Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | I want
I want one that does data as well so I can have 3G coverage in my house for my blackberry. |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit | said by Eat Me  :I want one that does data as well so I can have 3G coverage in my house for my blackberry. I believe the femtocell will provide both voice and data services just like a regular cell tower does.
P.S.> does your model of Blackberry have WiFi? If it does, you would be better off using the WiFi router in your home for data access and would get better speeds and would avoid any bandwidth caps AT&T may put on you, if any, thru this new service.
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SterlingJ85
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1 edit | reply to Eat Me
It would have to have data if it transmits an AT&T 3G signal.
AT&T's 3G network is UMTS/HSDPA. Even with just UMTS you have 384 Kbps of data built-in. If it can support HSDPA, it can do several Mbps if your broadband can.
Of course, AT&T could just deny the data portion altogether.. but technically, I don't see why or how they could. |
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banditws6
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| I'd like to try one of these...
AT&T coverage in my house can be a little spotty, so I'd love to try one of these femtocells. $100 doesn't sound like a bad price point.
Forgive my ignorance of the tech, but are AT&T's femtocells of any benefit if you are still using a 2G phone? Or do they only work with 3G phones? I notice only 3G phones were mentioned in the AT&T statement.
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mlong
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1 edit | I like it
I see this as a logical progression of the cell phone. People replaced home phones with cell phones because they're move convenient and offer more for the money. That being said, they still spend most their time at home. I'd bring in a femtocell if the provider offered unlimited voice/data while on my home network. They get to offload traffic from their backhaul and I get unlimited service which should be reliable as the "tower" is in my basement.
I work from home a lot and have a personal Verizon cell phone and a work-issued BlackBerry. I get fairly good service but they could be better. I don't have a home phone and having a femtocell would be nice to improve those monotonous conference calls about conference calls. I wonder what happens when Joe Blow (plumber/six pack/schmoe) gets one and he's trying to talk on the phone while his kids are downloading movies from the internet? I would envision them needing to explain quality of service to people a lot.
Finally, how do the providers feel about this? With the exception of Verizon, I don't think any really have their own cell phone division. How will they feel about their "tubes" being used to carry another company's service?
AT&T, if you're looking for someone to test it out I'd like to throw my name out there for consideration! 
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BigDog
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1 edit | Why not?
I think this should be the standard for all cell providers including Verizon, especially if you could use it in home with no charges or maybe a small monthly charge it would be well worth it(I take that last part back aobut the small monthly charge i pay enough to Verizon). I am a big fan of the Femtocells sign me up STAT!!! |
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iansltx
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| Spring has been doing this for awhile with Airave. Unfortunately 1xRTT only for data last I checked. Slightly expensive, too, considering what you can get on Sprint by way of unlimited calling. But that's just me, a person who has excellent coverage in both his apartment and his family'splace back home...and who wouldn't trust his family's internet connection farther than he could throw it. |
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NOCMan
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Flower Mound, TX | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: I want
Femtocells will offload internet traffic directly to the internet, any traffic that needs to go through AT&T will go to AT&T.
If they employ spit tunnels. |
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mastermind278
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| Similar to UMA
Couldn't ATT just allow the cellphones to connect to UMA via WiFi just like TMobile? I feel that using UMA is easier for the user as not extra equipment is needed. I also think UMA is awesome since I can just connect to any open WiFi where I do not have any cellphone signal and voila I can make crystal clear calls. Also with UMA I get wifi speeds on my blackberry.
So in other words what would be the advantage of a femtocell compared to the existing UMA, besides the bigger phone selection.
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Joe12345678
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Des Plaines, IL | Is 3g data free over this? Will your cap still apply to it's
Is 3g data free over this? Will your cap still apply to it's use? |
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ptrowski
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| said by Joe12345678 :Is 3g data free over this? Will your cap still apply to it's use? My guess would be that the caps still apply.
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I Use Dial
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Re: I like it
said by mlong :I would envision them needing to explain quality of service to people a lot. Finally, how do the providers feel about this? With the exception of Verizon, I don't think any really have their own cell phone division. How will they feel about their "tubes" being used to carry another company's service? It would come with the same QoS issues as VOIP, so this is nothing new.
I think the ISP's like it when internet services are used because it means you're less likely to cancel their service. |
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | reply to Eat Me
Re: I want
If you're at home anyway, why not just use your computer instead of a tiny BlackBerry? |
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Chaldo
join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI | Would try this out
Seams like a cool thing. |
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questonable
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I think this is the natural progression of the landline phone as cellphones become the norm. AT&T has been seeing declining numbers of users for their landline phone service for the last five or so years, and it makes sense that they would use this as a way to get back into people's homes. First start by giving them out for $100 and free service from them, then transition to small monthly payments once they are in enough homes. AT&T will be able to re-obtain the hold on household phone service even while things go mobile. Long term AT&T has found a solution to a problem that has been bugging them for years now.
In the short term, however, it will be a challenge to get customers to adopt these new femtocells, and more importantly to get people to trust them before they start charging. If I were getting one now, I'd definitely be asking whether it would slow down my home internet speeds and if my neighbors would be able to piggyback off of my signal or if it would just be mine(I paid the $100 dollars right?)
This could in the long run lead to the elimination of cell towers completely with the burden of powering the network left to the consumers. It could also allow phone providers to monopolize areas(if say Buffalo, NY got AT&T femtocells in a majority of the city early on, competitors would have
SEVERE barriers to entry in that area).
Bottom line is this technology is a game changer for any company who develops it to the fullest of its potential. |
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Eat Me
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| reply to quatrix
Re: I want
said by quatrix :If you're at home anyway, why not just use your computer instead of a tiny BlackBerry? My blackberry is used for work to page me and I often don't get a signal at home. With the femtocell I will be able to have blackberry coverage in my house. |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| reply to mastermind278
Re: Similar to UMA
Bigger phone selection is the primary advantage, not only for the carrier but also for the customer. Very few phone support UMA, which would negate the main advantage of GSM: namely, the ability to use whatever phone you like on your account. |
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NetFixer
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1 edit | Final nail in coffin for AT&T CallVantage?
Meanwhile, there's an interesting conversation in our VoIP forums about what the rise of the femtocell means for residential VoIP.
Considering that the AT&T CallVantage VoIP service is already on a death watch because AT&T is no longer accepting new orders, I would not be surprised to see this being considered an official replacement for that service when they finally pull the plug.
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