anonuser6606
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| Sorry, Verizon the Gsm World is way head of you!
Nice try Verizon, the Gsm world is way head of you big time on this meaning that. The Gsm phones can be unlocked as long as the radio frequencies match the networks requirements and you can insert that cellphone companies sim card, and you can call into your cell provider's customer service department and activate your Gsm phones new service. Verizon, you are a joke for not adapting to the Gsm Network Technology instead of using outdated Fred Flintstone, Cdma technology and maybe listen and try this messege and maybe, you will have better luck!!! This is sarcasm and its me talking out my butthole. "Sarcasm Off!" |
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SilverSurfer
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2 edits | The More Things Change...
Business never does a thing to accomodate consumer demand unless there is proof positive they could make mountains of money from it. (Note: diaRIAA doesn't count since they are just the idiot cartel.) Not one mountain, not two, but more like 200,000,000. Case in point: FIOS. It's all about the bottom line and opening up a wireless network falls into that category notwithstanding the "luxury tier" VZ plans to implement for the access, which has yet to be proven. Let the GSM market dictate where the chips will fall. VZ may change its tune, but I doubt it. Dinosaurs of all stripes don't usually adapt, they just perish. |
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TKJunkMail
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2 edits |  Here are a few devices that can be used by consumers
Want to use EVDO access for your home network?
This was certified by Verizon:
»www.bluetreewireless.com/product···sp?id=42
»www.reuters.com/article/rbssTech···20090106
September 23, 2008 – BlueTree’s CDMA (EV-DO Rev. A) 6000 series products are certified for use on the Verizon Wireless network. Another one that can be used in the home:
»www.digi.com/products/cellularga···port.jsp
And another one:
»www.centredaily.com/business/tec···435.html
»www.calamp.com/home/882-evdo.html
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Karl Bode
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4 edits | Re: Here is 1 device certified that can be used by consumers
The BT-6600 is a $600 business modem.
The BT-6621 is an $850 business router.
Your other links are even more expensive enterprise gear. Several of which aren't even commercially available yet. |
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DaveNJ
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Re: Sorry, Verizon the Gsm World is way head of you!
How many devices work on a GSM network , let me see thousands ? |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Here is 1 device certified that can be used by consumers
said by Karl Bode  :The BT-6600 is a $600 business modem. The BT-6621 is an $850 business router. They can be used in the home, right? |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Much business gear can be used in the home. It doesn't make them consumer gear. I guess it does if you're just trying to be obnoxious and make a point without adhering to the rules of logic... |
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niblifar
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It looks like someone can make it rain.
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anonuser6606
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Re: Sorry, Verizon the Gsm World is way head of you!
Exactly the point of Gsm Technology!!! |
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anonuser6606
@rr.com
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»hspa.gsmworld.com/ according to the website it states there on the website the facts of how many devices, are Gsm capable handsets. Its a big difference from chunky Cdma cell phones, and therefore the Gsm technology cell phones count is 1,053 devices are capable of gsm signal technology compaired to Cdma. Which is limited to a hundred at max or so, I am guessing!!! |
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S_engineer
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| Is anyone really suprised?
News stories at the time were geared to which companies were consumer friendly by having a type of "open source" technology open to the public.
My prediction: Verizon will the the first with PR promoting their Green Technologies to help save mother earth.
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patcat88
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Process is open, only a couple $1000 to certify the device. Actually, as far as I know, VZ doesn't require any fees to certify the devices, and the process is all self certify (fill out the paper work with various statistics, sign it, mail it to VZ). The only problem is the AGPS accuracy test requires a trip to VZW's headquarters in NJ for a baseline GPS position.
Now the reason nobody wants to jump at the opportunity is, because VZ doesn't guarantee any rate plans or their features or their price. So you don't want to release a device that will get a sticker shock price increase on its plan, or you can't profit from the monthly fees for the device, or get the device subsidy that the user created by signing a contract with VZ (VZ takes the subsidy).
So thats why nobody is releasing any consumer devices. |
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Eat Me
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Re: Sorry, Verizon the Gsm World is way head of you!
said by anonuser6606 :
Verizon, you are a joke for not adapting to the Gsm Network Technology instead of using outdated Fred Flintstone, Cdma technology and maybe listen and try this messege and maybe, you will have better luck!!! This is sarcasm and its me talking out my butthole. "Sarcasm Off!"
Wow, DSLR is just as I remember it. A bunch of self proclaimed experts spouting off nonsense as usual.
Just for your information, CDMA is a multiplexing method, and is plenty more advanced than TDMA, which GSM is (or was) using. The new GSM standards are based on CDMA. |
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Eat Me
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Re: Here is 1 device certified that can be used by consumers
said by TKJunkMail :said by Karl Bode :The BT-6600 is a $600 business modem. The BT-6621 is an $850 business router. They can be used in the home, right? Honestly, you can do the same thing with an old PC, a $29 Verizon USB modem and pfSense. I use my verizon air card as a backup for my whole network when the power goes out (and so does cable) all the time. |
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Nightshade
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1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
That's like saying a full enterprise rack server can be used at the home.
Can it be used at the home? Sure
Is it expensive? You betcha
Is it practical for use at the home by home users? No
Is it practical for use by business? Sure
Besides, 1 out of 29 products being approved for use by consumers doesn't exactly inspire great odds and confidence for the consumer market. But on the other side of the coin, it is good that Verizon has allowed independent vendors to create products to be used on their network, even though it is mostly for commercial use. A lot of commercial products have a retail basis. It remains to be seen if the vendor who are creating the devices for the commercial industry sees a practical use for their product in the retail market.
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ohreilly
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| Makes me glad that I live in the UK....
4 GSM networks, 5 UMTS/HSDPA networks, using the same frequencies as most of Europe.
It's certainly very nice to change networks in seconds, with a choice of thousands of devices and no operator crippling (and Nokia/SE make it very easy to undo any that happens).
None of this faffing with "opening up" networks. |
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Big Dawg 23
join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
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Re: Sorry, Verizon the Gsm World is way head of you!
What is the point of GSM if they are rated at the bottom for reliability on signal and quality? Yeah it is nice to have a more open choice on handset but with no signal it means nothing. Besides this won't matter when W-CDMA is launched by most carriers here in the US(AT&T and Verizon). |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to Nightshade
Re: Here is 1 device certified that can be used by consumers
This sounds exactly like CableCARD, which is largely a sham to get the FCC off the cableco's backs. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to Karl Bode
I wouldn't wander too far off in that direction, since most advanced "consumer" cell phones are in the $400-$600 range if not subsidized by the carrier.
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NetAdmin
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Re: Here are a few devices that can be used by consumers
Thanks for posting that... I've been looking for a device like that for a future project at work.
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