot
"This is a wonderful microcosm of insanity," says industry analyst Kermit Ross, principal of Millennium Marketing. "Verizon is losing POTS lines by the millions, and it seems to me they ought to be doing more to stop the flow of customers fleeing their own territory, before they start looking for customers elsewhere." What a tool. How does Kermit the Genius propose that Verizon "stop the flow" of people ditching land lines? Super-glue? Blackmail? Ridiculous statement from an obviously clueless talking head.
Hey Kermie, think it might be possible that land lines are going to shrink no matter what the bells do, and maybe expanding a future-ready technology like FIOS is a bold idea? Did you work in politics for the past 20 years or something? Because that's about the only place I can imagine such idiotic comments even making it into print.
Oh, and while I'm ranting -- Kermit, in addition to changing your given name, do you think it might be time to update the old company moniker there? Millenium Marketing? Dude, it's been 10 years since everyone had a millenium-something in their name or motto, it's pretty tired and makes you look like a hack (a hack who doesn't know dick about marketing, I might add).
EDIT: I guess Kermit really does know something about marketing -- apparently he runs a telemarketing company that sells magazine subscriptions... »whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/9132481105 |
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ashworth
join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding
An overbuild usually refers to the incumbent carrier "overbuilding" THEIR lines or some company like RCN that does an overbuild on existing structure and/or plant. The 1st article you referred to is that VZ is "overbuilding" in Texas where U-Verse is offered which isn't really an overbuild... just competition. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
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Re: Kermit is an idiot
I thought his idea was a push too, I doubt these little incursions will cost them much more than they planned to pay in the long run anyway...and yeah, how exactly do you stop the death of landlines -- if not by repositioning yourself as a next-generation broadband company... |
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w4ncr
join:2000-10-27 | PLEASE BRING FIOS BY VERIZON TO WILMINGTON, N.C. WE LOVE VERIZON!!!!!! |
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TheOnerf
join:2003-05-30
Arlington, TX | arlington tx
bring it in to arlington!, c'mon!. |
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX | Guess while everyone is saying where they want it.....
cans east san antonio has high speed internets pl0x?
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
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Re: What is difference: new plant & overbuilding
RCN is considered an overbuilder because they over built a network. They overbuilt an area where Comcast or TWC or who ever else was the main provider previously.
Overbuilding and building out a new plant in an previously unserved area by one company would mean the same thing. |
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B52GUNR
KM 7D love and D3 Nirvana
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-06
Vallejo, CA
clubs:   | reply to meowBB
Re: FIOS
Yes, PLEASE! |
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Anon Name
@verizon.net | reply to TheOnerf
Re: arlington tx
It's already in Arlington!
Arlington, VA
Arlington, MA
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH | reply to Eat Me
Re: Build out in non-Verizon territory?
I thought the Baby Bells had a gentleman's agreement not to poach each others territory.
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Rob2647
join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI | reply to en102
Re: glad to see that
I don't see what the hype for voip is, most people don't need landlines, why voip. Just a waste of money IMHO. |
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Rob2647
join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI | If I could get FiOS
I would, for 2 good reasons, first there is caps on FiOS, yet. And speeds much higher than 6 and 10megs. But I'm in the middle of AT&T country. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: glad to see that
Lots of people need landlines. Some people don't live on top of a cell tower and would still like to be able to carry on a clear conversation. VOIP makes having this "luxury" more affordable than the venerable POTS landline. Femtocells aren't widespread yet, but when they come they will help mitigate this issue. Until then, cheap VOIP is perfect for people like me. And for what it's worth, the cell tower I'm connected to is about 3,000 feet from my house, yet the quality is still marginal. Boy this cellular technology works great!
Lots of people also like the unlimited calling/unlimited long distance, full-featured aspect of VOIP. Because of VOIP I pay about half of what I used to for a traditional landline. I get way more features and never have to think about the cost.
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