TKJunkMail
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|  If Verizon can provide a shareable DVR, why not Comcast ?
The Verizon Fios home media DVRs are Motorola boxes - the same that Comcast uses. Why can't Comcast FINALLY roll out this feature to their customers. They can't use the excuse that software isn't available.
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FTTC
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Mount Rainier, MD | 1.6
1.6 million out of 8.2 million wtf. about 7 million people are missing the best service on earth. retards I tell ya's |
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X Cablevision
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX | reply to FTTC
Agreed. Either Verizon is not being aggressive enough, or there are actually that many people locked into contract with other carriers. |
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baineschile
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Re: If Verizon can provide a shareable DVR, why not Comcast ?
Comcast (and all cable companies for that matter) are pushing for a Network DVR, where they put in zetabytes of storage at each node, and when you record, it acually records offsite. This would make the DVR feature available to all STB, not just the HD-DVRs they sell.
It is a realtivly cheap endeavour as well, as just adding memory is not too costly. The problem? Thank the gold ol' MPAA and a few Network TV distributors.. They dont want their "content to be able to be pirated at an offsite location".
If you search some articles on here, I believe Cox or Clearwire are battling with them in court right now. |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| What Channels?
What are the channels?
Arent the channels pretty much the same across providers?
I mean besides the locals, you have your regulars like MTA,VH1,A&E, FoodTV, HBO, Sho, Starz, TMC, Skin-a-max, are they just making those HD or are they new channels? |
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS !
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| said by ITALIAN926  :If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS ! Well the Comcast system here already has the multiple Premium channels. You get like 10 HBO's 8 SHO's etc etc.
So fios isnt special there. I was wondering what the 100 channels were. |
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coolpfeif
join:2004-10-19
Arlington, VA | Do you get 10 HBO channels in HD? That was the comment. I only get 1 HBO HD. |
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JPL
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join:2007-04-04
West Chester, PA
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said by LeftOfSanity :said by ITALIAN926 :If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS ! Well the Comcast system here already has the multiple Premium channels. You get like 10 HBO's 8 SHO's etc etc. So fios isnt special there. I was wondering what the 100 channels were. Here's a good comparison chart:
»www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···=1058081
Note, this only includes national channels. In addition to these, every market has local HD channels, as well as RSNs - right now I think we're up to ~105 HD channels for our market (I actually lost count). |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by JPL :Here's a good comparison chart: » www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···=1058081Note, this only includes national channels. In addition to these, every market has local HD channels, as well as RSNs - right now I think we're up to ~105 HD channels for our market (I actually lost count). Thanks for the link. That shows HD coverage very well.
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N3OGH
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Re: If Verizon can provide a shareable DVR, why not Comcast ?
It's a technology issue.
Comcast's TV signal comes in over coax that's still attached to Comcast's system.
Verizon's TV comes from the ONT at the subscriber's house. The ONT, for lack of a better term, acts as a mini head end. The entire spectrum of that coax is made available for the DVR and digital boxes to talk to each other.
This is what makes time travel possible...
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TKJunkMail
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| Comcast is also part of the MOCA alliance that allows distribution of video between STBs. This is what Verizon uses and what Comcast says they will use. When is the key question.
»www.mocalliance.org/en/aboutus/faq.asp#1
MoCA is an open, standard body promoting networking of multiple streams of high definition video and entertainment using existing coaxial cable already in the home.
MoCA is the standard for home entertainment networks over coax. We call it multiroom DVR. It is applicable for television programming, gaming, content sharing, and PC to TV and back again, transfer of content.
MoCA is led by a board of directors (Promoters) representing some of the most-respected names in broadband entertainment including Broadcom, Cisco, Cox Communications, Comcast, EchoStar, Entropic Communications, Motorola, NXP, Panasonic and Verizon.
MoCA is in full deployment through Verizon's FiOS TV program. Many other cable and telco service providers will be entering into trials and field tests in 2008. Verizon's ONT isn't necessary to do multi-room DVR.
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Eat Me
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Re: 1.6
said by NOCMan :Agreed. Either Verizon is not being aggressive enough, or there are actually that many people locked into contract with other carriers. Or some people are happy with their current provider and don't wish to change. Believe it or not, some people get stuck in the same routine for years and get all they need, so they don't see the need to upgrade to the best and the latest. |
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Eat Me
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Re: What Channels?
said by ITALIAN926 :If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS ! I haven't subbed to premium channels in years. They're just not worth the money to me anymore, IMO.
I would rather have the cable company or FiOS deliver more national non-premium HD channels rather than premiums. |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
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1 edit | reply to LeftOfSanity
said by LeftOfSanity :What are the channels? Here is what I had with Comcast:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
AMC HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD
Here is what I now have with FiOS:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD
MPT HD
WGN America HD
HD Net
ESPN U HD
ESPN News HD
Big Ten Network HD
NHL Network HD
Outdoor Channel HD
Tennis Channel HD
World Fishing Network HD
MAV TV HD
CNBC HD
Fox Business Network HD
The Weather Channel HD
Smithsonian Channel HD
Biography Channel HD
HD Theater
Lifetime HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
QVC HD
HSN HD
Planet Green HD
Wealth TV HD
Travel Channel HD
Bravo HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
MGM HD
HD Net Movies
Toon Disney HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
Encore HD
Showtime West HD
Showtime Showcase HD
Showtime Showcase West HD
Showtime 2 HD
Showtime 2 West HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Extreame West HD
The Movie Channel HD
The Movie Channel West HD
The Movie Channel Xtra HD
The Movie Channel Xtra West HD
HBO West HD
HBO 2 HD
HBO 2 West HD
HBO Signature HD
HBO Signature West HD
HBO Family HD
HBO Family West HD
HBO Comedy HD
HBO Comedy West HD
HBO Zone HD
HBO Zone West HD
Cinemax West HD
More Max HD
More Max West HD
Action Max HD
Action Max West HD
Thriller Max HD
Thriller Max West HD
WMAX HD
At Max HD
OuterMax HD
With FiOS, I am only missing the AMC HD channel in High Def, but I do have this channel is SD. A cable company owns this channel and is being stubborn about letting FiOS have it.
There are also about 6 or more new HD channels in my guide that are supposedly coming soon. (Comedy TV HD, Pets TV HD, Recipe TV HD, NBA HD, and a few others)
I have 50/20 internet speeds ($89.95) and the whole package is less than what I was paying for Comcast services.
Edit: Channels were placed in bold text that were on both services. |
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JPL
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West Chester, PA
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| reply to Eat Me
said by Eat Me :said by ITALIAN926 :If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS ! I haven't subbed to premium channels in years. They're just not worth the money to me anymore, IMO. I would rather have the cable company or FiOS deliver more national non-premium HD channels rather than premiums. I was like that too, but FiOS actually has great prices on their movie pack. I'm still grandfathered into my original cost of $13/month, but even the current price (I think it's gone up $1) is a great price for what you get. That gets you access to all the Starz, Showtime, TMC, Encore, Flix, IFC, and Sundance channels (some 47 SD channels in all), as well as all the corresponding HD channels and VOD. HBO and Cinemax are priced higher, and are separate from the movie pack, but they're very much in line with other providers. |
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N3OGH
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Philly burbs
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Re: If Verizon can provide a shareable DVR, why not Comcast ?
I didn't say an OTN was necessary, I don't think you understand the issue well.
The coax used inside a Comcast subscriber's home is directly connected to Comcast's network. The coax in a Verizon subscriber's home is not. The idea that the ONT is there, is MOOT.
Comcast will have to implement some way of isoloating the set top boxes in the subscriber's house from the rest of their network in order to make this work for them. Otherwise, too much bandwidth will be eaten up by DVR boxes talking to each other.
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Eat Me
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Re: What Channels?
said by JPL :said by Eat Me :said by ITALIAN926 :If you like 1 HD movie channel from HBO, SHO, STARZ ECT, by all means , keep your cable company . If you want like 6 HD channels from each, move to FiOS ! I haven't subbed to premium channels in years. They're just not worth the money to me anymore, IMO. I would rather have the cable company or FiOS deliver more national non-premium HD channels rather than premiums. I was like that too, but FiOS actually has great prices on their movie pack. I'm still grandfathered into my original cost of $13/month, but even the current price (I think it's gone up $1) is a great price for what you get. That gets you access to all the Starz, Showtime, TMC, Encore, Flix, IFC, and Sundance channels (some 47 SD channels in all), as well as all the corresponding HD channels and VOD. HBO and Cinemax are priced higher, and are separate from the movie pack, but they're very much in line with other providers. Their prices are $15.99/month for HBO. My cable provider gets it for $14/month. DirecTV has it for the same price (and has a lot of the same channels as FiOS).
Skinamax et al are $1 more on FiOS than they are on cable.
While it's nice they can provide the additional channels, it seems to be more expensive. Plus $16/month in this economy is a nice savings.
I guess it may be different for people who spend a lot of time in front of the TV, but for me not worth it. |
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aaronwt
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Woodbridge, VA
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| reply to jmn1207
Yes. FIOS easily beats what Comcast has in our area. And the picture quality is better on FIOS too.
said by jmn1207 :said by LeftOfSanity :What are the channels? Here is what I had with Comcast:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HDAMC HD WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HD
Here is what I now have with FiOS:
WJLA-HD (ABC)
WRC-HD (NBC)
WUSA-HD (CBS)
WTTG-HD (FOX)
WDCW-HD (CW)
WDCA-HD
Science Channel HD
WETA-HD (PBS)
F/X HD
Fox News HD
A&E HD
National Geographic HD
HBO HD
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
TBS HD
Cinemax HD
CNN HD
USA HD
Sci-Fi HD
History Channel HD
Showtime HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Animal Planet HD
Speed Channel HD
Disney Channel HD
ABC Family HD
NFL HD
Starz HD
TNT HD
Universal HD
Comcast SportsNet HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Versus/Golf Channel HD
Palladia HDMPT HD WGN America HD HD Net ESPN U HD ESPN News HD Big Ten Network HD NHL Network HD Outdoor Channel HD Tennis Channel HD World Fishing Network HD MAV TV HD CNBC HD Fox Business Network HD The Weather Channel HD Smithsonian Channel HD Biography Channel HD HD Theater Lifetime HD Lifetime Movie Network HD QVC HD HSN HD Planet Green HD Wealth TV HD Travel Channel HD Bravo HD Hallmark Movie Channel HD MGM HD HD Net Movies Toon Disney HD Starz Edge HD Starz Kids & Family HD Starz Comedy HD Encore HD Showtime West HD Showtime Showcase HD Showtime Showcase West HD Showtime 2 HD Showtime 2 West HD Showtime Extreme HD Showtime Extreame West HD The Movie Channel HD The Movie Channel West HD The Movie Channel Xtra HD The Movie Channel Xtra West HD HBO West HD HBO 2 HD HBO 2 West HD HBO Signature HD HBO Signature West HD HBO Family HD HBO Family West HD HBO Comedy HD HBO Comedy West HD HBO Zone HD HBO Zone West HD Cinemax West HD More Max HD More Max West HD Action Max HD Action Max West HD Thriller Max HD Thriller Max West HD WMAX HD At Max HD OuterMax HD
With FiOS, I am only missing the AMC HD channel in High Def, but I do have this channel is SD. A cable company owns this channel and is being stubborn about letting FiOS have it. There are also about 6 or more new HD channels in my guide that are supposedly coming soon. (Comedy TV HD, Pets TV HD, Recipe TV HD, NBA HD, and a few others) I have 50/20 internet speeds ($89.95) and the whole package is less than what I was paying for Comcast services. Edit: Channels were placed in bold text that were on both services. |
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