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$57 per month avg ($34 to $130)

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Review by Styvas See Profile
UPDATED: 1 days ago
member for 5.1 years, 2707 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Edmonton,AB
$40 per month
about 5 days
"decent speeds, reliable connection, free service calls"
"relatively expensive, data shaping may restricts certain network usage, bandwidth caps"
"because of limited competition Shaw is the only truly high-speed, decent quality game in town"
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    My Other Reviews·Primus Talkbroadband
    I use Shaw's High Speed package, which provides speeds up to 5Mbps down and 512Kbps up. The price without any bundles or special offers is $39.95 plus taxes. This can be reduced significantly if made a part of a bundle including Shaw's other services (regular and digital television). However, it is still significantly more expensive than either 3Web, Telus or Primus who also offer high speed service for $24.95 on average (however, Telus and Primus, being DSL, require a local telephone line which increases the price accordingly) and at least Telus requires a contract to guarantee their competitive pricing.

    Over the last few years I have used Shaw's service on and off (we've moved around a bit and have taken advantage of Telus deals from time to time). I have found my speeds recently to be fairly consistent without much fluctuation for time of day. I have not experienced a service outage since Shaw took over from Rogers a few years ago. This may just be luck.

    Install requires a service call (although it was free) and this took several days to book. However, the installation was smooth and service worked immediately without problems.

    The High Speed package inlcudes 2 dynamic IPs. I use another company's VoIP product with my Shaw service and it works more or less flawlessly (although I've recently noticed a bit of fluxuation in the quality--I'm still troubleshooting). I am not a heavy downloader via P2P software, so I have not suffered the kind of performance problems evident in the many posts on the Shaw forum (see threads on Ellacoya, BT Throttling, etc.). For those using these programs (particularly BitTorrent), Shaw's practice of data shaping would be a significant detractor to the service.

    Basically I am satified; however, I wish there were more competition to bring price pressure to bear on Shaw.

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Review by korupt See Profile
UPDATED: 31 days ago
member for 9.6 years, 4209 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Canada
$39 per month
about 5 days
"For the money to speed and service are great."
"minor growing pains with backbone upgrades - mail service could be better"
"over all the service is good, but the help desk can be a little overwhelming"
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Review by HempHog See Profile
Posted: 32 days ago
member for 5.6 years, 604 visits, last login: 16 days ago


Okotoks,AB
$50 per month (month by month)
about 4 days
"Extreme 3 months @ 30.00 a month"
"Gaming is impossible at night, servers during non-peak hours are usually 20-70ms, peak hours everything is 70ms plus."
"Terrible, I'm only getting one month of service."
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    Download / Upload speeds go to complete crap during peak hours, dido for gaming. At one time Shaw was a good choice, however I highly recommend against it now.

    Personally for gaming, or an all around good connection choice I would recommend Telus, at least you get what you pay for.

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Review by Mango See Profile
UPDATED: 35 days ago
member for 318 days, 443 visits, last login: a few hours ago


West Vancouver,BC
$130 per month
"Reliable, low packet loss, fast, no speed throttling."
"Techs are very often poorly trained and never admit a problem with Shaw."
"Shaw is a decent provider most of the time."
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    I can't make two reviews for Shaw, so I am going to write my review for both internet and phone here.

    INTERNET:

    I have been using Shaw's Internet Services since they were available in the Vancouver area. I have found Shaw's internet to be very reliable. I remember the days of Rogers Cable where an outage every few days was common. With Shaw, I might have an outage a year, if I'm unlucky. At my office, we've only had one outage in three and a half years, and it was scheduled, AND service was restored two hours before they said it would be. That's not bad. Ping tests show average packet loss to be less than 0.1% which is also very good.

    Although I have heard that Shaw employs severe torrent throttling, I have not experienced this. I have always been able to download at or very near advertised speed, including when I use Xtreme-I. The VoIP issues that anonymice is referring to below have been resolved. They just...went away on their own after a few calls to tech support. It would be good to hear a clear, concise "yes, five other people called about the same issue so we fixed it" but at least it's now working.

    The only issue I have is with Shaw's technical support. Fortunately, the connection is reliable enough that I rarely need to call them. I have called them enough times that I know the standard troubleshooting - power off the modem for one minute, remove any coax splitters or extensions, bypass any router or switch and connect the computer directly to the modem, and temporarily disable any software firewalls and virus scanners. Sometimes, the techs want to walk me through all this again, which is annoying, but I understand the reason why they need to do it. But then even when this doesn't help, they refuse to admit Shaw might be having an issue. Or, they claim they've "never seen this before" - I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard that phrase. Has every single tech I've ever spoken with been a newbie?

    One incident that stands out was a "tech" who went so far as to to claim that the 10% packet loss and 200ms average latency to the first hop I was seeing (try making a VoIP call with that!) was "within standard operation of the internet connection" and that the connection was "really only designed for things like browsing and email and not intended for VoIP." Then he told me to call back in 24 hours if I was still experiencing the issue. (In case you didn't get that, first he called it standard operation and then called it an issue.) The issue was solved the next day with no interaction on my part.

    Some of Shaw's reps have little to no training before being placed on the phones. I canceled Shaw's internet service because I switched to TekSavvy. The rep I spoke with told me I should stay with Shaw because it was cheaper. I told them I was paying $49 for TekSavvy and a comparable plan from Shaw (I needed 1Mbit upstream) would be $60. "Uh...uh...nuh-uh!" countered the rep firmly, in a startling display of wit and intelligence. "Uh-huh," I said, not knowing what else to say. He canceled my account.

    My only stellar experience with Shaw's tech support was when troubleshooting my sister's internet connection in Alberta. I did all the troubleshooting I could think of and outlined everything I had done to one of their reps. The total phone call was less than two minutes and I had a truck at my house inside 24 hours. The tech spent about 15 minutes solving the problem, which was a bad connection up the pole.

    PHONE:

    I like Shaw Digital Phone a lot. Shaw Digital Phone is an implementation of VoIP that is run over Shaw's private network, separate from the Internet. Shaw's reps actively deny that their service is VoIP - I suspect they want to differentiate themselves from providers of broadband VoIP. Actually, in my opinion, Shaw Digital Phone is a textbook example of how VoIP SHOULD be implemented. Because it doesn't run over the Internet, issues caused by latency, bandwidth sharing, and internet outages are entirely eliminated.

    As far as calling features go, Shaw provides basic features, but have been taking their time on implementing the more exotic ones. In August 2009 I finally had my install with multi-line hunting. I was the first customer in British Columbia to use this. I was excited to discover (because they oddly don't advertise this) that I not only have multi-line hunting but call queuing! This is a clear advantage over Telus that I think they should publicize. As of September 2009, some of their techs still do not know about these features. Sometimes, I have to explain it when I call.

    Shaw installed an Arris modem at my premises. I read reviews saying that these modems perform fantastically well, and I agree. When Shaw first rolled out their phone service, they deployed Motorola modems. Unfortunately, the performance of these were apparently less than stellar and caused a rocky start and bad PR for Shaw. But the good news is that if you've been trying to decide whether or not to switch to Shaw Digital Phone, now's the time.

    Much to my amusement, installation required two techs - one to connect the phone line and one to connect the cable line. I was not impressed with the phone tech. At first he insisted on disconnecting the Telus line in the basement. When I refused to let him in the wiring closet, (at this point I had no idea how well I'd like SDP and wanted the Telus line available if I decided to switch back) he then said he was going to "cut the line in the suite back so far no one will ever be able to reattach it." The line was already disconnected, but he wanted to make it impossible for Telus to reconnect it. Not happening. After installation, the line wouldn't ring, which the tech immediately blamed on my PBX. I told him he should plug in his line tester and see if it would ring. He apparently decided my PBX was not the problem after all because he didn't even try his line tester; he made a call to someone at Shaw who solved the problem.

    When I decided to order three more lines, the installation was even more eventful. I received three separate calls from three different people at Shaw asking 1) if I was a PBX tech, which they asked already, 2) if I was over 18, which they also asked already, and 3) if I remembered about my appointment, which I did, because I had been called two other times about it.

    The installation of the additional three lines required five technicians. I find this humorous because I actually offered to do it myself to save them rolling a truck. The first two arrived the day after I placed my order and dropped off the modem. I asked them what they were going to do, because the number port had not yet been completed. They said they didn't know and left the modem sitting on my desk. Two techs arrived two days later, on my day off, and without making an appointment. They patiently waited while one of the staff located me. They installed the new 4-port modem that the previous techs had dropped off. Finally, a single (!!) tech arrived on the actual installation date to plug in the three necessary cables, and call in the number port. I sincerely hope after watching this display of convoluted miscoordination that Shaw is actually making money.

    I decided to downgrade one of our lines to a cheaper package. This is easier said than done. For reasons known only to Shaw, the modem must be provisioned in order of the price of the line. Unfortunately, the line I wanted to downgrade was Line 1. So they had to reprovision my modem so that Line 2 was moved to Line 1, Line 3 to Line 2, Line 4 to Line 3, and Line 1 to Line 4. I am not making this up. They told me this would take two hours. I scheduled the appointment for 8AM because we open at 10. They finished around 1PM, during which our phones dropped more calls than a bad cell. For some reason this broke my Caller ID. Fixing this will involve another "two hours" of downtime. This will be sometime in the next 24 to 48 hours. I find it amusing that I still find Shaw less frustrating than Telus.

    Fortunately, the installation has been the only annoying bit - Shaw Digital Phone has performed wonderfully. We've had no downtime at all, other than the above-mentioned Shaw-induced downtime. After a few calls, I found myself thinking that the audio quality was better. I hooked up some test equipment and discovered I was correct - on the Shaw line, much higher frequencies were apparent. Audio quality is not quite as good as Telus when speaking with someone on a cell phone. The volume with Shaw Digital Phone is louder than Telus and causes cell audio to be slightly distorted. This is not a huge issue, but one I hope they correct at some point.

    I have tried faxing with Shaw Digital Phone and discovered that I did not need to set my fax to 9600bps as recommended - 14400 worked flawlessly. This is also positive.

    If you can deal with random acts of frustration when dealing with Shaw's staff in exchange for a cheap phone line, Shaw Digital Phone is a good choice for you. The price is great, especially for residential users. My parents have Shaw Internet and if they switch to Shaw Digital Phone (and I think they should) it will add exactly $9 to their monthly bill due to bundling. At these prices, Shaw is competing with broadband VoIP.

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    re: voip

    I use a sip trunking service for my house phone and an asterisk box. My phone calls are clear and generally great unless I've got my connection saturated with downloads and traffic. Have you tried setting up a real QoS setup with your system, weighting your voip packets higher than your other packets, or just pausing downloads when you're on the phone? Generally if you do these things, or throttle your other bandwidth so your voip packets always have a little room (my voip setup is 24kB/sec up and down during a call) keeping in mind your network overhead, you should never have any issues with calls.
    Mango
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    join:2008-12-25
    Vancouver, BC
    ·Shaw
    ·voip.ms
    ·Callcentric
    ·LINGO
    ·Netfone
    ·Digital Voice

    Re: voip

    Good to hear you've been having positive experiences. If you do not mind me asking, what city are you in?

    I did use QoS on my routers, which worked well in West Vancouver - I could even run torrents without having any voice quality issues. In the other locations, I noticed quality issues even when the VoIP device was the only device on the network.
    MJScott

    join:2009-03-04

    distinctive ring

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    Another thing I noticed is that while Shaw supports distinctive ring, you cannot turn off Voicemail for the distinctive ring number. This means you can't use it for a fax. Telus does support this.

    you may want to call into tech support for that, as far as i know this has been doable for a very long time. I quite often see customer service improperly setting up DR lines that people want to use for faxing and it only take a few second to configure it properly on Shaw's side.
    Mango
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    2 edits

    Re: distinctive ring

    Interesting. It was Tech Support who told me it couldn't be done. Do you work for Shaw, or are you a customer who has done this?

    Thanks for the information.

    Edit: Any idea what strings I can pull to get overlines with the same outgoing Caller ID?
    MJScott

    join:2009-03-04

    Re: distinctive ring

    I worked in Shaw tech support for quite sometime, and more specifiably i was a dedicated phone agent. Its definitely possible to turn those settings off..

    and as for the overlines caller id.. im not touching that with a 10 foot pole haha
    Mango
    toao.net

    join:2008-12-25
    Vancouver, BC

    Re: distinctive ring

    Oh really? Do I detect some gossip?
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Review by curriegrad04 See Profile
Posted: 55 days ago
member for 55 days, 13 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Richmond,BC
$35 per month
about 5 days
"Fast, consistent connection. Tech Support is actually being handled in Canada."
"Increases the price on you slowly..."
"Expensive, but much more usable."
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    My Other Reviews·TELUS
    Ordered Shaw High Speed 4 years ago. Been satisfied with their service for 3.5 years up until Mid-August.

    Tech Support actually resolves most of my issues that's on their side and never blames the customer for being the idiot for quite a while until last year when there were apparent issues with their side.

    For speed, it's quite consistent throughout the day to be honest. I've never gotten latency during peak hours when everybody's on the Internet. Seems like they've balanced out the bandwidth evenly in my area. Can't say for other areas, but mine seems fine... Up until now. Recently, the internet slows down during peak hours and I've actually restarted my ISA 2006 services to root out the issue if ISA 2006 was having issues or not. I've even run loopback tests to confirm that ISA 2006 wasn't the issue. Seems like right now that Shaw is oversubscribing customers in my area.

    Pricing wise, was quite reasonable for 3 years until now. They've jacked up the price to $35 per month while other providers can provide the same speed and bandwidth limit at a lower price.

    For equipment wise, they've supplied me a Motorola SB5101 modem which served me quite well for some time.

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Review by AceyDeucy See Profile
UPDATED: 55 days ago
member for 8.3 years, 1059 visits, last login: a few hours ago


P6A5
$37 per month
about 1 days
"Reliable,Fast,Friendly Service."
"Degredation in speed since implementation of extreeme 1"
"Where's our SPEED?"
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    Shaw recently doubled the D/L speed and also included SPEEDBURST.
    That sounds great to most people, however it was too fast for my Belkin Wireless G router and my laptop to handle.
    I went out and got a new Belkin Wireless N Router plus a Belkin USB Wireless N for my laptop which seemed to fix the problem...I now connect at 150Mbs/sec.

    Shaw has always been the fastest cable internet connection in Sault Ste. Marie and if bundled with basic TV cable is reasonably priced. I have yet to be advised of any over-usage even though I do a fair amount of downloading and uploading

    I have NEVER had any trouble with tech support who have always been pleasant, helpful, and prompt in helping me with any difficulties which might arise.

    Happy Camper.
    .

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    join:2001-07-17
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    New Modem



    I called Shaw to advise about the slow cable and next morning they sent a technician with a new modem and now my speed is very fast once again.
    I have always been very happy with Shaw Service.
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Review by Big Burly Al See Profile
Posted: 78 days ago
member for 78 days, 0 visits, last login: 78 days ago


Winnipeg,MB
Business customer
$93 per month
about 1 days
"Fastest connection available. Best sevice and value for your money."
"Some dropouts at peak periods, but very few and in between."
"Would recommend this service hands down!"
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    They installed Motorola equipment. The time between order and install was next day service. I ordered the High Speed package @ $29.00/mth for the first 6 months. This included telephone and cable. After 6 months my bill was still only $93.00/mth. Service is very fast and efficient.

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Review by invictive See Profile
UPDATED: 84 days ago
member for 7.9 years, 702 visits, last login: 1 days ago


Saanichton,BC
$58 per month
about 5 days
"Fast reliable speed"
"Some throttling"
"Very reliable fast connection, some throttling but not noticeable unless you are a heavy downloader"
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    I signed up for Shaw's 10mb package in my new apartment and the installer showed up 5 days later (on time). Installer was very knowledgeable and helpful and had everything setup and running in minutes.

    The speed is very reliable at 1.1mb/s download speed. There is occasionally some throttling during peak hours (maybe 2 or 3 times a week for a few hours). Shaw's throttling is nothing like Bell's. The throttling only seems to be when the node is busy (Thursday and Friday nights) and only on certain protocols (ftp). I have not tried torrenting on the connection.

    I am very happy with the connection and have had 100% percent uptime since signing up 5 months ago.

    The package has a cap of 100gb/month but I have not been penalized for going over... yet...

    There is supposedly Power Boost enabled on my connection, it worked fine for the first couple of months, but stopped working after that. My installer told me it would only be enabled when there was spare headroom on the node. I have no reason to complain though because all of my downloads are fast and Power Boost wasn't the reason I signed up.

    Have never had any reason to deal with tech support.

    UPDATE:

    I moved a few months ago and getting service hooked up at my new place was as simple as a quick call to support and a tech showed up the next day to do the install. The 10Mbps package I used to have has now been upgraded to 15Mbps at no extra charge, and Powerboost seems to be working (I mean really working!) Download speeds for small files are around 3MB/s and large files hover around 1.8-1.9 MB/s. I do not download torrents from home (thats what seedboxes are for) but I have noticed that individual FTP transfers are throttled to about 350KB/s. This can be overcome by running multiple FTP transfers. However I usually use SFTP which is not throttled and I can usually pull a steady 1.9MB/s.

    The cap on my connection is 100GB/Month, however I usually use 200GB/Month and have not had to pay any overage charges yet.

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Review by tallguy11 See Profile
UPDATED: 85 days ago
member for 7.7 years, 1163 visits, last login: a few hours ago


Edmonton,AB
$34 per month
"awesome speeds, great service, no downtime, great price"
"none"
"great ISP"
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    My Other Reviews·TELUS
    i ordered the shaw high speed package, at 34.95 and free install, instalation only took 30 min. it is a dynamic IP but mine hasn't changed in over 6 months.

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Review by jrsaysbiteme See Profile
UPDATED: 99 days ago
member for 4.1 years, 479 visits, last login: 3 days ago


Fort Frances,ON
$50 per month
"Fast internet, great support, no contracts"
"Good bang for my dollar"
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    My Other Reviews·Bell Sympatico
    Friendly techs and very knowledgeable. All in all its very good internet for a small town. Im satisfied with the price and quality of service.

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