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Review by ameritech See Profile
UPDATED: 118 days ago
member for 1.1 years, 82 visits, last login: 2 days ago


Winnetka,Cook,IL
$39 per month
about 5 days
"Nice-looking router"
"Too many to list..."
"Sucks. Totally. At least you can no longer get it..."
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    I have had CallVantage for a year, and left for cell-only (GTE Mobile Systems) in 2008. My router was a nice D-Link that had dual-line support. However, there was a issue with the WAN/LAN Pass-Thru that passes traffic on to the computer (Netgear WGR614v7). Never worked quite right before or after.

    EDIT SUN 26 JULY 2009 : No longer available! Yay! It sucked monkey nuts!

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Review by NetFixer See Profile
UPDATED: 193 days ago
member for 5.4 years, 3053 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Murfreesboro,Rutherford,TN
$39 per month
about 23 days
"Dual WAN support, and more likely to be around long term than Vonage,"
"It wasn't around longer than Vonage."
"AT&T: We don't care. We don't have to care!"
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    I recently ported my two Vonage lines to AT&T CallVantage because I could get a $5.00 per line discount by also having an AT&T wireless account. The questionable long term survivability of Vonage also was a factor, but at this time the lower price for the same class of service was the trigger.

    A major (for me) advantage is that the AT&T CallVantage service/ATA is able to utilize the load balancing features of my dual WAN DI-LB604 router. With the Vonage service/ATA(s), I had to setup the router to only use only one WAN port for VoIP. I don't know if this is due to the hardware/firmware in the AT&T ATA (D-Link DVG-5102S), or to how the AT&T servers handle SIP and RTP traffic, but it was an unexpected pleasant surprise.

    The only operational downside so far is with the AT&T CallVantage voice mail. There is no way to disable it, and no matter how I setup the "Locate Me" function to forward unanswered calls to my cell phones, voice mail usually gets left with the AT&T CallVantage voice mail (which I have setup for the maximum 10 rings) instead of the AT&T Wireless voice mail. That means that the $5.00 per month discount will likely be eaten up by charges for the three text messages that get sent to the cell phones for each AT&T CallVantage voice mail.

    The only real problems were related to delays in porting the two phone numbers, and with canceling the two Vonage accounts (one of them is still active after several attempts to cancel), but neither of those problems are related to the AT&T CallVantage service.

    Update: 05/06/2009

    AT&T CallVantage no longer provides my telephone service because they are discontinuing the service. The official replacement U-verse Voice was not an available choice to me, so I ported one of the CallVantage numbers to a cell phone and dropped the other one. Thanks for reminding us how much you care for your customers AT&T.

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Review by rjspomer8 See Profile
UPDATED: 1.2 years ago
member for 4.6 years, 23 visits, last login: 1.2 years ago


Memphis,Shelby,TN
Contract price not specified.
"Dial out delay is about 4 seconds. quality was good."
"Terms and conditions, need to dial full ten digits, service sucks, features are antiquated"
"I hate using a company that puts you through a ringer just because they can and do not care."
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    Be careful services start in AT&T eyes is the date you requested it. So the fifteen day refundable grace period will be over by the time you can use their service.

    I requested service on the 7th of July and did not receive service until the 22nd of July. I then found that the features their sales person said would work with my system would in fact not work forcing me to find a provider that could. Sales said that I could use the click2dial in MS Outlook contacts. You have to use their web based contact book. Another annoyance is you will need to dial the full ten digits even for local numbers. The big kicker is their service will not work with my security system. Vontage does just fine. I do know the problems with VOIP and security I have an APC and other backups.

    I signed up with Vontage and on the 4th of August the AT&T line was disconnected. AT&T acknowledges these dates but claims service starts when a customer signs up and requests service not the actual date service provided date.

    Why would I disconnect my current service and use a service that can only be use to make calls. I do not think that not being able to receive calls is considered a telephone service. So my claim is my service started on the day that I was able make and receive calls and that was the 22nd of July.

    So the 60.00 I paid with my credit card for their start up was good for 12 days of service.

    Below is the email communications.

    Thank you for contacting AT&T Consumer Services.

    If you would like to reply to this message, hit the Reply button. To ensure that we receive all correspondence on your issue, do not change the contents in the Subject field.

    Dear XXXXXX,

    Thank you for contacting AT&T CallVantage(TM) Service.

    Your account was reviewed by a manager and the email you received was to inform you of their findings. No additional adjustments will be issued at this time. If you have any further questions/concerns, please contact us at 1 866 596 8464.

    Sincerely,

    Jason

    For answers to many common AT&T CallVantage(TM) Service technical issues, receive feature information and get specific account information access the following URL:

    »https://secure.callvantage.att.com/cvweb/home/

    Sign into your AT&T CallVantage Service account.

    --Original Message--

    Dear George

    I did not have service on 7-07-08. I signed up for service on that date with
    the understanding that my phone would be transferred over on the 22nd.
    Further my TA device was not sent out until the 12th of July and I received
    it on the 14th and called in to make the connection. I could still not
    receive calls until the line was ported about the 22nd.If you check your
    records this should be the date.

    Now as for you quoting me the law I understand. If that is the way AT&T
    wants to handle this I will be cancelling my DSL line and phone line at
    901-274-XXXX. I was really interest in having a dependable AT&T VOIP service
    and since it could not meet my requirements which included Click2cal,
    security system compatibility and the requirement of dialing the full ten
    digits. Which BTW were never mentioned to me by your sales team or on your
    website. I had to go to Vonage.

    Again if this the way you want to treat me then Goodbye to the other service
    I currently have.

    I will be waiting to hear back from you. If not then I will use my options.

    Sincerely,

    XXXXXXXXX

    -----Original Message-----
    From: callvantage_accountservice@att.net
    [mailto:callvantage_accountservice@att.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 4:48 PM
    To: XXXXX@XXX.com
    Subject: AT&T CallVantage(TM) Service [#1933602]

    Thank you for contacting AT&T Consumer Services.

    If you would like to reply to this message, hit the Reply button. To ensure
    that we receive all correspondence on your issue, do not change the contents
    in the Subject field.

    Dear XXXXX,

    Thank you for contacting AT&T CallVantage(TM) Service.
    Your request to have the billed charges for AT&T CallVantage(TM) Service
    telephone number 901-452-xxxx reviewed has been completed. Your claim is
    that these charges are to be removed due to you had difficulty with the
    service and the length of time you had service. You established this
    service on 7-07-08 and had the service moved to another carrier on 8-04-08.
    The length of time of service is 29 days. Per the AT&T CallVantage(TM)
    Service terms and conditions full adjustments are issued for service less
    than 15 days. Per the terms and conditions: "Where required by law in
    specific states, and subject to the requirements thereof, customers who
    cancel their service within the first three, five, seven, fifteen or other
    number of days specified by state law, as applicable, following acceptance
    of this Agreement, will be refunded all charges incurred with respect to
    their account"

    Also, per the terms and conditions 7.j. "No credit allowances for
    interruption of AT&T CallVantage Service. You acknowledge and agree that the
    Services are provided as is. Credit allowances for interruption of AT&T
    CallVantage Service, including international calling services, will not be
    provided"

    Based on these terms and conditions your request to have these charges
    removed has been denied. If you have any questions, please reply to this
    email.

    Sincerely,

    George

    For answers to many common AT&T CallVantage(TM) Service technical
    issues, receive feature information and get specific account information
    access the following URL:

    »https://secure.callvantage.att.com/cvweb/home/

    Sign into your AT&T CallVantage Service account.

    Followup comments:

    Larry P

    @optonline.net

    AT&T: Is it a surprise?

    Sorry to hear about your bad experiences.

    Unfortunately, is it really a surprise?

    This is a big, big company. That's a problem because:

    a) It's not that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Rather, the right hand does not even KNOW that there IS a left hand.

    b) Company is still adjusting after a boatload of mergers.

    c) Sorry to break this news, but this huge company does not need to worry about pleasing each individual consumer. They work the averages. If 3/4 of the people are 3/4 happy, that's good by them.

    What I am saying is, why not go to a company that WANTS and APPRECIATES your business---like CallCentric or many others.

    You would not buy a wedding dress at Sears. Why would you want to get VoIP from AT&T?

    Good luck.

    gdm
    Premium,MVM
    join:2001-06-15
    Mchenry, IL
    clubs:
    ·AT&T U-Verse
    ·AT&T CallVantage
    ·Comcast Digital Vo..
    ·Comcast

    Re: AT&T: Is it a surprise?

    That is one of the dumbest analogies I have heard.

    CV is actually pretty good compared to most. If you look that reviews on here it is pretty good. I can honestly say they are much better then Vonage. I have had no issues in the 5+ months I have had service.

    Do bad circumstances come up yes. Should they take care of the customer, yes. Do things fall through the crack, yes.

    No one company is going to be perfect customer service.
    rjspomer8

    join:2005-04-16
    Memphis, TN
    ·AT&T CallVantage

    Re: AT&T: Is it a surprise?

    Fall through the crack? Give me a break.

    AT&T has a good product agreed. Their customer service is so bad If I could I would give it a -10. Tell me about your great experience with getting to talk to a human. Tell me about how understanding they are or willing to let you talk to a supervisor. Tell me how they are so much better than Vonage. The problem is all services will have problems but the key is how they take care the problem. I have had experiences with all kinds of service like most people who use the internet and I must say the norm is getting bombarded with "how are we doing" emails. Did I get one of these from AT&T, no.

    So my response to you is wait until you have a problem.

    And as far as the dumbest analogies I think yours takes the cake. With your OH Well that just the way it goes attitude I bet people just walk all over you.

    gdm
    Premium,MVM
    join:2001-06-15
    Mchenry, IL
    clubs:
    ·AT&T U-Verse
    ·AT&T CallVantage
    ·Comcast Digital Vo..
    ·Comcast

    Re: AT&T: Is it a surprise?

    I have had a few issues with CV and it was related more to my U-Verse service and lack of QoS. I talked to CV a few times less then 5 minute hold times. Tier 1 had me try a few things and report back. I did and then got escalated to Tier2 where we did some extensive testing with my old setup. Tried a new setup and all is working. They were willing to do a conf. call with the U-Verse techs to get it figured out.

    Vonage took for ever on hold times when I had them 2 years ago. When I did get through I could barely understand who I was talking to. They never passed me up to Tier 2 or a supervisor. Instead I used the old dslreports email which worked better but took 24-48 hours for a response.

    Sorry but nope people don't walk all over me. Secondly as I was saying any large corporation has it's problems. The Call Vantage service is smaller then Vonage. The point Larry P was making that the left hand doesn't talk to the right doesn't really work for the CV side of ATT. Again from my experience compared to Vonage and others that are with CV. They do try to help out as much as possible and go beyond in some respects.

    Did you have a bad experience absolutely, should it have happened, no. Would things have been made better if the sales person did his/her job, yes. Sales people are sales people some are good and some bad (to me more on the bad side). That goes with any company big or small.

    Larry P

    @optonline.net

    said by gdm See Profile :

    That is one of the dumbest analogies I have heard.
    Hey, we're not in a political campaign here.

    In any event, I'm not sure that just being better than Vonage is enough.

    I have had the pleasure of dealing with outfits that truly appreciate their customers business----such as CallCentric, CallWithUs, and VoicePulse. Customer inquiries to these outfits are generally answered within MINUTES during daytime hours, and even in the evening they often are answered quickly. I have had prompt responses from all three of them even when I was not signed up as a current customer.

    Smaller companies like CallCentric can provide such an outstanding level of service. Isn't that better than a giant firm such as AT&T which has so many big business clients and which outsources or offshores so much of its support?

    Here's something else I don't get about AT&T CallVantage. Their single line plan is about $ 25 a month. Their 2-line plan is about $ 50 a month. In other words, NO discount. But it actually is even worse, because that second line does NOT come with unlimited minutes.

    So on AT&T CallVantage, if you want two lines, you'll do better with two separate accounts! Now THAT's what I call dumb.

    gdm
    Premium,MVM
    join:2001-06-15
    Mchenry, IL
    clubs:
    ·AT&T U-Verse
    ·AT&T CallVantage
    ·Comcast Digital Vo..
    ·Comcast

    Re: AT&T: Is it a surprise?

    I agree it's not the best service and neither is Vonage I will give you that for sure. I tried a small company a few years ago before Vonage and got burned. I stayed away from them since then. Could I try another sure but for me so far CV does what I need and I get a discount since I have ATT as my ISP.

    I do agree the 2 line plan is dumb pricing and unlimited point.

    Honestly I have a no problem reaching CV in the AM or PM. The latest I have called them is 8pm.
    Fisamo
    Premium
    join:2004-02-20
    Apex, NC
    ·VOIPo
    ·AT&T CallVantage

    Although T is a big company, the CallVantage unit operates somewhat independently, especially since CallVantage is a product of the pre-SBC company. Case in point: If you want to keep your number when switching from AT&T POTS, you still have to do a line port, and you will get POTS 'retention/return' incentive letters.

    As for the appreciation of the customer--here's where a big company mentality can be a hindrance. They have specific methods they follow for troubleshooting, and when you have a problem with a feature that's explicitly 'unsupported' (e.g. the reviewer's alarm system compatibility problems), you usually won't get much help. However, if you have a problem with the supported service and it's on their end, you can usually get a reasonably quick repair.

    I had thought CV offered a 30-day trial period, not 15 days--I'll have to doublecheck websites for that. If so, the reviewer should get his $$ back. In any case, it's reasonable for the reviewer to insist that the service start date be no earlier than the date he received the ATA.

    TransitMan
    Premium,MVM
    join:2000-09-05
    Dayton, OH
    clubs:

    Credit Card Payment

    Do a "Charge Back" on them.

    supergirl

    join:2007-03-20
    Pensacola, FL

    File a mail fraud complaint

    File a mail fraud complaint. AT&T will refund faster than you can curse their name.
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Review by craigsch See Profile
UPDATED: 1.3 years ago
member for 9.8 years, 1405 visits, last login: 1 days ago


Hermosa Beach,Los Angeles,CA
$19 per month
"Good quality when everything works"
"Tech support makes things up"
"Avoid, Avoid, Avoid"
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    My Other Reviews·Verizon FIOS
    I followed customer service’s advice and ordered CallVantage service with a new phone number so I could try it without risking my existing phone number from my landline. The TA came quickly and installed in minutes via my Verizon FIOS router. The call quality was great, and the extra features handy. I was so impressed that I requested that my existing landline number be transferred over.

    At that moment I was plunged into telephony Hell. The information I received during the transfer request didn’t sound right, so I called back and eventually called almost every day for 7 days (along with daily email exchanges). Every time I contacted them I got a different story.

    I finally discovered they initiated the phone number transfer, but had no intention of making it work! The TA they just sent me was not compatible with the new exchange (or so they say) and their solution was to shine me on until my phone was disconnected. I asked them about this point blank – and his answer was: “yes, but after it is disconnected, you can request your old phone company to re-connect”. Their customer service was incompetent at best, and unethical at worst. I only discovered what they were doing when I tried to cancel the service and telephone number transfer. They told me it was impossible to stop the transfer and I just needed to wait for my phone to be disconnected (later a supervisor said she would simply not complete the last step of the transfer).

    After groveling with my existing provider I was able to keep my phone number and existing service. I will NEVER attempt to use AT&T CallVantage again.

    4/16/08 Update - The service may have been cancelled, but the bills keep coming. No single mechanism to stop the bills.

    7/1/08 Update - After complaints to the credit card company, the FCC and the PUC and even after receiving an apology from AT&T Executive Appeals - they are still charging my credit card.

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Review by Mediocrates See Profile
UPDATED: 1.4 years ago
member for 1.4 years, 450 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Raleigh,Wake,NC
$28 per month (12 month contract)
"Cheaper than POTS"
"Too many to list"
"Call in an airstrike"
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    My Other Reviews·Sprint Mobile Broa..
    ·Vonage
    I was an MCI Neighborhood customer for years until April 30 2008. My wife declared she was sick of paying $75/month for a line. So we moved the home line to CV based on my own previous experience with CV for a business line at the home. We had two TA's one Centillium for the old line and a new D-Link DVG-5102S for the new line.

    It's been nothing but problems since May 1. The calls have been crossing over/misrouting to the wrong number. Outbound calls often fail to connect. Inbound calls are randomly being routed to the Safe Number for no reason. The line constantly broadcasts a voice mail dial tone regardless of whether there are messages or not. Call quality is poor, choppy. The TA often reports it's been powered down even when it's not which blocks outbound calls with that annoying 911 alert message.

    AT&T is sending me another TA for this line. I have my doubts and am seriously planning on moving back to MCI WHATEVER THE COST. I'm sure ATT will charge me an extra $50 to early out and MCI will charge me all sorts of start up charges plus the service costs 3x more than ATT. I don't care. ATT is that bad.

    The most bizarre thing of all is that as I said, I already have this service on another line and it's worked acceptably well. Not wonderfully but it's acceptable. My company pays those bills so I'm not exposed to the billing nonsense.

    Moreover my first bill was twice as high as I was lead to believe. They waived the first month bill and charged me 'shipping' for the first TA but they also charged a 'startup' charge and another charge which I can only describe as a 'request for startup'. Plus there are $3 dollars in incidental charges which may or may not taxes. They are probably junk fees.

    So in the final analysis, it's junk. Straight up junk. If it were free it wouldn't be worth it. Seriously. There is nothing on planet earth cheap enough to make me listen to a houseful of family members screaming at me for forcing this on them. Every day I hear grumbling and complaining about what junk this is. And at this point, it doesn't matter what the problem is, even if they call someone's cell phone and the other end drops out, CV had been so bad so far that it gets blamed.

    If that wasn't bad enough now ATT tells me that there's no way they can port the phone number they got from MCI back to MCI - well they can, sort of, but only for Long Distance. Apparently I am trapped forever in CV for local (only) service. I don't even know how that would work - use two different phones for the same # depending on whether it's long distance or local? That sounds insane.

    The problem with porting the number back to MCI seems to be MCI's problem.

    I have replaced my router and tweaked the ports, assigned a static IP and dumped it in the DMZ and it may or may not be functioning well now. I DO know the complaints have lessened. So perhaps there is hope on the horizon.

    6/20/2008:

    My home line was cancelled today. I have moved that homeline to Vonage. My business line, paid by my employer, is still AT&T CV.

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    Fisamo
    Premium
    join:2004-02-20
    Apex, NC
    ·VOIPo
    ·AT&T CallVantage


    1 edit

    Problems with ATTCV...

    Sorry to hear of your difficulties with the service. I've had it since Oct 2004, and I'm still a very satisfied customer. That said, I have never operated two SIP devices provisioned by ATT behind one public IP address. **PERHAPS** they can fix your issue if they can set one of your accounts to use a different default SIP port (e.g. 5061 instead of 5060) for Line 1 on one of the ATAs.

    Regarding porting your home number away... You should be able to port it wherever you want. You have to request the port to be done by the provider you're moving your number to, and don't ask ATT about it. You can confirm that the number's out of ATT's system after the port is complete. (In other words, it's up to MCI to be able (or not) to port your number back, not ATT.)

    ::Edit::
    I just saw your post in the forum indicating that MCI advised you they can't port. If you're completely soured on VoIP for your home line, your best bet is to port back to "BellSouth" (now, ironically, AT&T). Once that line is up and running, you should be able to port back to MCI, as long as MCI is still taking new customers for its local services in this area.
    :: /Edit ::

    BTW, you will not be charged a disconnect fee if you return your ATA within two weeks.

    PS: If this experience has not completely soured you on VoIP, you might consider a different provider, such as Vonage, Voicepulse, etc., or even TWC Digital Phone. If you're working with multiple providers, it might be better. Another factor to consider: If your ISP is cable, your neighborhood might be oversold, and you may not be able to practically support two lines.

    Best wishes in getting your service up and running to your satisfaction (whichever provider you choose). There's nothing worse than a WAF (or FAF--wife/family Approval Factor) in the toilet.
    erikthebean

    join:2007-06-25
    Manchester, NH
    ·Comcast
    ·MV Communications,..
    ·Voipgo
    ·callwithus
    ·Callcentric

    Ut Oh

    O boy well the reason they told you that you cant port back to mci is because mci no longer does local phone service....their customers were grandfathered in now they only do long distance since verizon bought them....id recommend viatalk or broadvoice
    pluskey
    Premium
    join:2003-07-09
    Columbia, MD

    Happy customer, but some suggestons for you

    I have been a CallVantage 2-line customer for almost 2 years now, and have been completely satisfied. That said, you clearly are not, so I offer some suggestions which may help you.

    First - inferring from your original post and some responses, it seems like you have two Telephone Adapters behind your router serviced by one public IP on the WAN side. That may be a problem, since they would fight for resources. Unless you need 3 or 4 lines, the problem may be solved by talking to a Callvantage human, explain the situation, and have them route (provision) the two lines in question to one TA, lines 1 and 2 respectively. I don't know if this is available, since it seems like your company is paying for one account and you are paying for the other, which may mean you have separate billing accounts which may confuse the situation.

    Here is one big point in favor of Callvantage, you can talk to a human, and they usually speak English. They also seem, in my experience, to be able to do more than apologize - they actually can help. That is not always available with other VOIP providers.

    If you need 3-4 lines, I know Callvantage offers that solution under their business VOIP offering. Maybe they can work out something for you using the business TA with your personal line, giving you two business lines and provisioning your personal line on the TA line 3 or 4. Again, a call to a human would be in order.

    If the above situation is not as described, next I would ask what your internet connection is like (DSL, Cable), speed, etc. If you have the cheapest available DSL, you may not have enough upload bandwidth to support more than one line. General rules of thumb I have read say that you should have 90Kb upload speed per line, which is probably very conservative and leaves you ample upload bandwidth for computer use.

    If you have cable internet, you may experience latency related problems, which usually appear as choppy voice quality. Since you don't describe this as a problem, I don't think it is an issue at this time.

    So there it is, free advice, worth every penny.
    Mediocrates

    join:2008-05-27
    Raleigh, NC

    Re: Happy customer, but some suggestons for you

    If by 'human' you mean machine, yeah.
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Review by sibyl9 See Profile
Posted: 2.1 years ago
member for 3 years, 38 visits, last login: 75 days ago


Easton,Fairfield,CT
$24 per month (month by month)
about 4 days
"Call quality compared to Sunrocket at the end."
"ADS! Went for my voicemail and had an ad dropped off! Wouldn't port my Sunrocket number."
"Don't go there. This is just a placeholder to move you back to ma bell."
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    My Other Reviews·Optimum Online
    ·BroadVoice
    I tried Callvantage with the idea they would be professional. Avoid them. They/ATT note that they could cancel voip at any time. Callvantage was too lazy to even try to port my number - said to call the ATT landline group. And to make things even more gross, picking up my voicemail got me Advertising! Ick. I don't want to hear anything other than my messages and sure as hell not some dumb ad. The Ads happened a couple of times. I contacted them and said no more. But, I am out of there anyway, as I want to be with a Telco that cares about me having my number.

    Their website is set up so you have to pass through all their ads to get to your account information, another negative.

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    NY Tel
    Premium
    join:2004-04-09
    Smithtown, NY

    What the @#$%& are you talking about?

    I have had CallVantage for 4 years and have never heard nor seen 1 advertisement for anything.
    mbowling

    join:2006-06-21

    Comment

    I have never experienced any form of advertising when using voicemail.

    PoitNarf

    @rr.com

    Ads?

    Never had ads, either in VM on the website.
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Review by videoeditman See Profile
Posted: 2.4 years ago
member for 2.4 years, 0 visits, last login: 2.4 years ago


Orlando,Orange,FL
$37 per month
"Website is nice, quality good most of the time"
"When quality is bad, it's really bad, router needs to reset often"
"Much better deals elsewhere"
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    The tech support is not very good. The misdiagnosed a problem for over 3 weeks. I have to reset my router about every 2 days or so. However, it's nice to get an American when I do need to call them.

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    pcnetworx1

    join:2005-09-21
    Bethel Park, PA

    Router question

    By router, you mean the ATA? Or yours. Which brands and models are they?

    cindy_209

    @mccd.edu

    gerr

    i seriously am fed up with their help ive been trying to get my internet fixed and they cant even just help me its been more than 3 weeks!!!
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Review by Lenagainster See Profile
UPDATED: 2.5 years ago
member for 4.8 years, 1405 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Silver Spring,Montgomery,MD
$32 per month
about 5 days
"Clear as a bell"
"Cancelling customers who don't qualify for E-911"
"Customer loyalty doesn't exist at ATT"
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    My Other Reviews·VoicePulse
    ·DIRECTV
    ·magicjack.com
    Update 4/29/07 After reading about ATT cancelling service for existing customers who don't qualify for E-911, I feel obliged to rescind my recommendation for CallVantage. The website does not clearly state that "if you do not qualify for E-911, you cannot become a CallVantage customer". It discusses alternate 911 services and the problems that may be associated with these services and disavows any liability for use of alternate 911 services. For that reason, I downgraded my rating of the website. It is incomprehensible to me that ATT would give so many long time customers the boot for not having E-911. The customers are aware of the limitations and agree not to hold ATT liable for any problems that arise in contacting emergency services. That decision by ATT to shed subscribers rather than risk lawsuits shows that they are more interested in the bottom line than serving their customers. For that reason, I lowered my rating of reliability of the service. Having changed phone services several times recently, I know what a PIA it is in switching over and porting one's number. By imposing this burden on so many of their customers, CallVantage is certainly no great value. How many of these displaced customers will lose their number due to porting issues? I've downgraded my rating for value. Please consider seriously ATT's lack of loyalty to their customers before choosing CallVantage.

    Update 2/4/07 The quality of AT&T's CallVantage service has been very good, but I was annoyed by the fact that I was limited to 20 blocked callers (even after paying an extra $2 per month for the service). Additionally, I had been reading a lot of reports about incompatibility with the CallVantage Telephone Adapter and the Actiontec router that is used when Verizon FiOS TV is installed. That started me looking at other VoIPs and I signed up with VoicePulse and was able to compare them side by side, which pointed out the minor shortcomings of CallVantage. VP seems to allow unlimited filtering, so I no longer had to keep a log of who I was blocking in order to delete older blocks to make room for newer ones. It seems that if one doesn't subscribe to CV's Call Filtering, then one cannot block incoming anonymous calls. CallVantage call logs do not show the duration of a call. While this may be unimportant with unlimited local and long distance service, I find myself wishing the information was there. With the opportunity to compare websites, I realized that logging in to my account on CallVantage's website was slow; I had to enter my passcode every time, and it took several annoying seconds for my account to show up. (My new VP online access is fast.) So while not degrading my rating for CallVantage due to these minor issues, I have found something better and have switched. (The CV TA/Actiontec router issue is not a problem for me since I don't intend to install Verizon TV.)

    ORIGINAL REVIEW

    I initially was looking at the packages with unlimited local calling and per minute long distance. Wasn't interested in a plan with limited minutes of local calling. CallVantage seemed to fit my needs best at $20 per month plus $2 for call filtering, total monthly bill with taxes about $27. The customer reviews for voice quality with CallVantage were very good (and that proved to be true for me).

    When I tried to 'port' my number from a local CLEC online, the application was denied, and a CS rep explained that AT&T does not have a porting agreement with that phone company. He suggested I port my number to Verizon, then to AT&T. I wanted to try out the service before committing my home number of 40 years to AT&T. So I signed up with another local number. Worked great from the get-go. As soon as the Telephone Adapter (TA) arrived, I plugged it in to the FIOS wireless router and after a brief automated setup, I could use the phone. (Some configurations suggest putting the TA between the router and modem so that the TA can channel enough of the bandwidth to provide high voice quality. But with that configuration, I could not access the Internet with my computer. At 5M/2M with FIOS, there was plenty of bandwidth when the TA was plugged in to the router. The TA typically needs 90K of bandwidth to operate.)

    Once my number was ported over to a Verizon landline, and then to AT&T, the copper line was dead and I could rewire the house, so I can use the house wiring for multiple phones. Before my service was shut off, I measured the voltage and polarity of the incoming landline and wrote it on the wall. As the instructions indicated, I disconnected the incoming wires (I have an old house, old installation, and the wires are easily accessible). I unplugged every phone and answering machine in the house. Plugged a telephone wire into the back of the TA and into the nearby telephone jack. Measured the voltage where all the lines come together and found that the POLARITY WAS REVERSED!!! The instructions say nothing about checking the polarity, or reversing leads on the jack that the TA plugs in to. I tediously reversed the red and green wires on the back of the jack that I was using for the TA, and rechecked the voltage and polarity at the junction of all the phone wires. Polarity correct. Plugged one phone in at a time, tested for a dial tone, and every one worked.

    It now appears that my VOIP phone is set up exactly as the landline was with a few differences. No need to dial 1. An occasional requirement to verify that I haven't moved the TA when the power goes out. A lot lower bill than even the most basic landline provides. And a ton of useful features that would cost an arm and a leg if purchased through Verizon's smorgasbord.

    For over two months, we have been using VOIP and have had none of the problems that I read about from other users. The voice quality is as good or better than a landline. We have had no problems making or receiving calls. No one has called us and said they tried our number and couldn't get through. There is hardly any difference between using the VOIP phone and a landline Obviously, the router must be kept on. The modem is always on and has a Verizon installed battery backup system, good for about ten hours without power.

    We lost power in a thunderstorm a few weeks ago for 23 hours. Calls were automatically forwarded to my cellphone. I shut down the battery backup for the router and computer, since our cordless phones didn't work anyway without power. The battery backup for the modem died after 10 hours. When power was restored, everything came back on normally with no resetting required.

    The only "issue" I had with the service is that in order to comply with the requirements of locating a VOIP phone for 911 is that every time the telephone adapter (TA) loses power, it notifies AT&T, and before the first call can be made after a power loss, I must endure an automated announcement to verify that I have not moved the TA. Unfortunately, the TA sends a power loss signal even if the power loss duration is less than a second. It would have been a more intelligent design if the power loss signal only happened when power was out for over a minute. Who could move and install the TA to a new location in under a minute? In an attempt to reduce the frequency of the power loss glitches, I purchased a small battery backup unit for just the TA, which seems to have fixed the problem, as we have not had the automated message since the backup was installed.

    Currently, there is a problem with the time that AT&T sends with the Caller ID information on an incoming call. In my case, I must add three hours to the indicated time. The call log on my account online shows the correct time of incoming and outgoing calls. Speed dialing through the AT&T system is impractical. To dial the number in speed dial location 9, for example, one must dial ATT9# That's FIVE keystrokes to dial a ten digit number. We use the speed dial provided on our cordless phones; quite a bit easier. AT&T provides speed dialing for only 9 phone numbers. Our cordless phones provide for 20.

    My experience with CallVantage so far has been very satisfying, and I have no regrets about giving up an expensive, spartan landline in favor of an inexpensive, feature packed broadband phone system. I was excited to learn that AT&T dropped the price of their unlimited local and long distance calling plan from $29.99 to $24.99. I signed up immediately. Even if we don't make enough calls every month to justify paying an extra $5 (125 minutes of LD), the idea of making any call any time any where without concern for the cost is well worth the fee.

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    ExtremeRFR

    join:2005-05-13
    West New York, NJ
    ·Verizon FIOS

    What happened?

    AT&T is canceling customers who's not on the 911 databases? That's new. So you still have Call Vantage or VoicePulse? Another thing, how is VoicePulse? Do you still get full Caller Id with name like CV? What about the call quality, is it good or better than CV? What features are included? Let me know ... thanks!
    Lenagainster

    join:2005-01-07
    Silver Spring, MD
    ·VoicePulse
    ·DIRECTV
    ·magicjack.com

    Re: What happened?

    Check out this thread on the VoIP forum:
    »[ATT CV] Suspended because of no E-911

    Yes, AT&T is sending cancellation notices to certain customers, effective 5/21.
    I have VoicePulse, very pleased with it. No, it does not transmit the name, just the number, a slight annoyance to some friends, but they are getting used to it. Call quality is the same, very good. More features, including 'unlimited filters' at no extra charge (CV wants $2 for 20). 99 speed dial vs. CV's 20 and easier to use; one or two digits followed by # rather than ATTxx#. Big difference is that one has a choice of what message to give blocked callers and I alway use 'not in service' tone and message. ATT has only one choice; 'this subscriber does not accept calls from this number' almost begging a telemarketer to just call from a different number. Paying VP $15.89 total for unlimited state-wide calling plus 200 min LD vs. $32.60 total for unlimited local and LD from CV.

    indyacnrep

    @comcast.net

    Send all of em my way

    I'm working for ACN and their VOIP works just fine and has great E911 service. If AT&T don't want em... WE DO!

    »boutwell.acnrep.com
    indyacnrep@gmail.com

    For more details.

    Slashdot reader

    @comcast.net

    Note for AT&T Customers

    I found it unfair that AT&T will not allow their VOIP customers to keep their phone numbers.

    However, there is a free new directory that allows them to be found by their old phone numbers. I hope it helps - www.lookmeup.org

    spike98905

    @verizon.net

    E911 related to satellite locating you for ads

    Most mobile fones now have GIS chips in them so that when you make a call, your location is recorded in foneco records along with the number you called and the conversation record. Now this is related to the '911 system' so that your location can be also relayed to the police if homeland security so desires. Lately it desires a lot! Now if 'E911' does not work right, then fonecos could be pressured to make sure it does or 'get out of the business'. I do not know if that is the case, but another possibility is that your location may be so part of the 'E911' ability that it is inseparable, like as part of the ASIC chip that contains the GIS feature on your cellfone. Thay may also mean that if the 'E911' feature is not working, then neither is the 'graphical location of you so you can be efficiently commercially exploited as you location is known and plottable as a function of time feature'. It is this last autolocation of you feature when you call or when your fone has power with either a public or hidden and undocumented battery..this feature that can make the telcos, like AT&T, money. And money indeed! Think of all the automatic billboards that can now 'see you' when you are in proximity. Having 'seen' you by 'hearing' and automatically computer internet checking your 'signal' and accessing your 'commercial profile and your credit rating, the sign then proceeds to hand you 'relevant advertising' as you pass by with eyesight of the 'smart sign'. If your credit is good, how about a 'new car'. If you are semi-wealthy, how about a condominium timeshare in Florida? ...and if your credit is bad, how about a 'bill consolidating loan' or a 'second mortgage'? Now if you are flagged as a deadbeat, then how about: "Pay up you bum" or some such? Of course if you are 'wanted' for some reason, then the same machinery can call the law for you so that you can be conveniently arrested at the next available intersection. Hey, Graphical Information Systems integrated into your fone are a 'trusted system' now....ARE'NT THEY?
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Review by voipuser4 See Profile
Posted: 2.7 years ago
member for 6.6 years, 79 visits, last login: 2.1 years ago


San Ramon,Contra Costa,CA
$24 per month
about 4 days
"Good call quality"
"Service was unreliable and very poor support"
"There are other providers out there who consider customers as more than a source of revenue for something that doesn't work."
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    I ordered on line and received the TA (D-Link DVG-1120M) in four days.

    Out of the box the TA wouldn't register. It took an hour working with at&t support to get the TA to register. I suspected a defective TA and asked why I had received the D-Link when they were using Centillium and if the unit could be switched. I was told Centillium TA’s were back ordered and the D-Link would only be replaced if I COULD PROVE it was defective. If it was replaced it probably would be another D-Link.

    Intermittently the TA would loose registration with the server. All the lights on the TA would show working, but test calls would go to voice mail instead of ringing the phone. Outgoing calls would go to dial tone. (Dial tone + dialing number = second dial tone instead of ringing) Sometimes the problem would be resolved if the TA was power cycled.

    Repair support is practically a joke. Five minutes of listening to IVR and punching buttons to reach a “live” person. Then all they could do is walk me through resetting the TA from a scripted aid. (Something I had already done several times prior to calling for assistance.) When that didn’t resolve the problem, I received the typical monopoly phone company response; the trouble is with your equipment.

    After multiple reports over 3-4 weeks, I was finally connected to the next level of support. That person informed me their service wouldn't work and if my Vonage service worked, I should cancel at&t CallVantage and keep Vonage, then hung up on me.

    I called back and was connected to a supervisor who told me he would work with their Tier 2 support and call me back. Five days later, no call. The next day I cancelled at&t CallVantage. An hour and a half after canceling, someone from at&t called to see how they could assist to resolve my service issues.

    Bottom Line: There are other providers out there who consider customers as more than a source of revenue for something that doesn't work.

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Review by volswagn See Profile
Posted: 2.8 years ago
member for 8.3 years, 43 visits, last login: 1.4 years ago


Farmingville,Suffolk,NY
$30 per month
about 15 days
"Call Quality, Price, Features"
"Customer Service, Some Features Lacking"
"Great if you don't have a problem"
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    My Other Reviews·Optimum Online
    A few months ago my family decided to finally take the total plunge and eliminate our POTS in favor of VoIP. At $75 a month for basic Verizon with regional calling, the $45 price difference was just too much to overlook each month. In the past we had tried Verizon VoiceWing, which had serious call quality issues (echoes, the "walkie-talkie" effect where only one party could talk at the same time) and the local cable company's offering, Optimum Voice. Neither were valid substitutes according to my wife and stepson, who do most of the phone-talking in the family.

    After doing my research, it seemed like AT&T had the best call quality according to most reviews, so after trying it out for a couple weeks, we finally switched our old POTS number over to AT&T and were very happy... For a few months...

    Eventually, the cost of the basic AT&T CallVantage plan dropped from $29.95 to $24.95 and I decided to use the AT&T account management settings online to change to the cheaper plan since no one had informed me about the price change. AT&T lets you change calling plans at any time (there are three - the normal plan, the international plan, and the local-only plan).

    Within an hour of doing this, I could no longer accept incoming calls. The phone would ring, and as soon as I clicked to answer, all I got was a dialtone. The calling party would just hear the line ringing. I called AT&T to speak with customer service and they took me through the basic troubleshooting (reboot the telephone adapter, etc.) and finally escalated my case. I was told I would get a call back the next day.

    It never happened. I had to call them, and after waiting on hold yet again for a while, I was finally brought to L2 tech support. They confirmed that the issue was with AT&T and not my adapter. I was told they would call me back after they had conducted some internal tests. During this time, my outgoing calling features stopped working, presumably because they had configured a telephone adapter at AT&T offices to "spoof" mine so they could help diagnose the problem.

    They did not call me back. I had to call them. In fact, I have had to call them several times on my cellphone because I am told each time that someone is looking into it, and I will definitely get a call back.

    It has now been two weeks since I have had a working phone. The only bright point out of all of this is that my account settings at AT&T still work, and I am able to forward my calls to my cellphone. However, I am now out of peak cell minutes, and my issue is still not resolved. I don't know how AT&T calls this acceptable. I have been pleasant with every person over there with whom I have spoken, and perhaps that's the problem.

    The local cable company set me up quickly with a new VoIP account with them, and I am now forwarding my AT&T calls to that number. AT&T meanwhile has my old POTS number, and I hope they will give it up when the cable company calls for it.

    It has now been four days since I have spoken to anyone at AT&T. I have a feeling they have just given up on me.

    So if you're thinking of AT&T CallVantage, think about how you will do without a phone for two weeks or longer if anything goes wrong. You might be fine, but you might not. Is it really worth it?

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