Noah Vail
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Lorton, VA | I smell a foreboding.
Another organized surveillance,
on Americans,
by ISPs for some nefarious entity
whose interests are it's own
is probably not good for America.
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2 edits |  Will DtecNet be any different ?
DtechNet supplies the same services that MediaSentry did. It looks like the RIAA has just switched out for PR reasons & a lower profile and modified legal strategy.
»www.dtecnet.com/EN/Our%20Solouti···acy.aspx
The services offered by DtechNet are the same that MediaSentry offered:
DtechNet Services
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2 edits | from the site:
»www.dtecnet.com/EN/Downloads.aspx
It also allows the user to delete copyrighted music and video files from the “shared folders” of the computer from where they are commonly swapped illegally on the internet.
So these clowns have the ability to delete files from suspecting traders?
That sounds shady.
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said by TKJunkMail  :DtechNet supplies the same services that MediaSentry did. It looks like the RIAA has just switched out for PR reasons & a lower profile and modified legal strategy. The services offered by DtechNet are the same that MediaSentry offered: This isn't a setup, I'd like to know your thinking.
Where would you draw the line on surveillance on Americans? What methods would the government or enterprise employ that would cause you to say "This is too much and needs to stop"?
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Re: I smell a foreboding.
what worries me is the RIAA hired a company that is outside the US, from their angle its a good idea as they now have a hired spy that isnt bound by our laws.
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Re: Will DtecNet be any different ?
Now we must make them as big of a PR disaster as their Predecessor (they will in time) but we need to speed that up |
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Re: I smell a foreboding.
said by Kearnstd :what worries me is the RIAA hired a company that is outside the US, from their angle its a good idea as they now have a hired spy that isnt bound by our laws. Read this story »www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/p···9604.ece and you will see how in the UK & the rest of the EU that spying on computers have much more lax rules on gathering evidence - no warrants needed.
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Re: Will DtecNet be any different ?
said by hopeflicker :from the site: » www.dtecnet.com/EN/Downloads.aspxIt also allows the user to delete copyrighted music and video files from the “shared folders” of the computer from where they are commonly swapped illegally on the internet.So these clowns have the ability to delete files from suspecting traders? That sounds shady. That whole paragraph is questionable:
"Digital File Check helps to remove or block off any of the unwanted “file-sharing” programs commonly used to distribute copyrighted files illegally. It also allows the user to delete copyrighted music and video files from the “shared folders” of the computer from where they are commonly swapped illegally on the internet."
Remove file-sharing programs?
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Re: I smell a foreboding.
said by Kearnstd :what worries me is the RIAA hired a company that is outside the US, from their angle its a good idea as they now have a hired spy that isnt bound by our laws. Ding!
Ding!
Ding!
Given the most recent court ruling, it makes sense that the diaRIAA would go outside the country to employ a company with identical services to MediaSentry. Entities outside of the U.S. are under no obligation to follow U.S. law, nor are they subject to the jurisdiction of our courts. The diaRIAA has learned absolutely nothing from its last court encounter and is so desperate to prop up its failed business model that it will continue to throw money in the direction of pretty much anything except what music consumers want.
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| WTF? That is like saying if I hire a hitman from germany to whack my wife, as a US citizen, I cannot be found culpable for any wrong doing. "The hitman is german! He is not bound by US laws so let him whack away!"
Insanity X infinity?
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major marco
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| said by TheHelpful1 :WTF? That is like saying if I hire a hitman from germany to whack my wife, as a US citizen, I cannot be found culpable for any wrong doing. "The hitman is german! He is not bound by US laws so let him whack away!" Insanity X infinity? LMAO. That is a very distinct possibility...all you'd have to say to escape murder charges was to say you were working for the RIAA and helping to protect copyright. But seriously, clearly you have not been paying very much attention to the shit the RIAA has been getting away with.
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Re: Will DtecNet be any different ?
"Shared Folders" being shared on the internet? Maybe special p2p download folders but not "Shared Documents" "Shared Music". That's only over a network, s.
wait, we're talking about the RIAA here. Not that I have much/anything to worry about. When i share msic, I do it with people I know, over my home network or sneakernet. t this point there's really no excuse to pirate unless you want something that isn't on Lala, AmazonMP3, Wal-Mart, iTunes Plus CDBaby, Napster DRM-Free, Zune Marketplace or eMusic. Or one of the several MP3 (legal) stores I didn't just mention. Especially Lala...10 cents gives you unlimited decent-quality streaming. I've built up quite a collection over there. |
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| I predict...
...a rise in internet traffic on independent ISPs, the ones who haven't signed on with the RIAA. Once people know where the agreements aren't, they'll move all their activities to those ISPs.
That, or VPN companies will get a whole lot more business (not VPN4Life or AnchorFree, the other for-pay guys). Or both.
As long as bits can be encrypted, there's no way to watch a savvy internet user do whatever he/she is doing. If you use heuristics, you'll get your fingers burned. I'd say "good luck RIAA, hope you don't get sued into oblivion for a false positive" but I don't have an ounce of sympathy for those folks. |
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thecapn
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The RIAA is a US registered trade organization. Thus they are legally responsible for any US law violations that their "agents" break. |
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Re: Will DtecNet be any different ?
Sounds like other MAFIAA hired companies' snake-oil, like AudibleMagic and SafeMedia's Closeau (yes that's what that company's anti-piracy solution is called, and it's a lot like the bumbling detective it was named after).
Oh, and I expect blocklists to be updated to include all of DtecNet's IP space.
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| These clowns will never learn. I heard over the radio that cd sales in download format hit 1 billion dollars, yet the cd format continues to plunge. The RIAA is still using a failing tactic to prop up their broken revenue streams. And now they try outsourcing their spying routines?...geez!
I foresee this blowing up in their face, as it should.
Thier website is clearly geared towards European laws. This looks to me like an effort to circumvent US laws in their attempt to make up the losses by shoving teen angst music down everyones throat for years!
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I agree with you.
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It is very depressing. We seem to be moving backward when I thought attitudes about legal drm free material and talks on collective licensing were moving us forward.
I didn't like their legal cases but at least they were functioning through legal channels. Now they seem to be trying to construct evidence gathering and punishment outside of legal channels. Private enforcement of legal matters is a terrible idea and, if they really move on this, I hope the government slaps them down for it. I also hope the government slaps down the communications providers that made deals to be their private enforcers.
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Re: RIAA would still be responsible for US law violations
said by thecapn :
The RIAA is a US registered trade organization. Thus they are legally responsible for any US law violations that their "agents" break.
They have got around that pretty good if you ask me. It all about money and not about laws anymore no matter how you look at it. |
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Re: I smell a foreboding.
yawn. just another group of IP's to add to filters.
not that i would ever pirate anything put out within last 20 years.
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Re: Will DtecNet be any different ?
said by dadkins :said by hopeflicker :from the site: » www.dtecnet.com/EN/Downloads.aspxIt also allows the user to delete copyrighted music and video files from the “shared folders” of the computer from where they are commonly swapped illegally on the internet.So these clowns have the ability to delete files from suspecting traders? That sounds shady. That whole paragraph is questionable: "Digital File Check helps to remove or block off any of the unwanted “file-sharing” programs commonly used to distribute copyrighted files illegally. It also allows the user to delete copyrighted music and video files from the “shared folders” of the computer from where they are commonly swapped illegally on the internet." Remove file-sharing programs? yep! gotta hold onto those old versions of p2p softwares.
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